This is where Apple's obsession on thinness may become seriously annoying.
In any case, I'm looking forward to see if the Razer Core works on a rMBP on BootCamp.
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This is where Apple's obsession on thinness may become seriously annoying.
In any case, I'm looking forward to see if the Razer Core works on a rMBP on BootCamp.
The quote in full says...
"Given the fact that shipments fell YoY for the first time in 1Q16, we don't think large-screen replacement demand will contribute much to growth. To sustain growth, the iPhone needs to come up with more innovative features to revitalize the user experience, for example in form factor design, software and hardware specs. We don't see many attractive selling points for iPhone 7 in 2H16 and are conservative on 2H16F shipments. While we revise up 2016F iPhone SE shipments from 12mn to 18mn units, this won't offset overall iPhone shipments decline."
Note the letter 'F', presumably meaning 'Fiscal'. Perhaps Kuo is inconsistent when it comes to including the 'F' or not, but I'm not convinced that he was using Apple earnings data when he stated shipments fell YoY for 1Q16 (as opposed to 1Q16F). There are plenty of other sources, perhaps one of the insiders he gets his info from (after all he made this statement only 2 days before the official report and we know this guy has connections!).
older imacs gets a lot hoter than current one...so not thinness is the problem, look ipad pro etc, but the fans and cooling systems are much more important
Inconsistency with the F-word....Where is the world going ? 
I wish apple would give an 'F' as that would mean a WWDC announcementInconsistency with the F-word....Where is the world going ?
They get hotter because they are older...you would need to compare with a similar CPU and TDP.
Efficiency of the cooling system is closely linked to the amount of space available, and thus to thinness. The thinner...the lesser space for heatsink/pipe/vents.
IINM Razer stated the Core currently only works with their Blade laptops. No third party support yet for the time being.
nope, first day you bought an 2010 imac is still hotter to touch than current one..for the same tasks..the cpu die is smaller and more eff so less heat..the thinness only affects current battery capacity, i said current ones because the future is bright for the batteries
[doublepost=1464260453][/doublepost]All Apple devices got thinner but also colder, think about iphone 4 vs 6s or se, imac, my god those white macbooks vs current one and so on...so even the devices get a lot thiner that didn't affect the heat. yes maybe a macbook with the same thickness as 2008 macbook maybe could run even colder but hey its a nice compromise. Only 4-6C was the difference
Can someone just fcuking tweet the guy or something, to get this debacle resolved once and for all?
lol, they are hotter because they are older and therefor have older tech, which is made with 28nm, and the CPU and GPU are less efficient and more energy goes to heat, the heat/cumpute ratio is worse for every generation backwards in CPUs and GPUs, it has little to do with the aging of the Mac itself other than some dust in the heatsinks, and the aging of the thermalpaste
The 'F' means forecast.
"We don't see many attractive selling points for iPhone 7 in 2H16 and are conservative on 2H16F shipments."
"While we revise up 2016F iPhone SE shipments from 12mn to 18mn units, this won't offset overall iPhone shipments decline."
You can get 1920x1200 resolution on the current 15" when you change display settings to "More Space".
You guys really get Serban ALL wrong...
he never said its about AGING products, as you may have notices he's speaking heavily accented english, so I assume it's not his native language. He meant exactly what you guys said, obviously. Older tech dissipates more heat, newer tech achieves the same or higher performance with less heat, thus making a product thinner doesn't make a difference in performance because the newer components are already cooler running. Dang it...
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and YES if you put 2016 tech in 2008 chassis it will be able to run cooler than the 2008 tech did and it will run cooler than in its 2016 chassis because of more space for more airflow, but 2016 tech in 2016 chassis OVERALL is still cooler than 2008 tech in bigger 2008 chassis.
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he never said its about AGING products, as you may have notices he's speaking heavily accented english, so I assume it's not his native language. He meant exactly what you guys said, obviously. Older tech dissipates more heat, newer tech achieves the same or higher performance with less heat, thus making a product thinner doesn't make a difference in performance because the newer components are already cooler running. Dang it...
OBVIOUSLY
and YES if you put 2016 tech in 2008 chassis it will be able to run cooler than the 2008 tech did and it will run cooler than in its 2016 chassis because of more space for more airflow, but 2016 tech in 2016 chassis OVERALL is still cooler than 2008 tech in bigger 2008 chassis.
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that was the auto-correction. I apologize.
But as I have said, somebody actually Overclocked the eDRAM on the 5775C...
That is what I was trying to point out.
That's how I've been running since day one. There are even tools out there that will let you run on the native resolution 2880x1800 (though you'll eventually want to see a doctor staring at those tiny icons/menus).
does anyone know a shortcut key for DELETE as my Macbook Air does not have Delete button in it.
You I am afraid have not very large knowledge about thermal dynamics and physics in silicon.
45W of TDP means this: 45W of power consumed is transformed into 45W of heat. 45W CPU from Nehalem Generation will consume exactly the same amount of power, and generate EXACTLY the same amount of HEAT as 45W CPU from Skylake Generation. It has nothing to do with how much years the CPU has. Efficiency currently is achieved by adding more powerformance in THE SAME thermal envelope as before. It does not make CPUs use less power, unless we are talking about light load, or idle states.
And again. 45W CPU from whatever past generation is not producing more heat than 45W CPU from current generation. And this goes for every CPU generation there is.
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