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I really hope the new MacBook Pro incorporates the improved displays of the iMac (as well as the iPad Pro 9.7"), the higher color gamut and everything. Ever since I got my iPad Pro 9.7", it's been obvious how inferior the iPhone 6S screen is (colors aren't as bright, the whole thing has kind of a reddish tint, etc.) That's one reason I couldn't get a previous model of the MBP, assuming that the new one will incorporate this improved display technology.

I don't really like the idea of extra color. Every time it is bigger than normal RGB or HDTV values it becomes a hassle for the many programs that don't support it.
 
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I'm buying the current 15 inch MBP. It's a vetted platform that works. Who knows what issues the new MBP will have.
I feel the same.... plus I have to give my daughter mine for school.
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In Canada in 2013 there was already no complimentary Apple Care for students, only a significant rebate.

Ask my rMBP, who lost its screen last summer...
I never remember students getting AppleCare free. We do get a discount - from $299 to $239 - 20%.
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I feel the same.... plus I have to give my daughter mine for school.
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I never remember students getting AppleCare free. We do get a discount - from $299 to $239 - 20%.
Also, B&H Photo seems to have dropped a lot of their rMBP promotions.. back to regular prices.
 
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I don't really like the idea of extra color. Every time it is bigger than normal RGB or HDTV values it becomes a hassle for the many programs that don't support it.
I would prefer sRGB colorspace as well. Maybe in ten years time aRGB or P3 will be more widely supported but for now it is only useful for photography, print and video editing professionals.
 
I would prefer sRGB colorspace as well. Maybe in ten years time aRGB or P3 will be more widely supported but for now it is only useful for photography, print and video editing professionals.

It's also great for creating marketing buzz :rolleyes:

So what exactly happens if you try to use those programs that don't support it? I'd guess it distorts the colors unless the program specifically designates what color space it was referring to when it wanted a certain color code so that it can be converted to the wider color space?
 
I know this is just hopeful thinking, however I hope they incorporate an OLED Display as well. Yes there are burn-in issues, however those are being fixed. OLED would truly be the most accurate display ever.
People are obsessed with OLED ... fine. No harm intended.
But a good IPS panel with multi-colored LED backlight can be so much better.

OLED has a long way to go.
They did not invent pentile pixel arrangement for fun.
It is so much harder to get an accurate OLED display.
You might like these oversaturated displays on your phone, but certainly not on a big screen.

\Other than IPS, OLED has far more problems with whitepoints and consistent color temperature across the panel.
You might like it on a 5,5" display, but not on 15".

(TV's are not really an argument because they can get away with bigger pixels and any ordering or dupliaction of color components they wish. You are too far away to see that on a 1080p TV)

I found an article about OLED calibration that came close to magic, because a truely calibrated OLED panel takes so much more steps to produce and would be expensive as hell.)
 
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People are obsessed with OLED ... fine. No harm intended.
But a good IPS panel with multi-colored LED backlight can be so much better.

OLED has a long way to go.
They did not invent pentile pixel arrangement for fun.
It is so much harder to get an accurate OLED display.
You might like these oversaturated displays on your phone, but certainly not on a big screen.

\Other than IPS, OLED has far more problems with whitepoints and consistent color temperature across the panel.
You might like it on a 5,5" display, but not on 15".

(TV's are not really an argument because they can get away with bigger pixels and any ordering or dupliaction of color components they wish. You are too far away to see that on a 1080p TV)

I found an article about OLED calibration that came close to magic, because a truely calibrated OLED panel takes so much more steps to produce and would be expensive as hell.)

OLED TVs are fantastic -- the LG OLED TV line has received a lot of praise from videophile reviewers for their accurate color reproduction and calibration out-of-the-box.
 
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OLED TVs are fantastic -- the LG OLED TV line has received a lot of praise from videophile reviewers for their accurate color reproduction and calibration out-of-the-box.
Yes. TV's are way easier than high-density panels. TV's are big in relation to the number of pixels and color cells per "pixel". You can add additional greens ore arrange them with a camera, etc.
I'm not saying they don't work, I'm just afraid of an early adaptor OLED MacBook.
Google some OLED manufacturing articles. It is really interesting what they can do these days.
I just don't want a MacBook to be a guinea pig
 
LG Oled are my new religion. Whenever i see a 4k Oled from LG i lay down and start praying. But 8k is alot! That's 4 MacBookPros!
 
Does anyone know how bluetooth is integrated in MacBooks? Could it be that Apple was holding out for Bluetooth 5? (in addition to appropriate Skylake, and possibly Polaris chips).

The improved range and data transfer of bluetooth 5 seems important for Apples wireless strategy with rather significant benefits to users. Longer range, no/fewer dropouts during audio/video streaming. Could be important for Beats and the rumored wireless AirPods.
 
For all of those who were considering to take advantage of the student discount in the UK (like me)
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/16/apple-lowers-edu-discount-no-free-applecare-uk/



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I really try not to be pissed at Apple but this 'screw over the customer cos we're Apple' thing is reaaaallly starting to push me away... Not cool Apple.. Not cool..

I always bought my macs from my brother's student account to get thst 15% off and 3 years AppleCare. Shame that they got rid of it.
 
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I tried both the MB and MBP extensively in an Apple Store today. To be very honest, next to the MB, the MBP felt so ancient, the boxy body, the smaller but more elevated keyboard.

My first conclusion is I would never buy the current MBP.
I want to give the MB some serious consideration. I think I can work around the one port issue with a nice docking station, there is a hack available to support 4K external display, so the last question is really if its powerful enough for handling Lightroom?
 
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Got the rMBP 13" yesterday (i5 2,9Ghz/8gb/512gb) and I think I'm going to be more than fine with it for the next +6 years. I kinda feel a bit silly now for not buying it earlier; I waited for the Skylake version for almost a year just to realize that the current gen offers me everything I wanted from a laptop and that the upcoming Skylake version would have just been full of compromizes that I don't have to deal with with the current Broadwell version.

I also really like the fact that modern Macbooks don't need BIOS emulation anymore and can just boot directly into Windows 10 and everything works perfectly like it would in any other Windows laptop.
 
I tried both the MB and MBP extensively in an Apple Store today. To be very honest, next to the MB, the MBP felt so ancient, the boxy body, the smaller but more elevated keyboard.

My first conclusion is I would never buy the current MBP.
I want to give the MB some serious consideration. I think I can work around the one port issue with a nice docking station, there is a hack available to support 4K external display, so the last question is really if its powerful enough for handling Lightroom?

I can't help thinking that is partly due to people being used to the current MBP.

Whatever is new will look "better" just because it is new.

The size of the keyboard has never been an issue. Elevated keys might not look as "cool", but in terms of use I have found it great. Don't know how the Macbook is in comparison - as I have never owned a Macbook, but in store I much prefer the MBP (acknowledging that might change if I had gotten to use the Macbook keyboard over time).

Not that it matters if you don't like it. I can't get myself to buy a new MBP myself at the moment - even if it has nothing to do with how it looks for me.
 
I can't help thinking that is partly due to people being used to the current MBP.

Whatever is new will look "better" just because it is new.

The size of the keyboard has never been an issue. Elevated keys might not look as "cool", but in terms of use I have found it great. Don't know how the Macbook is in comparison - as I have never owned a Macbook, but in store I much prefer the MBP (acknowledging that might change if I had gotten to use the Macbook keyboard over time).

Not that it matters if you don't like it. I can't get myself to buy a new MBP myself at the moment - even if it has nothing to do with how it looks for me.
To be honest, I've tried shallower keyboards similar to the rMB keyboard (Logitech keys-to-go was my main keyboard for about a year) and I much rather prefer the rMBP type keyboard (like on the Apple wireless keyboard original) just because they have a much nicer 'jump' when typing. I can only describe that feeling as a 'pure delight' when typing, something that's impossible to achieve with a shallow depth keyboard cos it feels like I'm hitting the desk with every key press :/
 
Got the rMBP 13" yesterday (i5 2,9Ghz/8gb/512gb) and I think I'm going to be more than fine with it for the next +6 years. I kinda feel a bit silly now for not buying it earlier; I waited for the Skylake version for almost a year just to realize that the current gen offers me everything I wanted from a laptop and that the upcoming Skylake version would have just been full of compromizes that I don't have to deal with with the current Broadwell version.

I also really like the fact that modern Macbooks don't need BIOS emulation anymore and can just boot directly into Windows 10 and everything works perfectly like it would in any other Windows laptop.

I'm getting tempted to do the same. I need a MBP in time for uni otherwise there will be difficulties, and waiting until October is so far away. I'd also get free Beats headphones if I ordered the current model.

But I don't know if I'd regret not waiting for Skylake. It's a massive dilemma.
[doublepost=1466165085][/doublepost]Essentially, is it clear how much of a performance jump Skylake will be? I don't really care about USB-C or Thunderbolt 3, and I could very much live without the OLED bar. But I don't want my MBP to be slow and/or not getting OS updates for the next 4-5 years.
 
I'm getting tempted to do the same. I need a MBP in time for uni otherwise there will be difficulties, and waiting until October is so far away. I'd also get free Beats headphones if I ordered the current model.

But I don't know if I'd regret not waiting for Skylake. It's a massive dilemma.
[doublepost=1466165085][/doublepost]Essentially, is it clear how much of a performance jump Skylake will be? I don't really care about USB-C or Thunderbolt 3, and I could very much live without the OLED bar. But I don't want my MBP to be slow and/or not getting OS updates for the next 4-5 years.

Do you care about the GPU? Would playing casual games like Dota 2 or something be important to you? If yes, its worth waiting. If no, Skylake wont offer you too much.
 
Do you care about the GPU? Would playing casual games like Dota 2 or something be important to you? If yes, its worth waiting. If no, Skylake wont offer you too much.

I don't plan on playing games. I've calculated I can afford the 3.1 GHz i7 processor on the base 13 inch current MBP - I'm just concerned about that lasting until 2021 with everyday use, but no Photoshop, video editing, gaming etc.
 
I tried both the MB and MBP extensively in an Apple Store today. To be very honest, next to the MB, the MBP felt so ancient, the boxy body, the smaller but more elevated keyboard.

My first conclusion is I would never buy the current MBP.
I want to give the MB some serious consideration. I think I can work around the one port issue with a nice docking station, there is a hack available to support 4K external display, so the last question is really if its powerful enough for handling Lightroom?

I almost convinced myself too the other day but I think I'm just desperate for a new one. it's worse in all these categories just for the sake of better portability:

-Battery life (10 vs 12 hours)
-Performance (m vs i, 8gb vs 16gb)
-Connectivity (one vs multi)
-Screen size (12" vs 13")
-Audio
-Webcam (480p vs 720p)
-Keyboard (subjective)

This would be somewhat understandable if it wasn't the same price as the MBP.
 
The next MBP has taken so long to come out, it will be the first time Apple releases a product that's completely vetted of all bugs. It's going to be so great, that after the late 2016 MBP is released, they probably won't need to release another until early 2019.

Don't give them ideas! They're probably already having meetings about releasing the Skylake version in 2018
 
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