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Well I thought it was significantly cheaper , but it isn't . Your point :D But you have to keep in mind that the igpu version much cooler and maybe a bit more quiet is , due to another fan
Yeah.. True. I don't know what to do now :(
 
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Even if the 512 gb doesnt come stock, I really hope they lower the prices of their SSDs. I dont understand how a 1tb ssd can cost $800 more than a 512 gb
 
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Even the 2016 rMB (the thin one with no fan) I tried out in May could do Handbrake encodes up to 4 times quicker than my 2010 MBP.

I don't know how quickly you want Handbrake to run but the 13" will be more than capable and if you're going for a 15" it'll be an absolute breeze.

So you think the 15" base model with the 2.2ghz quad core processor with 16GB ram will be more than ample for my needs?
 
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Even if the 512 gb doesnt come stock, I really hope they lower the prices of their SSDs. I dont understand how a 1tb ssd can cost $800 more than a 512 gb
Profit margins. They need a competitive entry price, because most sales are base model.

All BTO, including adapters are pure profit. Apple did it for years with RAM.
 
So I have a copy of parallel 10 or something that I got from BH Photos awhile ago free as part of a purchase of I forgot what. Should I install boot camp on the macbook instead of this? Is bootcamp better?
Paralells does not currently work with sierra, if your plan on keeping your os updated, don't use paralells (since it won't work with new updates right away). If using windows applications at the same time as your mac applications is a must, then you have to go with it since you boot into bootcamp (you run it natively).

If performance is an issue you can't really compare paralells with boot camp since it runs natively like i said before, you're not emulating windows with boot camp, you're running it.
 
Even if the 512 gb doesnt come stock, I really hope they lower the prices of their SSDs. I dont understand how a 1tb ssd can cost $800 more than a 512 gb
Absolutely, that's crazy. I hope I can get 32Gb RAM and 1TB ssd for a decent price (less than 3000€)
 
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Paralells does not currently work with sierra, if your plan on keeping your os updated, don't use paralells (since it won't work with new updates right away). If using windows applications at the same time as your mac applications is a must, then you have to go with it since you boot into bootcamp (you run it natively).

If performance is an issue you can't really compare paralells with boot camp since it runs natively like i said before, you're not emulating windows with boot camp, you're running it.

They claim it does.

http://www.parallels.com/upgradepd12/
 
Paralells does not currently work with sierra, if your plan on keeping your os updated, don't use paralells (since it won't work with new updates right away). If using windows applications at the same time as your mac applications is a must, then you have to go with it since you boot into bootcamp (you run it natively).

If performance is an issue you can't really compare paralells with boot camp since it runs natively like i said before, you're not emulating windows with boot camp, you're running it.
What kind of issues do you have?
Works fine for me. No problems with Sierra + Parallels
 
Not what I want to hear! Isn't the new MBP 15" going to have the capable Skylake GT4e Iris Pro? I don't mind having to wait an hour or two for a 4K VBR encode.

Why are you against getting the dGPU? I mean in that case you get both the iGPU and the dGPU so you're not missing anything and looking at past models you can switch off the dGPU to save battery. So there is absolutely no downside to getting it.
My 2010 MBP can't run even Netflix anymore without using the dGPU. This shows how much a dGPU can extend the useful life of a machine in addition to the benefits of having a faster machine to begin with.
 
I had a dream that MacRumours had Superskylake coming out in Late 2016 on the front page right side.
 
Why are you against getting the dGPU? I mean in that case you get both the iGPU and the dGPU so you're not missing anything and looking at past models you can switch off the dGPU to save battery. So there is absolutely no downside to getting it.
My 2010 MBP can't run even Netflix anymore without using the dGPU. This shows how much a dGPU can extend the useful life of a machine in addition to the benefits of having a faster machine to begin with.
Well, someone before said that the one with iGPU has one more fan? So it's way cooler.
 
That's what I was wondering: how many of the 15" folks would be getting a 17" if it were offered? Let's say, with 32 GB of RAM and a 4K screen?

I probably wouldn't, as enticing as it sounds, because it would cross the line into not being portable enough. 15" is a perfect balance between desktop replacement and portability.

I would buy a 16" or 17" macbook pro in a heartbeat. Really, one of those larger screen laptops doesn't really have to have a bigger footprint if they implement the same bezels as the ones on the Dell XPS.
 
Well, someone before said that the one with iGPU has one more fan? So it's way cooler.
I thinks he meant that the iGPU model has one less fan which reduces the fan noise. I still think it will run cooler beacause the dGPU heats up a lot.
 
I would buy a 16" or 17" macbook pro in a heartbeat. Really, one of those larger screen laptops doesn't really have to have a bigger footprint if they implement the same bezels as the ones on the Dell XPS.

unfortunately Jony Ive is in love with the large bezels. We could have larger screens for years or smaller footprints. But he thinks there is a perfect balance between the bezel and the screen size. This guy will eventually ruin apple by making less and less useful devices......
 
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Not what I want to hear! Isn't the new MBP 15" going to have the capable Skylake GT4e Iris Pro? I don't mind having to wait an hour or two for a 4K VBR encode.

I have no idea honestly. Has GT4e been compared to current dGPUs?, is it any good?

Look, you'll be fine with the iGPU, as long as you can wait longer for encodes.

the Syklake GT4e iGPU is actually faster than the current dedicated GPU in the 15" rMBP. Assuming the new 15" is the same 2880x1800 resolution, that will be plenty fast for the vast majority of people. Even if the screen resolutions are upgraded to 4K, that's only 18% more pixels than the current screen. The dedicated is nice if you play games but for most video encoding, photo editing, and youtubing, the integrated is probably the way to go.

You don't have to deal with the system hangs and application crashes when the integrated swaps over to dedicated. Not to mention, the additional power drain when the dedicated kicks in.
 
So you think the 15" base model with the 2.2ghz quad core processor with 16GB ram will be more than ample for my needs?

I mean I don't know your specific needs, but I was pleasantly surprised with the efficiency of the dual core i5 13" from 2015, handled 1080p encoding very well. A 2016 quad core i7 with 16GB RAM would blitz that.
 
I would buy a 16" or 17" macbook pro in a heartbeat. Really, one of those larger screen laptops doesn't really have to have a bigger footprint if they implement the same bezels as the ones on the Dell XPS.

unfortunately Jony Ive is in love with the large bezels. We could have larger screens for years or smaller footprints. But he thinks there is a perfect balance between the bezel and the screen size. This guy will eventually ruin apple by making less and less useful devices......

The webcam on the XPS is gimped because the bezels are so thin. The epitome of less useful.
 
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Why are you against getting the dGPU? I mean in that case you get both the iGPU and the dGPU so you're not missing anything and looking at past models you can switch off the dGPU to save battery. So there is absolutely no downside to getting it.
My 2010 MBP can't run even Netflix anymore without using the dGPU. This shows how much a dGPU can extend the useful life of a machine in addition to the benefits of having a faster machine to begin with.

Look, if there's a way in the OS where you can permanently kill the dedicated GPU then I'd be all for buying a dGPU model. However, the only options are 100% dGPU or Automatic switching. There's no OFF option.

In the automatic setting, you can be sitting on mac rumors or reddit and you get a small screen shudder and blip with the popup from gfxstatus that says the the dedicated GPU just kicked on randomly. Or when you're using youtube or some video player and the dGPU disengages and re engages and that kills the video?

I've had multiple dGPU MBPs and this is the first time the iGPU is going to be fast enough for my needs. I plan on buying a base rMBP with iGPU and upgrading to 1TB SSD and 32GB ram if that's an option.
 
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