You like me have the 2017 model. I have multiple 2016 verions and all of them had issues with the keyboard after 1-2 weeks. The 2017 sure have something underneath that make it more reliable
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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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Hopefully that is true, and the issue is fixed.
Just to reiterate for the record though, I have the 2017 MacBook, and not the 2017 MacBook Pro.
I think you only see it when you hold your head so your eyeline is level with the keyboard. In other words, almost never
I don't think that's true. I guess not everyone is sensitive to this kind of issue, but you can see the backlight bleeding even if you stare down on your keys right from above. The sharper the angle, the worse it gets. Personally, I find this rather distracting when working at night, usually with relatively little ambience light. So I always keep the backlight at the lowest setting or even turn it off. With the new keyboards, this is no issue at all.
It might be a little thing, but there are tons of little things like this which, in my opinion, add up to a better user experience with the latest MacBook Pro design.
Fair enough. I have only used the new one in the apple store a few times, which is not a great demo environment for a number of reasons (the height of the tables is a big one).
As an aside, my old thinkpad actually has a small light in the top bezel that illuminates the entire keyboard as well as your fingers, which I always find to be very helpful when working at night. I wonder if Apple would ever consider something like that.
Bunch of motherboards for unreleased coffee lake desktop cpus just leaked: https://wccftech.com/msi-h370-b360-h310-motherboards-leaked/
Something is happening soon. New release of chips at GDC perhaps ?
Something is happening soon. New release of chips at GDC perhaps ?
AFAIK no.
The one that has leaked with GT3e with a model number is likely 28 W. I hope that doesn't mean that April will only see GT3e U-series at 28 W, with the 15 W U-series with GT3e to come later. (15 W U-series with GT2 are already out.)
I don't think it's likely, but it was (and perhaps still is) a common business model in the "Big Iron" (mainframe) and minicomputer markets.
I'd be skeptical that the economics would work in the personal computer market, which is probably why no one has done it thus far.
Is that the 8559U?AFAIK no.
I hope that doesn't mean that April will only see GT3e U-series at 28 W, with the 15 W U-series with GT3e to come later. (15 W U-series with GT2 are already out.)
They already use 28W parts in the 13" MBP though, right? I'd be fine with 28W if they let me have it without a touchbar.
Posted my GDC prediction days ago buddy
I would believe it is more likely (and reasonable) that Apple would implement a leasing or renting model where you could swap to a different configuration when needed. Maybe something like the iPhone upgrade program.
I don't think it will happen, nowadays notebook have light sensor to adjust brightness of the screen. the design of Thinkpad would disturb the sensor, also the neat design of the hood.
A leasing model would be interesting for MacBooks/Apple Watches/etc.; it works for the iPhone so I could see Apple implement it for the rest of their yearly updated products aswell. Although I'm not sure if Mac updates are sufficiently regular and significant for users to be interested in such an offer.
Then again, I'd be happy if the iPhone Upgrade Program were to finally came into my country. No idea why Apple hasn't expanded it to the EU yet.
Posted my GDC prediction days ago buddy
Haha I think that is where I got the idea. But I agree with you it makes so much sense for them to do it that way.
Only 81 more days.
Kind of wish it was earlier but as someone who's been holding off since last fall, that seems like a wait I can manage. For hexa core CPUs and possibly fixed keyboard issues and longer battery life, it would be worth the wait.
The WWDC announcement doesn't change anything though. The WWDC always was held in early June, and it usually got announced around this time of the year. I don't think this inherently has any impact on the release of the next MacBook Pro. I still think a late March or April release is just as likely as a WWDC release.
True, but knowing the exact date gives us kind of a concrete maximum waiting time instead of the usual "a few more months at most". Anything before WWDC would be a welcome surprise but given that a post-WWDC release is very unlikely, this date now marks the end of the time period in which an announcement is expected to happen, which as someone trying to plan ahead with how long I can hold off is kind of relieving
But you're right, it doesn't change anything about the likelyhood of in which months the release is gonna happen.
That's not necessarily true. For example, the 2014 MacBook Pro was announced in July. The 2016 was October. The 2017 was at WWDC though.True, but knowing the exact date gives us kind of a concrete maximum waiting time instead of the usual "a few more months at most". Anything before WWDC would be a welcome surprise but given that a post-WWDC release is very unlikely, this date now marks the end of the time period in which an announcement is expected to happen, which as someone trying to plan ahead with how long I can hold off is kind of relieving
I'm still sticking with my Q2 or Q3 prediction (which means anywhere from April to September). I don't think we can confidently say it WILL be at WWDC, even though it COULD be.
I don't think late March is likely.
Since the ios and macos will be focusing for stability and bug free they need to fill those 2 hours so i think mbp also will be hold for wwdc
The 2016 MBP was so late though because it was a complete redesign, and even with that model, there were rumors that it was originally scheduled for a release around WWDC 2016 and it was only so late because of the issues Apple experienced with the terraced battery design and because they therefore had to backpaddle to the old battery design. I know these were just rumors but still, the 2016 was a complete redesign, this year's is expected to just be a spec bump for the most part.
If we additionally consider that the last MBP released at WWDC and that all the MBP releases since 2012 (with 2016 as an exception) happened less than 300 days after the previous release, and that Intel's new chips have leaked several times by now and are soo-to-be-released officially, then I deem it very unlikely that we won't have gotten a MBP 2018 announcement after this year's WWDC. It's not completely out of question, I'll give you that – but that's why I only called it "very unlikely" in my original post and not "impossible"
Anyhow I agree with you that late March or even April is getting very unlikely at this point. I would be happy about it but I can't really see it happening anymore.
A few points:The 2016 MBP was so late though because it was a complete redesign, and even with that model, there were rumors that it was originally scheduled for a release around WWDC 2016 and it was only so late because of the issues Apple experienced with the terraced battery design and because they therefore had to backpaddle to the old battery design. I know these were just rumors but still, the 2016 was a complete redesign, this year's is expected to just be a spec bump for the most part.
If we additionally consider that the last MBP released at WWDC and that all the MBP releases since 2012 (with 2016 as an exception) happened less than 300 days after the previous release, and that Intel's new chips have leaked several times by now and are soo-to-be-released officially, then I deem it very unlikely that we won't have gotten a MBP 2018 announcement after this year's WWDC. It's not completely out of question, I'll give you that – but that's why I only called it "very unlikely" in my original post and not "impossible"
1. Many times when a release happens after WWDC, someone claims it was supposed to have happened earlier at WWDC. However, the fact of the matter is that most of the time, the MacBook Pro is not released at WWDC. The WWDC-centered rumours are usually just idle speculation.
2. From a 10.14 developer point of view, the MacBook Pro doesn't NEED to be released at WWDC. One of the big OS upgrades I am hoping for / expecting is 4K DRM support built into the OS. This is not dependent on 2018 hardware, as the 2017 MacBooks, MacBook Pros, iMacs, and iMac Pros all support this already in hardware. The just need software support, in the form of 10.14 +/- iTunes +/- Netflix, etc.
3. I too was expecting the leaked Intel chips to be evidence of a release soon, but what concerns me is that the Intel GT3e 15 W quad parts still haven't leaked. If it really just is a spec bump, then one might expect Apple to wait for GT3e 15 W quad parts for the entry level non-Touch Bar MacBook Pros. So far, the only chips with GT3e that have leaked are likely 28+ W. These 28 W chips have previously been reserved for the Touch Bar MacBook Pros. I suppose there is a possibility though that Apple would downgrade the non-Touch Mar MBP to 15 W quad with GT2 if there are no 15 W quad parts with GT3. Alternatively they could stick with dual-core with GT3e. The latter would allow Apple to drop the non-TB pricing a bit.
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