If they wait until mid 2017 then yes.... Or use 15 watt Kaby lake then yes...
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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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TechZeke
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If the release of the 15" is happening in 2016, then it will have to be Skylake. The Iris Pro Skylake CPUs literally were just released. Even 28W Iris CPUs in for the 13" didn't release until early this year.
13" will happen pretty much just when Apple finally decides to release the damn thing.
Man I am disappointed! I have been waiting a long time for the "next gen" MBP! My current machine is limping so bad, but I refuse to buy the current model 
aednichols
macrumors 6502
Same situation, I still use the '09 MBP in my sig. Almost caved and bought the refreshed 2016 rMB, but I concluded it's not enough computer for my needs.
Won't happen. Free Beats would cut into their margins. Post September 5th announcement at the earliest.
What needs are above the limits of the MacBook 12"? How do the M5 chips compare with the i5? Is it a noticeable difference if e.g. you opened 50 tabs of text and video? And what about in the long-term, will the MacBook become sluggish quicker than the MBP?
I tried out the MacBook in store and the 12" screen does feel a lot smaller than 13" (ironically, I think this is made worse by how small and light the actual laptop is - it feels like a tablet, it's almost TOO small/light).
TechZeke
macrumors 68020
Another reason I'm not a fan of the touch bar. Another potential software related PITA that could cause problems with trying to run bootcamp or a VM. Dealing with the function keys is already problem when Apple drops support for your Mac for the bootcamp drivers. My guess is that they will simply add a Windows driver for it, like how using volume function keys in bootcamp the speaker symbol looks like OS X.
frankgrimes
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TechZeke
macrumors 68020
Numerous rumors pointed to an OLED touch bar, then there was leaked photos:
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/31/macbook-pro-leaked-photos-oled-touch-panel/
Here is a nice concept of it.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/09/macbook-pro-oled-touch-panel-concept/
I don't really see the point of this at all, and seems like an added potential point of failure in the software in-general, not just bootcamp.
aednichols
macrumors 6502
Software engineering and data analysis workflows
We won't be able to compare directly until we know which CPU models Apple will choose for its new machines
I tested the 1.1 GHz Macbook at the Apple Store, and it was able to play a 4K/60fps Youtube video in Chrome. However, my work-issued 13" rMBP can be seen to struggle with a large number of tabs/apps, and I wouldn't want that on my personal machine either.
I would expect so, yes. Highly-specced machines last longer than mediocre ones. Just look at the iPad 3.
Conversion
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Every time someone complains, Apple delays it by a day.
Dutchdude99
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WiseAJ
macrumors 65816
So then we will see it in like one hundred years?
The plus side to them releasing skylake MBP in Octoberish/fall (atleast for me) is that I can probably choose between them and the new surface line up (which would hopefully come out around then)
Trying my hardest to stay positive.
Trying my hardest to stay positive.
Phatalbert1000
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I guess a 14" non pro MacBook is still possible pre-fall since it doesn't require the Sierra specific OLED stuff. Still seems really unlikely though.
shareef777
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Part of that install process includes drivers to setup components like wifi/camera/graphics. I'm sure the macOS Sierra version of bootcamp will include drivers to customize that within Windows. And that if it doesn't detect an OS just default to touch based function keys.
Dydegu
macrumors 6502a
I've been away for a bit, but I know this is pretty new:
We made it.
We made it.
WRONG
macrumors 6502a
Every time someone calls Gabe Newell "fat", he delays HL3 by a day.
Sorta Geeky
macrumors newbie
I would guess the OLED bar could have a simple non programmable driver for just the regular function keys while in Windows.
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Surface V is 2017 according to rumors and it is to be Kaby Lake.
Is it possible they will release them before the Back to School special ends but just exclude the new model from the offer?
a lot of students would still opt for the headphones over the update I'm sure.
a lot of students would still opt for the headphones over the update I'm sure.
Sorta Geeky
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I've been thinking they must have a decent spec 13" MacBook coming soon - to help with the fact that it is likely to be late 2016 for Bew MacBook Pros. Has to be.
Mr. Retrofire
macrumors 603
It is still available in Ireland and Italy, and perhaps other countries.
http://www.apple.com/it/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro
http://www.apple.com/ie/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro
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Probably the firmware. OS-specific drivers allow additional/other functions.
harync
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So just to continue to grasping at straws, I went back and looked at all the processors used for MBPs. Surprisingly, there have only been 8 going back to the introduction in February 2006. This isn't counting any minor spec bumps.
Listing 2 cores for example:
Core Duo ("Yonah") 8 months before processor change
Core 2 Duo ("Merom") 16 months before processor change
Core 2 Duo ("Penryn") 26 months before processor change
Westmere Core i7 ("Arrandale") 11 months before processor change
Sandy Bridge Core i7 (2-core) 15 months before processor change
Ivy Bridge Core i7 (2-core) 16 months before processor change
Haswell Core i7 (2-core) 17 months before processor change
Broadwell Core i7 ULT (2-core) 15 months and counting
Average Time between processors: 15.6 months, with 8 months on the low side and 26 months on the high side. We are right at the average range of 15-17 months now. I hope that Penryn to Arrandale timeframe is an outlier never to be repeated.
Listing 2 cores for example:
Core Duo ("Yonah") 8 months before processor change
Core 2 Duo ("Merom") 16 months before processor change
Core 2 Duo ("Penryn") 26 months before processor change
Westmere Core i7 ("Arrandale") 11 months before processor change
Sandy Bridge Core i7 (2-core) 15 months before processor change
Ivy Bridge Core i7 (2-core) 16 months before processor change
Haswell Core i7 (2-core) 17 months before processor change
Broadwell Core i7 ULT (2-core) 15 months and counting
Average Time between processors: 15.6 months, with 8 months on the low side and 26 months on the high side. We are right at the average range of 15-17 months now. I hope that Penryn to Arrandale timeframe is an outlier never to be repeated.
I'm buying the current 15 inch MBP. It's a vetted platform that works. Who knows what issues the new MBP will have.
Sorta Geeky
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