Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[GubbyMan]

No!
Is the text more blurry when you select a font size of say 20 instead of 12 in a word processing software?
no
Exactly the same here, osX uses bigger font size when you select bigger UI elements, but still uses the native resolution to its best.
Again, the scaling does not work at pixel level.

Ok, I know that images and videos do not scale at pixel level but I didn't know about text scaling like that. Do you have a source?

Anyway, that would still mean that other types of UI elements will look blurry. This is the reason in the first place why Apple had to introduce the HiDPI mode.

 

[tofagerl]

Ok, I know that images and videos do not scale at pixel level but I didn't know about text scaling like that. Do you have a source?

Anyway, that would still mean that other types of UI elements will look blurry. This is the reason in the first place why Apple had to introduce the HiDPI mode.

Do you have a retina screen?

 

[GubbyMan]

Do you have a retina screen?

I wouldn't have been here if I had one.

 

[tofagerl]

I wouldn't have been here if I had one.

I'm just saying, there is very little reason for you to argue against someone who has one.

 

[senthor]

Ok, I know that images and videos do not scale at pixel level but I didn't know about text scaling like that. Do you have a source?

Anyway, that would still mean that other types of UI elements will look blurry. This is the reason in the first place why Apple had to introduce the HiDPI mode.

Read this: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/os-x-10-8/16/#retina

 

[tofagerl]

Ah, Siracusa... I miss his reviews. I know he said he hated spending that much time on it, but I'm sure Ars would have accepted a novella review instead of a full novel.

 

[GubbyMan]

Read this: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/os-x-10-8/16/#retina

Tech nerds reading this may be recoiling in horror at the thought of running an LCD panel in a non-native resolution, but Apple has found a loophole here. Yes, scaling a large virtual screen image down to fit on a smaller screen necessarily discards information. And yes, scaling a small virtual screen image up to fill a larger screen stretches and blurs the image. But it turns out that having 220 pixels per linear inch of screen space can hide many, many sins. Though the "native" (2x) 1440x900 resolution definitely does look the best, the other resolutions don't look bad at all.

And now I'm not even sure if there is anything that is scaled at anything other than pixel level... (recoiling in horror )

I'm just saying, there is very little reason for you to argue against someone who has one.

I'm pretty sure I know more about Apple's retina displays than 99.9% of the people who own them.

Anyway, I won't spend any time arguing about this since I can't test it without having a retina display.

 

[Dydegu]

Invites today, folks.

 

[2457248]

Invites today, folks.

9am pacific time?

 

[Ty1eRRR]

3,5 Hours to go

 

[NoWayBehind]

Have you seen this one? Found it on notebookcheck today. I'm not up to date with it, so can someone tell me if this means an included skylake 100%? Not sure if I read it right.

 

[viljamip]

Have you seen this one? Found it on notebookcheck today. I'm not up to date with it, so can someone tell me if this means an included skylake 100%? Not sure if I read it right.

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I think so. 13" uses that U 2+3e one which according to that should be ready to ship in February, between weeks 6-18 of 2017. 15" uses H 4+4e which nobody has seen yet. Skylake it is.

 

[tofagerl]

I'm pretty sure I know more about Apple's retina displays than 99.9% of the people who own them.

I would put "how it looks" at more than .1% of the total knowledge possible.

 

[infinitejest]

Invites today, folks.

"Hey Siri, give us a hint."

"Sorry, I can't find Gus A. Hint in your contacts."

9am pacific time?

I don't think they wait for a specific time to send out invitations, they probably just send it out...

 

[Dydegu]

They always come at 9AM PST:

https://www.macrumors.com/2015/08/27/apple-invites-2015-iphone-event/
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/08/28/apple-event-sept-9/
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/03/apple-issues-invitations-for-september-10-media-event/
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/04/apple-issues-invitations-for-media-event-on-september-12/

 

[GubbyMan]

I would put "how it looks" at more than .1% of the total knowledge possible.

I want to test something. If you have a retina display, can you choose the leftmost scaling option with the biggest UI and take a screenshot? What is the resolution of the screenshot?

 

[vatter69]

Yep - it is absolutely outrageous what kind of steps you have to undertake to change something as simple as a ringtone, i totally agree. Apple certainly has a lot of things done right but boy some decisions (headphone anyone) are just not understandable.

 

[infinitejest]

They always come at 9AM PST:

https://www.macrumors.com/2015/08/27/apple-invites-2015-iphone-event/
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/08/28/apple-event-sept-9/
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/03/apple-issues-invitations-for-september-10-media-event/
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/04/apple-issues-invitations-for-media-event-on-september-12/

Ah wow, so they actually do

 

[Dydegu]

Ah wow, so they actually do

Yea, isn't that crazy? I never noticed until now.

 

[Exile714]

They always come at 9AM PST:

https://www.macrumors.com/2015/08/27/apple-invites-2015-iphone-event/
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/08/28/apple-event-sept-9/
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/03/apple-issues-invitations-for-september-10-media-event/
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/04/apple-issues-invitations-for-media-event-on-september-12/

Thanks for saving me some time today...

 

[tofagerl]

I want to test something. If you have a retina display, can you choose the leftmost scaling option with the biggest UI and take a screenshot? What is the resolution of the screenshot?

1024x600, then 1280x800, 1440x900, 1680x1050.
And it says so in the menu, there's no point in the screenshots. Not that I noticed that in time...

 

[WRONG]

Invites today, folks.

I still don't see them

 

[GubbyMan]

1024x600, then 1280x800, 1440x900, 1680x1050.
And it says so in the menu, there's no point in the screenshots. Not that I noticed that in time...

What? No, the screenshots should be at double the "looks like" numbers, right? If you get a screenshot of 2048x1200 it means that even text is rendered at that resolution which proves my point that it will look blurrier than normal.
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I still don't see them

75 minutes left

 

[tofagerl]

What? No, the screenshots should be at double the "looks like" numbers, right? If you get a screenshot of 2048x1200 it means that even text is rendered at that resolution which proves my point that it will look blurrier than normal.
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75 minutes left

Nope, the screen is literally rendered at that size, so of course the screenshot is the same size.

Edit: Oh, wait, the screenshot app is trying to be smart... Hold on...
[doublepost=1472137183][/doublepost]Yeah, it's 2048x1280, 2560 × 1600, 2880x1800 and 3360x2100
The little screenshot cropping arrow shows the "fake" resolution, though.

 

[BondFancy]

It's my birthday today, so we better get the goods from Apple.