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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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GubbyMan said:
I just assumed that MBA would throttle under heavy load, you're probably right about that.

Edit: I just remembered, turbo boost will be able to run at faster clock rates for a longer time with better cooling systems. So maybe the 15W CPUs are scoring that high because they can use turbo boost before the chip overheats and have to use normal clock speed?
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it could be!
sadly there's not so much official information about that, unless someone here in the forum wants to experiment with it, i guess we cannot know for sure!
also it's unpractical to do rigorous tests, due to variables (like ambient temperature) that are hardly measured/controlled.

Baldrake said:
They won't increase the resolution unless the physical screen also increases in size. Higher resolution in the same screen space will start to make text and UI elements uncomfortably small.
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i'm using a 15" mbp from 2010, the one with higher res screen (1680X1050).
going from this to a 2*(1440x900) would feel kind of a downgrade for me. yes, images are crisper, but i'd lose some real estate. Not to mention the 13", that with an equivalent 1280x800 feels like a toy. i don't know how the scaled resolutions look on them though.
i borrowed a mba for some months and the screen and GUI felt perfect for me, if you come from a lower res (bigger GUI) it's just a matter of getting used to it, but sure it's readable. i wonder why haven't they ever updated the mbp screen to match the mba resolution (i'm talking about the pre-retina era).
 
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I've determined I will saw off my left leg and promise my first born to Apple for this laptop to come out before the turn of the next century...we better get the invite tomorrow.
 
augustya said:
Who says the invites are going to come tomorrow ?
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Invite--Event
August 28, 2014--September 9, 2014
Thursday, 12 (7 working) days before full event on Tuesday

October 8, 2014--October 16, 2014
Wednesday, 8 (6 working) days before press event on Thursday

February 26, 2015--March 9, 2015
Thursday, 11 (6 working) days before full event on Monday

August 27, 2015--September 9, 2015
Thursday, 13 (8 working) days before full event on Wednesday

10 March, 2016--21 March, 2016
Thursday, 11 (6 working) days before full event on Monday

3/5 past invites were on Thursdays

There's no definite pattern here, so Thursday is a best guess kind of thing in my mind. Going back further than two years only complicates the issue, and I excluded WWDCs since they're such different events anyway.

Edit: My info was wrong on the 8/27 invite, so just ignore this and read the better synopsis on Page 871...
 
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Exile714 said:
Invite--Event
August 28, 2014--September 9, 2014
Thursday, 12 (7 working) days before full event on Tuesday

October 8, 2014--October 16, 2014
Wednesday, 8 (6 working) days before press event on Thursday

February 26, 2015--March 9, 2015
Thursday, 11 (6 working) days before full event on Monday

August 25, 2015--September 9, 2015
Tuesday, 15 (10 working) days before full event on Wednesday

10 March, 2016--21 March, 2016
Thursday, 11 (6 working) days before full event on Monday

3/5 past invites were on Thursdays

There's no definite pattern here, so Thursday is a best guess kind of thing in my mind. Going back further than two years only complicates the issue, and I excluded WWDCs since they're such different events anyway.
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Even if Thursday's the best day to receive the invites are we in the same duration of days of receiving the invites as in the past years isn't this too early.
 
GubbyMan said:
But it does mean smaller icons and text. Lets say Apple releases the 15" MBP with a 4K display, using HiDPI it will have a desktop space that looks like 1920x1200 while the current MBP has a desktop space that looks like 1440x900.

Of course, you could lower the resolution to render at 2880x1800 to get the same size of the elements as the current model but that would just upscale to the 4K display which means you will get lower details and wasted resolution.

Apple can also introduce a new HiDPI x3 like they did with the iPhone 6 Plus but that would mean that developers will need to update their apps again to support the new resolutions.
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nope, os X has scaling very well integrated, you may want to look it up.
 
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VERY well. Windows is far behind on this. Some Linux desktop environments are just a bit behind macos, but not far. Windows is dead last, unless you count OS/2...
 
ThisBougieLife said:
Yeah Windows' terrible scaling is one reason why I'm in no rush to "jump ship". We're in a post-1080p era and Windows needs to get their scaling act together...
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sitting here in front of my new precision 5510 15" and don't know what you are talking about, scaling is excellent, touchpad is excellent (when it is working and the cursor does not act on his own ...), touchscreen is excellent, ssd is much faster then every apple ssd, windows is as good as macos x

apple should really do something to make us happy again
 
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radus said:
sitting here in front of my new precision 5510 15" and don't know what you are talking about, scaling is excellent, touchpad is excellent (when it is working and the cursor does not act on his own ...), touchscreen is excellent, ssd is much faster then every apple ssd, windows is as good as macos x

apple should really do something to make us happy again
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bout that, precision 5510 15" woud be my windows alternative, how did u BTO? with Xeon or Core?
 
Arthur75 said:
nope, os X has scaling very well integrated, you may want to look it up.
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What am I missing exactly? The only scaling available in OS X is to render everything at double the resolution and downscale or upscale to match the screen. OS X doesn't even have a system wide font size setting. The original point was that UI elements will become smaller if you increase the display resolution. The only way to make them bigger again is to use a larger scaling which negates any advantage of having a higher resolution display.
 
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GubbyMan said:
What am I missing exactly? The only scaling available in OS X is to render everything at double the resolution and downscale or upscale to match the screen. OS X doesn't even have a system wide font size setting. The original point was that UI elements will become smaller if you increase the display resolution. The only way to make them bigger again is to use a larger scaling which negates any advantage of having a higher resolution display.
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what do you think scaling means?
 
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GubbyMan said:
What am I missing exactly? The only scaling available in OS X is to render everything at double the resolution and downscale or upscale to match the screen. OS X doesn't even have a system wide font size setting. The original point was that UI elements will become smaller if you increase the display resolution. The only way to make them bigger again is to use a larger scaling which negates any advantage of having a higher resolution display.
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No , OS X has a few scaling points that you can choose from, not percentages like windows, but they truly work throughout any app. And they correspond to real scaling each working on the base resolution
 
Arthur75 said:
No , OS X has a few scaling points that you can choose from, not percentages like windows, but they truly work throughout any app. And they correspond to real scaling each working on the base resolution
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You mean these?
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And the best part: It's just a slider. No registry tweaks or anything, you just go "Is this good? How about now?"
It takes you two minutes when you first get the computer, and then you never have to think about it again.
 
Meldalinn said:
bout that, precision 5510 15" woud be my windows alternative, how did u BTO? with Xeon or Core?
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i7 6820HQ, and put in: sm961 1TB nvme, sm 850pro 2TB, 32 GB Ram,

had Problems with the self-moving mouse pointer, after the last Win 10 update it seams to work very reliable,
dell has some driver and hardware problem but now it just works and very fast
[doublepost=1472073280][/doublepost]oh ... the mouse pointer problem just returned - It is a case for the dell pro service.
I will report the result, may be waiting for Apple would has been the easier way.
 
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pegamoos said:
i'm using a 15" mbp from 2010, the one with higher res screen (1680X1050).
going from this to a 2*(1440x900) would feel kind of a downgrade for me. yes, images are crisper, but i'd lose some real estate. Not to mention the 13", that with an equivalent 1280x800 feels like a toy. i don't know how the scaled resolutions look on them though.
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I have a 13" rMBP and I am using it scaled to 1680x1050. I have done so since I got it almost 3 years ago. I am very happy using it that way. However I will say that using it with the 1280x800 is, in my opinion, quite horrible. There is absolutely no screen real estate. But the scaling works very well and I am quite satisfied using it that way.
 
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