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You know, I really wish that Apple would create a MacBook Classic...a notebook that takes all of the best of features that they have jettisoned in recent years and marries them with the best technology that the market has to offer in 2016. Just imagine it! They could take the design of the cMBP and stuff some really awesome tech into it in order to make a fantastic computer. Sure, it would be thicker, but they could also put in a bigger battery, better graphics cards, they could put both USB-A and USB-C into it (it's classic, after all!), a sleep/wake LED, a battery indicator, etc. Of course, there would be no optical drive, which is where I was getting the increase in battery life and power! A machine like this would have a retina display, Skylake i7 (quad, of course), Polaris/Pascal dGPU, and more modern design language with the all metal hinge.

And of course it would have user upgradeable components. I've been thinking about it, and I think a 90's approach where you would pull up a keyboard tray that's been integrated into the aluminum body so you wouldn't have to flip it over and putz around with a screwdriver. Once you pop off the tray with the keyboard, below it you would have your RAM and SSD sticks that you could swap out. Maybe even the wireless card would be there too, so whenever new 801.11 and Bluetooth standards were released you could just buy a new card and install it. It would be feasible I think, because they wouldn't need to solder everything down as the focus isn't being thin.

I don't understand this obsession with weight and thickness. Even a 5 lb notebook doesn't bother me that much, and the thickness doesn't matter either. These things don't impede portability in my opinion, so I would be all for a computer like this.

Of course, I know that this will never ever happen, but it's always fun to dream!
 
At that point what keeps me on waiting is the USB c ports and tb3 more than anything else.
But wwdc announce is really required, if not I cross the line
(or maybe not)
 
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arstechnica today has published the review of intel skull canyon platform, 6770hq and iris pro 580

Yes, and they provide with a very good comparison of GPU performance: we have Haswell, Broadwell and Skylake.

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Even the 540 (not the 550!) is 2x better vs HD6000, and 3x better vs HD5000 !

Source: http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/05/intel-nuc-quad-core-skull-canyon-review/
 
You know, I really wish that Apple would create a MacBook Classic...a notebook that takes all of the best of features that they have jettisoned in recent years and marries them with the best technology that the market has to offer in 2016. Just imagine it! They could take the design of the cMBP and stuff some really awesome tech into it in order to make a fantastic computer. Sure, it would be thicker, but they could also put in a bigger battery, better graphics cards, they could put both USB-A and USB-C into it (it's classic, after all!), a sleep/wake LED, a battery indicator, etc. Of course, there would be no optical drive, which is where I was getting the increase in battery life and power! A machine like this would have a retina display, Skylake i7 (quad, of course), Polaris/Pascal dGPU, and more modern design language with the all metal hinge.

And of course it would have user upgradeable components. I've been thinking about it, and I think a 90's approach where you would pull up a keyboard tray that's been integrated into the aluminum body so you wouldn't have to flip it over and putz around with a screwdriver. Once you pop off the tray with the keyboard, below it you would have your RAM and SSD sticks that you could swap out. Maybe even the wireless card would be there too, so whenever new 801.11 and Bluetooth standards were released you could just buy a new card and install it. It would be feasible I think, because they wouldn't need to solder everything down as the focus isn't being thin.

I don't understand this obsession with weight and thickness. Even a 5 lb notebook doesn't bother me that much, and the thickness doesn't matter either. These things don't impede portability in my opinion, so I would be all for a computer like this.

Of course, I know that this will never ever happen, but it's always fun to dream!

MacBook Pro SE
 
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some says that Iris Pro 580 is better than 960M...

Based on these benchmarks that might be a little optimistic, it looks more like it's somewhere in the 950M to 960M range (if that)...but that is cross comparing benchmark numbers. Very impressive numbers for an iGPU and from a TDP standpoint.
 
just some bare numbers from GFXBench tests for comparison
took all the rMBP graphic cards back to 2013

test: GFXBench 1080p t-Rex offscreen OpenGL Windows

iris pro 580 - 252fps

iris pro 5200 - 146.1fps
iris 6100 - 105.8fps
iris 5100 - 84.9fps
intel HD 4000 - 45.4fps

R9 M370X - 221fps
GT 750M - 132.9fps
GT 650M - 122.5fps

GTX 960M - 303fps
R9 M395 - 574.7fps

(iPad pro in the same test, OpenGL under iOS made 163.2 fps)



test: GFXBench 1080p Manhattan offscreen OpenGL Windows

iris pro 580 - 108.5fps

iris pro 5200 - 79.9fps
iris 6100 - 49.6fps
iris 5100 - 39.6fps
intel HD 4000 - -.-fps

R9 M370X - 68.6fps
GT 750M - 82.1fps
GT 650M - 71.8fps

GTX 960M - 164.2fps
R9 M395 - 122fps
 
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Well it turns out the HD580 may not be as cool as they say, after all...

According to forum users all over the internet, the reason why HD 580 in HQ6770 is underperforming is... because of thermal limit to 45W. It declocks itself to 800 MHz all the time. It is more a problem with power limit rather than thermal limit, because 65W 1150 MHz GT4e SoC will not show this behavior.
 
What if...what if..what if the rumored OLED touch bar is not a "bar" but something else?

Now, I have no photoshop with me, so I'll try to explain.
Instead of a ugly glossy black bar replacing the function keys line we may have no function keys at all. Replacing them I imagine the non-interrupted aluminum body with little blue-glowing marks activated with the regular touch mechanism.

Sounds much more polish and Ive-style to me ;)
 
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How bad is the MB keyboard?

Off topic, but still deserves an answer.
Recently I've been in a Apple store and tried rMB, MBA and rMBP in parallel. Besides all the obvious checks you can make among these three machines, I dedicated something like 15 minutes typing on each one of them.
The rMB takes a lot of time to adjust and feel comfortable with.

Before daring to purchase I recommend to extensively try it, even going to the same store multiple times.
 
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Off topic, but still deserves an answer.
Recently I've been in a Apple store and tried rMB, MBA and rMBP in parallel. Besides all the obvious checks you can make among these three machines, I dedicated something like 15 minutes typing on each one of them.
The rMB takes a lot of time to adjust and feel comfortable with.

Before daring to purchase I recommend to extensively try it, even going to the same store multiple times.

I disagree. Yeah, it takes time to adjust to. But so do most things that are new and not familiar. If you think the MB is the machine which fulfills your needs, then go for it. You WILL get used to it, eventually. And maybe even love it.
 
Yes i the mb keyboard is better. You can't be objective and compare a keyboard that you used for a decade vs a one that you use it for 10 min or 1 day.
After writing on mb a long code i change to mbp and i find it a low quality. And in the night even worse looking with all that bleed..
 
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