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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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We are not even sure when will Broadwell be included in rMBP and here we are talking about Skywell ! Should threads like this not be locked !! 
because we are talking about some extreme speculation here, which is like after 2 iterations !! what and how much sense does it makes on speculating a product after 2 iterations ?
because we are talking about some extreme speculation here, which is like after 2 iterations !! what and how much sense does it makes on speculating a product after 2 iterations ?It isn't a technical reason. It's a marketing reason. Apple has effectively crippled the smaller screened notebooks since the 12" Powerbook was released almost a decade ago. Lower quality screens, slower parts, less ports and slower processors are the norm, despite what other manufacturers have shown can be done. Not being able to buy a premium small notebook was the reason I switched to a Vaio a few years ago.
Get ready for another switch next time you buy.
I agreed. The only reason why the 13'' doesn't include a quad core processor is pure marketing.
According to this article Broadwell and Skylake may coexist: http://www.kitguru.net/components/c...r-end-broadwell-chips-to-july-september-2015/
I have my doubts about Intel releasing them both at the same time since they're so ahead of the game, but if that is the case we might not be waiting that long for Skylake.
I have my doubts about Intel releasing them both at the same time since they're so ahead of the game, but if that is the case we might not be waiting that long for Skylake.
I'm going to skip Broadwell in order to gain ,hopefully,the new Alpine Ridge Thunderbolt 3 controller in the 15,as i said around.This because as far i can read Broadwel won't be paired with Alpine ,isn'it?.
There is no reason to believe that Skylake CPUs suitable for the MBP will be shipping in quantity before 2016. The only Skylake CPUs expected in H2 2015 are lower TDP parts. In all likelihood, Broadwell MBPs will be released in Q3 2015 and Skylake MBPs in H1 2016.
No. The reason why Intel split the introduction of new micro-architectures from die shrinks (Tick-Tock) is so that delays with one would not delay the other.
No. All the performance improvements come from being able to squeeze twice as many transistors onto each square centimeter with each die shrink. New micro-architectures add features but generally have little effect on performance. With each Tick (for example Broadwell) the dies are not simply shrunk to half the area of the previous Tock (Haswell continuing the example). The Tick adds more transistors, which are used to increase performance via any combination of adding cores, adding execution units, increasing cache sizes, etc. Transistor counts are generally not doubled so that there is some reduction in TDP, but no where near half.
No. The 13" MBPs use 28W CPUs (which are not available with both quad-core and an iGPU) because 28W CPUs and no discrete GPU allow long battery life with light weight.
sorry guys but skylake is too long. skylake will not be release soon than q4in2015, in my predict maybe more +-q1/2in2016. look on delay with broadwell, and as i know intel - so intel after release broadwell wants to create the most money can from this tick. so isn't real that intel release three or four months after mobile broadwell new mobile. money say all, it's easy.
+-q1/2in2016. look on delay with broadwell, and as i know intel - so intel after release broadwell wants to create the most money can from this tick. so isn't real that intel release three or four months after mobile broadwell new mobile. money say all, it's easy.sorry guys but skylake is too long. skylake will not be release soon than q4in2015, in my predict maybe more
All the money invested in the 14nm Tick is amortized over both Broadwell and Skylake, so Intel has no financial reason to delay Skylake. Skylake will ship when it is ready. That looks like Q4 2015 for 5W and maybe 15W parts and H1 2016 for 28W, 37W, and 47W parts. The only Mac that could possibly ship in late 2015 with a Skylake processor would be a MacBook Air, but I think early 2016 is more likely.
I mean that Intel have.
Such that Broadwell will want to get as much money as possible.
From this and after release skylake, because for example:
when in q1 create for example 5 milion cpus and after 3/4 months release new skylake? when have still many broadwell in stock? Lol this is in my head impossible.
I think this is very unlikely but very, intel has not reasons to accelerate Skylake release. AMD now has not a performance opponent in combat with the highest cpu Haswell so why Intel should shorten release Skylake after Broadwell.
I think it will be at least 3/4 years gap between (maybe one y).
Intel not must rush indicating the next generation of the product after release Broadwell.
Of course Skylake will be released but certainly not in 3/6 months since the release of Broadwell, I think it is impossible.
(yep 5W skylake on Q4 in 2015 looks as real same as in situation now with broadwell, and in 2016 normal skylake this can be real, but this isn't 3/4 or 6 months from now as wrote some people)
But what I think or know other people, on end then it may be all but completely differently.
This situation what will be in year 2015 show CES2015
If will be confirmed thing that is Skylake distanced at least a year,
and will be MBP updatet Early/Mid2015 so I'm buying this.
But if Skylake climbed before (which I think is unlikely) so I will wait for him.
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I just want to play Elite on my Apple computer, just like old times (like almost 30 years ago).
Maybe it will run OK on Iris.
Maybe it will run OK on Iris.
Kinda marginal when you can easily build RAID systems with 1.2k-1.5k MB/s today with off the shelf drives and thunderbolt 2
I'm certainly looking forward to increased battery life with Skylake, but I am even more eager to see the iGPU performance increase.
Broadwell and Skylake should offer better battery life than the current MBP, but I don't expect much of a battery life improvement from Broadwell to Skylake.
Well, you ain't going to see this chip until at the earliest possibly summer 2016, and I dont know why everyone is excited about DDR4? Is the current memory slow?
As for ditching dedicated GPUs, I don't think that will happen for a long time as they will always be advancing and will be more powerful than integrated GPUs.
As for ditching dedicated GPUs, I don't think that will happen for a long time as they will always be advancing and will be more powerful than integrated GPUs.
Apple have been dropping discrete GPUs in favor of dedicated integrated GPUs for a few years already, so the fact that discrete GPUs continue to advance evidently does not keep Apple from moving forward with integration. Apple's moves over the last few years evidence that the integrated dedicated GPUs merely have to be fast enough, not that they have to be as fast as discrete GPUs.
Ever increasing integration, enabled by higher device counts per square centimeter, is the vector of progress in integrated circuits. Why do the defenders of discrete GPUs seem like devout defenders of a religious doctrine?
Apple haven't been doing that, the 13" MBP has never had a discrete GPU and neither has the MB Air, they have always used integrated solutions from Nvidia or Intel.
You appear to be confusing discrete versus integrated GPUs with shared versus dedicated video memory. They are not at all the same thing.
I'm not confused, discrete GPUs are the ones that have their own VRAM and are separate chips on the motherboard, an integrated GPU shares it's VRAM and is integrated into other chips like the CPU or the chipset.
If there is one thing Apple is very good at it is transitions..
68k to PPC, No problem, all your old apps will work.
OS9 to Mac OS X. Sure, we can do classic mode, most things will work. (killed after 10.4 to give time to swap over).
PPC to Intel. Here's Rosetta (Mac OS X 104 (Intel version) - Mac OS X 10.6)...
If they transition to ARM, all the x86/x64 stuff will work for a while
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Lower quality screens???
Ummm 13" RETINA Macbook pro?
Battery life is great as of Haswell anyway. My rMBP gets about 7-10 hours average battery life. DDR4 & PCIe 4.0 could be quite nice, although I'm not sure how I'd feel about no optional dedicated GPU. Wouldn't be too surprised, sadly.
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