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What if Apple goes for a separate Mac oriented presentation after the March event in say April or May? OK, it gets quite close to WWDC but they have had events close to each other in the past (i.e. iPhone presentations in September followed by Mac presentations in October).

Since pretty much the entire Mac line needs updating, it would be viable to hold a dedicated event. And that leaves WWDC open to talk about software (e.g. new iOS, OSX etc).

As someone else mentioned, it's also odd that ARK shows the relevant Intel processors as now being in the availability stage. Surely this means they are now in production?
 
I just set up a configured order for macbook pro retina 13" and it says fastest date feb 16- feb 17, fastest shipping. They're slipping. Of course I didn't order it though!


Actually, I just compared both MacBook Pro 13 and 15 to an iMac, and the MacBook Pro indeed has longer shipping time when compared to the iMac (which is also assembled in China).

Edit: Actually, both MacBook Pro 13 and 15, 12 inch MacBook and MacBook Air 11 and 13 show increased shipping times. I don't know what that means as the iMac doesn't.
 
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Actually, I just compared both MacBook Pro 13 and 15 to an iMac, and the MacBook Pro indeed has longer shipping time when compared to the iMac (which is also assembled in China).

Edit: Actually, both MacBook Pro 13 and 15, 12 inch MacBook and MacBook Air 11 and 13 show increased shipping times. I don't know what that means as the iMac doesn't.
Thought they can do custom build iMacs at California facility.
 
I'm in dire need for an upgrade, and the next iteration of MBP will be it for me.

Gonna need to follow this thread with tempered expectations for March...
 
Apple's only US manufacturing is the assembly of the Mac Pro in the good state of Texas. No coincidence that's the home of their top notch repair center.
 
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What if Apple goes for a separate Mac oriented presentation after the March event in say April or May?
The question is, how much stage time the other rumored introductions would need/get:
  • New Apple watch bands: couple of minutes.
  • iPad Air 3: 15 minutes.
  • iOS9.3: another 10 minutes.
  • iPhone 5se: yet another 10 minutes.
In total maybe one hour for iOS-related things. So even with some fillers (music acts etc.) there should be sufficient room for extensive Mac coverage. Assuming that it will be a "typical" 2 hour event.

Of course, without a redesign (just a CPU/GPU-drop-in update, as someone mentioned) we might also just get a press release for the Macs and another boring keynote with topics being stretched endlessly with empty babbling to get to the 2 hours. I'd guess they would be able to dedicate nearly 10 minutes to that Nightshift (edit: just when I was about to click the "Reply" button, "Nightshift" from the Commodores is playing on the radio :cool:) feature only, if they are really running out of topics. Scary thought ...

Since pretty much the entire Mac line needs updating, it would be viable to hold a dedicated event. And that leaves WWDC open to talk about software (e.g. new iOS, OSX etc).
Over the last years Apple have become infamous for having a _very_ thick thin when it comes to updates to their Mac line of products. Mac mini and Mac Pro immediately come to mind. And hardware introductions at WWDC are far from being uncommon iirc.
If we don't see new Macs in March, this could hint at only two possibilities: Either they lost their focus with all that iOS hype - or their focus is laser-sharp, just unfortunately not on the Macs, but on things like an AppleCar or Apple-VirtualReality.
To borrow from Arthur C. Clarke: Both options would be equally alarming.
 
im pretty hopeful for march for at least a refresh. there was that rumor that watches weren't going to be updated. and a june update (for the 13" atleast) would be well over 400days between updates. but regardless of whenever it is, it can't come soon enough. this obsession makes me so unproductive

my latest theory is that those ipad air 3 leaks were actually apple's answer to surface books lol. everyone thought the surface book was just a 14" model of the surface pro because no one leaked the keyboard
 
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And when kaby lake MBP are expected to be released? march 2017?
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there is a legal weed in amsterdam, it that the reason you been there? :)

By the rate of intel manufacturing things, somewhere in the first half of 2017?

I live in the Netherlands, where the sale of Marijuana is legal in the whole country. But I don't smoke, and most of the population doesn't either.
 
With iPhone sales at the edge of the recession and iPada being battered by cheap laptops would be and entire disaster for Apple stocks to focus on the iPhone and iPad leaving unattended the original Apple product the Mac which is the only (besides the much updated and promoted iPhone) product with solid market basis but not as solid as to wait for ever when competition aggressively updates their products, specially things as the Microsoft Surface Pro is seeing ex- Mac users among its new adopters seduced by all its innovation.

When we will have just updated internals on a reasonable time frame from its announcement? Just not to mention things like an Pencil enabled screen or an macbook convertible to tablet, or an powerful iMac.

The big problem at Apple is the iPhone comfort zone where their employees like to live while forget from where they comes.
 
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do you guys know if rMBP 13" will ever get a dedicated gpu? I need one for architecture school and using revit but prefer the 13" over the 15" and need a gpu.
 
do you guys know if rMBP 13" will ever get a dedicated gpu? I need one for architecture school and using revit but prefer the 13" over the 15" and need a gpu.
There is consistent rumor on the whole macbook pro line will lack dGPU (discrete gpu as nvidia or AMD, all have dedicated/integrated gpu as intel Iris Pro).

But the new iris Graphics seems competitive at low range, but also u could b capable to plug an external gpu thru thunderbolt 3 on either model.
 
do you guys know if rMBP 13" will ever get a dedicated gpu? I need one for architecture school and using revit but prefer the 13" over the 15" and need a gpu.
It is highly unlikely. If you really need a dGPU, I would not hold on to hope the 13" will have it.
 
do you guys know if rMBP 13" will ever get a dedicated gpu? I need one for architecture school and using revit but prefer the 13" over the 15" and need a gpu.

It won't. There isn't a DGPU available that would fit within the TDP design of the 13".
Even if there was, thermal constraints would make the integrated Iris graphics equal or more powerful.
For architecture, I'd imagine the upcoming 13" would be more than sufficient.
If you want comparable performance, look at the MIcrosoft Surface Book with dedicated GPU. The new 13" macbook should be roughly equivalent in terms of GPU performance.
 
Almost all Macs are outdated
Apple should really wake up.
If you look at the iMac, it's not so bad. That one could use a desktop Skylake CPU and Intel had these available much sooner. But for the rest of the product range, it's quite bad.

Recently I started a project with a client that doesn't supply me with their own hardware so I've been looking to buy something Mac-like. And this bizarre situation is the only reason I've been eyeing the iMac.
 
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