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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Gamer is a person who enjoys the game without any other reason than the game itself.
I consider myself as a gamer. I enjoy Heroes of The Storm and Hearthstone and Overwatch. Most of new games are completely non-playable for me. This is my personal opinion. Am I wrong?
I am not wrong or right. You decide for yourselves if you are, or not a gamers.
I consider myself as a gamer. I enjoy Heroes of The Storm and Hearthstone and Overwatch. Most of new games are completely non-playable for me. This is my personal opinion. Am I wrong?
I am not wrong or right. You decide for yourselves if you are, or not a gamers.
Yeah there are many types of "gamers" but saying that igpu is ok for 80% of games when you are type of lol or wow player is stupid. You can't play 1080p high details on witcher3, division, total war warhamer, hitman, quantum break, rise of tomb raider etc. It's hard to find good looking game that is playable on 1080p using igpu.
common guys, we are right ..gamer is the one who play any game(that he likes) when he is bored or nothing to do or even worst, like a hard gamer that spends all his life time playing games.
So based on what games you love to play as a gamer, you must pick your machine. For non demanding games, that hd580 should be fine.
So based on what games you love to play as a gamer, you must pick your machine. For non demanding games, that hd580 should be fine.
I think the problem is that 80% of gamers are exactly what you first described - they enjoy games like LoL, Dota 2, Heroes of the Storm, Hearthstone, and other titles that don't require a desktop class or dGPU considering the initial Iris Pro 580 results. The other 20% are the AAA title graphic-busters.
I mainly play Heroes of the storm and hope to get into Overwatch when the new MBP comes out and I feel like running Bootcamp. If I wanted just a gaming rig, I'd buy a desktop. The best part is an eGPU solves all of this - allows me to have one computer (MBP) with great power efficiency and battery life on the go, and when I need to play those graphic heavy games I can do so at home with a keyboard, mouse, dedicated display, and an eGPU.
They can take my money the second they announce the new MBPs if that's the case.
Shhhhh don't crush my dreams!!
Realistically though, a fall release seems more likely to me.
Not necessarily. They could have a special version of the current OS X. The original rMBP did.
I sure hope so, still don't want to get my hopes up though. Our only salvation is hardware support for touchID appearing in one of the last betas for OS X 10.11.6
Hopefully!
Pretty soon we'll find out. If nothing is announced on the 13th, I guess I'm stuck with the 2015 rMBP, or the rMB which I almost buy on impulse every day we are without an updated rMBP.
This might be a stupid question, but Amd has Crossfire and Nvidia has SLI that allow computers to take advantage of two gpus simultaneously. Why is there not such option for igpu? Wouldn't it be much wiser for Apple to just stick in 2x Iris pro 580, rather than adding in a bigger & more power hungry dgpu and let the igpu sit idle when dgpu is in use? And wouldn't it be good business for Intel as well?
The Iris Pro 580 doesn't have a standalone version.. it is always integrated with the CPU. Plus, you'd be adding more thermal requirements 45W + 45W which would result in more heat and require better dissipation while reducing battery life significantly. Just not the direction Apple wants to go, I don't think.
I wont be arguing more about this, since it is way out of my expertise, but I guess that those are just design decisions. I mean that with current (Skylake) tech it is not possible for sure, but I see no reason why Intel could not design things so that they pack 2x of the graphics elements to a die. Of course it is a lot of work, but it could dominate the whole market of highend laptops that would otherwise have dgpus from other vendors.
It is cheaper to have A.) 2 cheap igpus than B.) 1 cheap igpu and 1 expensive dgpu
There is likely more punch in 2xigpu than 1xdgpu
And I think that the 2 igpus are roughly as power hungry as one dgpu. That mentioned 45W in Skylake is not caused by igpu alone.
It is cheaper to have A.) 2 cheap igpus than B.) 1 cheap igpu and 1 expensive dgpu
There is likely more punch in 2xigpu than 1xdgpu
And I think that the 2 igpus are roughly as power hungry as one dgpu. That mentioned 45W in Skylake is not caused by igpu alone.
I play D3 on HD4000 on a daily basis. I consider myself a gamer. HD550 will be a huge difference, if it is ever released 
I would like to play witcher 3 on high 1080p, can't on my iris 6100, nothing will change with hd550 or 580I play D3 on HD4000 on a daily basis. I consider myself a gamer. HD550 will be a huge difference, if it is ever released
Fisrt you write that iris 580 is slowet than iris 6200 in real life situation (!) then you write that performance is ok for 80% of games. Nice ********s
I frankly don't see the point of a dGPU in a laptop unless you are doing allot of work that requires CUDA or combined GPU/CPU acceleration, or have a high end dGPU like a 970M that can play games at decent settings. A mid range dGPU, unless your workflow requires it, is utterly pointless when iGPUs perform on-par. If I want to play ARMA III, I'll play on gaming PC.
in my experience, playing on a laptop with palm rest at 40°C and fan spinning at 6000rpm constant, whatever details one can get, it's a nuisance.
maybe newer laptops got quieter, but my 2010 15" with 2 fans at top speed is quite a screamer.
for casual gaming i pretty much enjoy the latest consoles at my friends'. serious gamers i know are willing to invest in a dedicated desktop, the experience is worth the money if you care for graphics.
(and with experience i mean not only a gpu, but also monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers!)
in my opinion, the demographic of the casual laptop gamer is smaller than what many want to pass on.
maybe newer laptops got quieter, but my 2010 15" with 2 fans at top speed is quite a screamer.
for casual gaming i pretty much enjoy the latest consoles at my friends'. serious gamers i know are willing to invest in a dedicated desktop, the experience is worth the money if you care for graphics.
(and with experience i mean not only a gpu, but also monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers!)
in my opinion, the demographic of the casual laptop gamer is smaller than what many want to pass on.
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I agree, but potenitally midrange mobile polars (don't think that nvidia pascal is possible unfortunately) can be 2x faster.
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