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Now that the 2016 Models are out, will you buy a 2016 Model?

  • No, They increased the cost far to much. The Apple i once new loved appears to have disappeared.

    Votes: 465 36.6%
  • No, I really wanted a Kaby Lake processor, ill wait till 2017

    Votes: 325 25.6%
  • Yes, Im ordering a 2016 now, or already placed an order already.

    Votes: 482 37.9%

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if we don't get kabby lake i dang sure hope e get skylake macbooks at the least i need a new laptop for collage and im getting tired of waiting on this windows pos planning on going top end dedicated gpu 1tb ssd among other things.
 
Think of CPU generations like car brands...

General Motors (GM) has many brands (Buick, Cadillac, Chevy).

Some are budget, some are luxury, they have different performance characteristics and target applications.

So far, any KabyLake CPU's announced or released are all for lower powered machines.

You don't want a MBP with KabyLake right now... it would be much slower than a Skylake MBP. Even though the KabyLake CPU line is technically 'newer'...

A 2015 Cadillac is a better car than a 2016 Impala. Even though the 2016 is newer.
 
exactly to get a nice quad core proformance right now skylake is the way to go and kabby lake is for the low end dual core ultrabook/13 inch macbook pro. id presume just like this gen n13 was broadwell and 15 was haswell. i think it will go the same way with kaby lake and skylake.
 
No, not unless the MBA gets an update. The higher-power chips don't come out til early next year.


So, is the upcoming 13 inch Dell XPS with Kaby Lake under powered and not equivalent to the upcoming 13 inch MacBook Pro? Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but I guess I don't understand the performance difference between a 15 watt chip and a 45 watt chip.
 
So, is the upcoming 13 inch Dell XPS with Kaby Lake under powered and not equivalent to the upcoming 13 inch MacBook Pro? Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but I guess I don't understand the performance difference between a 15 watt chip and a 45 watt chip.
Yeah, pretty much.
 
So, is the upcoming 13 inch Dell XPS with Kaby Lake under powered and not equivalent to the upcoming 13 inch MacBook Pro? Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but I guess I don't understand the performance difference between a 15 watt chip and a 45 watt chip.

Underpowered and unequivocal.
 
What about the upcoming Surface Pro 5?

The Surface Pros use a 15W U-series CPU, so yes, MS could release a new one with the same i5-7200 or i7-7500 CPUs as the Dell XPS 13. However, I have seen rumors that suggest a release date in Q1 next year - maybe they want to include a 28W CPU version to compete with a new Kaby Lake MBP 13? Or possibly get a better iGPU (GT3?) which I don't think are available in the 15W Kaby Lake's yet.

What would be interesting is to see a new MacBook Air with Kaby Lake, but again this is probably waiting for the GT3 iGPU.
 
Until intel makes GT3e versions of Kaby Lake available, there will be no new macbook pro. This is likely to be early 2017, however I think there might be a chance that intel moves it up to now and for the 15in Apple just goes with H + GT2 and either Pascal GPU or Polaris
 
Those are GPUs, not CPUs...
Yes, I know, they are the integrated GPU. The CPU performance of Kaby lake is on par with Sky lake; this is the first benchmark that I know off that compares the two GPU units. If you go back to older post you will see a debate of why Kaby lake won't be used in this iteration of 13" MBP -- and it all came down to the performance of the integrated GPU. Now one can see the true power of the Kaby lake.
 
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According to http://www.pcworld.com/article/3127...-what-optimization-can-do-for-a-14nm-cpu.html

The HD620 is close to Iris 540. "In 3DMark, Kaby Lake comes in just 7 percent faster over the comparable Skylake chip"

Hmmm, seems to me it is a waste to release the 13" Macbook Pro with Skylake.

The last time I remember Apple taking this long to update its Mac lineup was just before the transition from PPC to Intel. I wonder if Apple is preparing to dump Intel and jump to AMD's SOCs? Regardless, this article makes a strong case for Apple to need to update its lineup, especially the MBP 15".

From the article: "Does it mean dump your Skylake laptop and rush out to buy a Kaby Lake laptop? No, not at all. However, when you’re looking at a 20 to 25 percent difference between Kaby Lake and Broadwell, then you start to wonder. As you get to Haswell, where it probably opens up to 30 to 35 percent, or Ivy Bridge and even Sandy Bridge, then yes, an upgrade would be a game-changer."

We're still waiting for that 'game-changer', Apple.
 
If that's a "game changer," how would one describe my upcoming migration from a C2D?

But TBH, most of us rarely max our CPU these days. Storage speed is more important, and Apple'a doing very well there.
I have an SSD (SATA II) in my 2010, but I still expect the PCI-e will make more of a day to day difference than the huge CPU jump.
 
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