I am, but then again I never expected Macs at the March event.
So here's a question to you and all others like you: what, exactly, do you want Apple to do with the new MBPs? What features, specs, changes etc. are you even hoping for?
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I am, but then again I never expected Macs at the March event.
So here's a question to you and all others like you: what, exactly, do you want Apple to do with the new MBPs? What features, specs, changes etc. are you even hoping for?
My demands are not outrageous:
1. Slightly thinner chassis
2. Get rid of USB 3.0 ports (sorry to anyone who wants these) and potentially HDMI (though I wouldn't be opposed to keeping it, but would rather a thinner profile)
3. 2-3 Thunderbolt 3 ports and a headphone jack (maybe keep the SD card slot)
4. Iris Pro 580 for the larger model and Iris 550 for the smaller model
5. New keyboard needs to include the butterfly mechanism (albeit, at what travel I don't know)
6. Wider colour gamut (like the new iMacs)
7. Different colours for the exterior are meh, would be nice but not a necessity
8. Better microphone and speakers too, especially if they want to incorporate Siri into macOS
9. Metal hinge
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In terms of features I'm not expecting more than everything we've been reading about Skylake. I do expect a redesign with a space grey offering. Badly need a 13" that can drive a 4k monitor.
does Apple always have their WWDC conference during June? What if they have it earlier this year? :O
I think I would want something along the lines of...
1. similar or slightly smaller chasis
2. either a 14 or 16 inch screen (same footprint but smaller bezels) with TrueTone from iPad Pro 9.7
3. Intel Iris Pro 580
4. curvier edges than current rmbps... they leave a very unsettling mark on my arms...
5. maybe a better speaker? the one now isn't too bad but better would be nice haha
Hello everybody, this is my first time on this forum, as the others I'm waiting for the new Macbook Pros. I'm currently using a mid 2012 13'' non-retina Macbook, which is pretty amazing, since I've upgraded to 16 GB of ram, removed the optical drive and upgraded to a SSD. I really don't care about the size of the Macbook, so at the first I was looking for a 2012 15'' non-retina macbook as a second PC, to upgrade in a similar way.
Since I usually work with large amounts of data (lots of GB transfers every day, audio processing and so on) I was intruigued by the speed of M.2 SDDs inside the newest Macbooks, the retina screens (I can't stand the little desktop space of my Mac anymore) and a general more performing machine.
What prevented me to upgrade till now, is the impossibility to upgrade the machine; but hardware innovations are almost reaching a point were a five year old machine still can run lots of applications without any problem (in 2000s the gaps between hardware changes were a lot bigger).
I didn't switched to Windows because there are some apps I use which are available only on Mac, because of CoreAudio (Windows ASIO is HORRIBLE), because I love the simplicity of Finder against Explorer (which, in the latest Windows has become terrible to use) and because I find the Macbook Trackpad the best trackpad ever made.
A quick quesiton: how Apple is able to put 1 TB SSDs inside the Macbooks 15'' if Samsung hasn't yet produced such a similar SSD in M.2 format?
So my wishes for the new MacBook are:
A 2TB option (I would likely pay 1000 $ more for this option, since I really need it)
The newest Skylake Quad-Core CPUs with Iris Pro 580
A discrete graphics card only if it proves to be useful against the new Intel one
1 or two Usb 3 ports
Keep the Magsafe!
Since I usually work with large amounts of data (lots of GB transfers every day, audio processing and so on) I was intruigued by the speed of M.2 SDDs inside the newest Macbooks, the retina screens (I can't stand the little desktop space of my Mac anymore) and a general more performing machine.
What prevented me to upgrade till now, is the impossibility to upgrade the machine; but hardware innovations are almost reaching a point were a five year old machine still can run lots of applications without any problem (in 2000s the gaps between hardware changes were a lot bigger).
I didn't switched to Windows because there are some apps I use which are available only on Mac, because of CoreAudio (Windows ASIO is HORRIBLE), because I love the simplicity of Finder against Explorer (which, in the latest Windows has become terrible to use) and because I find the Macbook Trackpad the best trackpad ever made.
A quick quesiton: how Apple is able to put 1 TB SSDs inside the Macbooks 15'' if Samsung hasn't yet produced such a similar SSD in M.2 format?
So my wishes for the new MacBook are:
A 2TB option (I would likely pay 1000 $ more for this option, since I really need it)
The newest Skylake Quad-Core CPUs with Iris Pro 580
A discrete graphics card only if it proves to be useful against the new Intel one
1 or two Usb 3 ports
Keep the Magsafe!
I want:
I won't get all of it, but a fair few will do. My 2012 rMBP is having its last breaths. I hope it survives until they release new MacBooks, otherwise I'll have to do multiplr buy-and-returns until new ones are released.
- Xeon CPU options
- 32GB Ram option (and ECC Ram options)
- 1680x1050@2x for 15 or 1920x1200@2X for 16 inches (these could even be optional)
- Bring back the old "anti glare" display options
- At least one full sized USB port
- At least one USB-C port
- HDMI 2.0
- Mobile Quadro or FirePro GPU options
I won't get all of it, but a fair few will do. My 2012 rMBP is having its last breaths. I hope it survives until they release new MacBooks, otherwise I'll have to do multiplr buy-and-returns until new ones are released.
I think most of these sound reasonable...
But what about Xeon processors? Has Apple ever offered something like that in the past? I've been imagining the 15 inch will go up to the 6970 processor with Iris Pro 580, but only as an optional upgrade like the current models have.
So I expect the high end to top out at the 6870 processor (edit: for standard configurations). If Xeon is an upgrade how costly would that be?
But what about Xeon processors? Has Apple ever offered something like that in the past? I've been imagining the 15 inch will go up to the 6970 processor with Iris Pro 580, but only as an optional upgrade like the current models have.
So I expect the high end to top out at the 6870 processor (edit: for standard configurations). If Xeon is an upgrade how costly would that be?
They're are Xeon options on the Dell Precision and Lenovo P50 amongst others, so its do-able for the Macs...
A metal hinge is a must, it looks extremely sleek on the new rMB.
6870 is $434
6970 is $623
Xeon E3-1575M v5 is $1207.
Since that's the only Xeon with Iris Pro 580 iGPU, I assume that's the only one that Apple will offer.
I assume 6870 will be the default standard option for the most expensive rMBP, then 6970 as a $200 upgrade, and hopefully the Xeon E3-1575M v5 as a larger upgrade of a further $600.
Same for me, would add thinner bezels 14 screen for the 13, and 16 for the 15"
And yes I need the headphone jack and SD card slot.
Plus I use my MBP closed with a desktop display a lot, so that would still need to be possible.
As far as I know, Mac's do not use M.2 connectors. It uses a proprietary connector and form-factor that looks like an M.2 SSD but in fact it isn't.
I guess the 1TB ones are custom ordered for Apple.
The use PCI-E SSD's. These are perfectly standard, though certainly more rare (starting to get more popular happily). I dont think they make anything larger than 1TB though.
That is incorrect. Xeon E3-1545M v5 also contains the Iris Pro P580 integrated graphics. It costs $679.00.
http://ark.intel.com/products/93359/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1545M-v5-8M-Cache-2_90-GHz
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Correct. I was reading from Wikipedia which doesn't have 1545 listed at all. Strange. Hopefully this may mean we get cheaper Xeon upgrades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)
Did anyone else find it slightly worrisome how they described the iPad Pro as "the future of personal computing" several times during last week's event? This surely has to be one of their classic exaggerations?
I'm probably reading too much into it, though. Can hardly wait to see the refreshed Mac lineup in June. My MPB from early 2011 is definitely heading for retirement when that happens.
I'm probably reading too much into it, though. Can hardly wait to see the refreshed Mac lineup in June. My MPB from early 2011 is definitely heading for retirement when that happens.
People did find it worrisome, but I think in the context of slumping iPad sales, Cook was throwing out some hyperbole to try to get the numbers up.
For many many people it is. But not for all. Macs weren't mentioned since only iPads were introduced.
My prediction for the MacBook lineup:
-non-retina MacBook Pro finally dropped (way overdue)
-MacBook Air 11 dropped (MB12 is the future, albeit more expensive)
-MacBook Air 13 continues, possibly without update as it would require some redesign with USB-c etc (follows same path as the old Pro)
-MacBook 12 (silent skylake update and slight price drop)
MacBook Pro 13 and 15 updated with ultra thin design (cues from MB12):
-no discrete GPUs since iGPUs like Iris 580 are catching on and could close the gap within a few generations. This makes for a simpler, smaller and more power efficient design. Less reliance on third parties. These are all attributes Apple tends to favor.
-Normal bezel size. They kept it with MB12. Smaller bezels don't seem to go well with rounded corners, design wise.
-Power over USB-c only, possibly with a clever "Magsafe" cable. Old MagSafe is single purpose, and large. And proprietary; soon USB-c chargers will be standard everywhere!
-XEON option for high-end MacBook 15.
-keyboard not identical to MB12. Maybe similar to the new wireless keyboard, or butterfly with more travel. Too risky to change it too much, the keyboard everyone loves.
-Metal hinge, terraced battery and great speakers as with MB12.
-Ports: USB-c (w/TB3), possibly HDMI (current models have it along with DP), SD-card and 3.5mm (for now).
Hoping for:
-eGPU support, and a 5K Thunderbolt Display with an dGPU. May alleviate challenge of bringing 5K support, especially for MB12?
-TouchID
My prediction for the MacBook lineup:
-non-retina MacBook Pro finally dropped (way overdue)
-MacBook Air 11 dropped (MB12 is the future, albeit more expensive)
-MacBook Air 13 continues, possibly without update as it would require some redesign with USB-c etc (follows same path as the old Pro)
-MacBook 12 (silent skylake update and slight price drop)
MacBook Pro 13 and 15 updated with ultra thin design (cues from MB12):
-no discrete GPUs since iGPUs like Iris 580 are catching on and could close the gap within a few generations. This makes for a simpler, smaller and more power efficient design. Less reliance on third parties. These are all attributes Apple tends to favor.
-Normal bezel size. They kept it with MB12. Smaller bezels don't seem to go well with rounded corners, design wise.
-Power over USB-c only, possibly with a clever "Magsafe" cable. Old MagSafe is single purpose, and large. And proprietary; soon USB-c chargers will be standard everywhere!
-XEON option for high-end MacBook 15.
-keyboard not identical to MB12. Maybe similar to the new wireless keyboard, or butterfly with more travel. Too risky to change it too much, the keyboard everyone loves.
-Metal hinge, terraced battery and great speakers as with MB12.
-Ports: USB-c (w/TB3), possibly HDMI (current models have it along with DP), SD-card and 3.5mm (for now).
Hoping for:
-eGPU support, and a 5K Thunderbolt Display with an dGPU. May alleviate challenge of bringing 5K support, especially for MB12?
-TouchID
There's no way they make it thinner with full size HDMI's. There's literally no room!
I'm expecting a TB3->HDMI adapter (for the low low price of $50) to be there solution unfortunently. That lets them get away with HDMI, DisplayPort and Thunderbolt external compatability from one port.
I'm expecting a TB3->HDMI adapter (for the low low price of $50) to be there solution unfortunently. That lets them get away with HDMI, DisplayPort and Thunderbolt external compatability from one port.
Hope they don't make them "getting thinner" towards the front but more "constant thickness", I'm not a fan of this getting thinner at the front thing, plus it loses plenty of room for batteries.
A bit thinner overall and smaller bezels yes.
I hope for the same as this list, although I do hope a 14" replaces the 13" as that is the model I will be go for.
My current 15" late 2014 machine [top end model] is absolutely fine for my needs and have no complaints with speed. All I need is similar specs in a smaller chassis for better portability and to hook up to the hopefully new 4K 27" Apple monitor.
The MacBook 12" is my favourite design by Apple and no doubt the new pros will have the keyboard, speaker and hinge designs, which are all fantastic. I just hope the SD card slot is retained and am happy with USB C thunderbolt only ports. Need to move forward
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I can't see it sloping - will most likely be similar thickness as the RMB [at its thickest] all the way through as more battery is needed for the processors. This will also allow all the ports to be installed.
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