Waiting List for New Mac Pro

[bzollinger]

I would have ordered one by now if it weren't a total rip in the shorts for what you get! Waiting and waiting, getting a little frustrated that Apple has done NOTHING!

Lower the price, or update the basic components to sweeten the deal. The SP 2.93Ghz, with 8GB RAM, and a 2TB HDD shouldn't cost me $3,498.00!!

 

[jwire4]

Waited for a while, but couldn't anymore. Just received my 8 Core Mac Pro CTO yesterday. Loving it!

 

[odinsride]

I may be depending on what they do with the GPU in the next Mac Pro/iMac. Itching to get rid of my gaming PC soon

 

[mattbatt]

waiting since G5 crapped out in late November 2009.

Using PC quad work computer for minor projects.

I could never justify such outrageous pricing for old technology. The 6 core processor is much faster, has more cache, faster memory. Heck, the older i7's compete head to head with the current MacPro quad.

 

[Icaras]

waiting since G5 crapped out in late November 2009.

Using PC quad work computer for minor projects.

I could never justify such outrageous pricing for old technology. The 6 core processor is much faster, has more cache, faster memory. Heck, the older i7's compete head to head with the current MacPro quad.

Waiting since I SOLD my G5 in APRIL of 2009. It's not a total loss for me though as I've been happy with my current Macbook Pro. But I sure could use the extra power and hard drive space.

 

[hoosker]

My old G5 is hanging on by a thread..

just one more week,

just one more week,

just one more week,

just one more week,

 

[vonMarion]

I know what you mean Hoosker,

I have a 5 year old Vaio laptop that is basically on life support now, as it has minimum battery life and serious overheating issues if not kept on a cooling pad.

It's come down to simply praying that my current computer holds off just...a....little...longer while I wait for the new Mac Pro.

 

[xgman]

My old G5 is hanging on by a thread..

just one more week,

just one more month,

just one more year,

just one more - sorry, discontinued,

 

[cohen777]

me too

I was intrigued by the March rumor release date. I thought for sure that at WWDC it would be announced and I followed the macrumors crawl about all the iphone stuff amazed that neither the Mac nor Mac OS was mentioned. I am now amazed that there is still no announcement. However, the money is in the bank and ready to purchase a new Mac Pro for blu-ray encoding and video editing.

 

[hexagonheat]

Comments like this are not "ridiculous and stupid."

Maybe you don't understand what price gouging is. Apple is making at least 200% markup on their current MP and probably even more. "But how can you know this?" you might ask. Well I can go buy IDENTICAL parts in the MP in a RETAIL store and pay RETAIL price for about 50% of the current value of the MP.

The cost of the new MP will likely be on par with the current offerings based on the current pricing of intel's chips and the history of Apple's pricing philosophy. So if in fact the new MP is say 20% faster (which is a conservative estimate), that translates into serious time for large workflows and that saves businesses serious money. By your logic you should still be using the same Mac Pro that was released 7 years ago to do your work because buying anything new is just wanting the "latest greatest".

People here are not stupid. They don't like price gouging and they don't like people telling them they are stupid for not wanting to flush thousands of dollars down the toilet for nothing.

Why? There is no technology out now that will suddenly make the 2009 Mac Pro slow and ****.

EXPENSIVE 6 core CPUs that will be added to the top end for extra £££ and maybe a GPU which if you were REALLY bothered you could buy separately.

Comments like this are ridiculous and stupid.

If you NEED a Mac Pro now BUY ONE. Waiting means your only buying it because you can afford it and want the latest and greatest, not because it has a task to perform!

And LOL at criticising a website giving you AN OPINION. Do you spend £2k+ on a computer without doing research first!? If so you would know what possible configurations could appear and what they may cost.

The amount of utter ridiculous rubbish posted on this site is astounding.

Personally I couldn't care if it is updated now or in a years time when there may be something new out and worth changing to!

 

[xgman]

I am also amazed that there have been no recent, hints, leaks or news of any sort about Mac Pro. Someone should be able to glean some basic generalized info on what is going on here and post it anonymously. So maybe nothing is going on and that's the problem. I sure hope not. In any case I find it unsettling and quite strange.

 

[mattbatt]

Waiting since I SOLD my G5 in APRIL of 2009. It's not a total loss for me though as I've been happy with my current Macbook Pro. But I sure could use the extra power and hard drive space.

Well that is cool, I wish I would of sold my G5. I wish it were alive. Alas, I was offered $106 from sellyourmac.com Maybe I should keep my G5 and use it for office decoration or create some Dada esq art out of it. . .

 

[Icaras]

Why? There is no technology out now that will suddenly make the 2009 Mac Pro slow and ****.

EXPENSIVE 6 core CPUs that will be added to the top end for extra £££ and maybe a GPU which if you were REALLY bothered you could buy separately.

Comments like this are ridiculous and stupid.

If you NEED a Mac Pro now BUY ONE. Waiting means your only buying it because you can afford it and want the latest and greatest, not because it has a task to perform!

And LOL at criticising a website giving you AN OPINION. Do you spend £2k+ on a computer without doing research first!? If so you would know what possible configurations could appear and what they may cost.

The amount of utter ridiculous rubbish posted on this site is astounding.

Personally I couldn't care if it is updated now or in a years time when there may be something new out and worth changing to!

I understand your opinion and also agree that if you do need a machine like the Mac Pro now, then there really is little excuse not to buy, but really there is no need to defend Apple for what they are blatantly doing, and that is charging 16 month old prices on last year's technology. You can't ignore the fact that Apple is in competition with other PC companies, and when stacked against these other manufacturers, the value of the current MP is almost completely diminished, if it weren't for the fact that some users are tied to OSX due to specific software needs.

 

[jjahshik32]

Why? There is no technology out now that will suddenly make the 2009 Mac Pro slow and ****.

EXPENSIVE 6 core CPUs that will be added to the top end for extra £££ and maybe a GPU which if you were REALLY bothered you could buy separately.

Comments like this are ridiculous and stupid.

If you NEED a Mac Pro now BUY ONE. Waiting means your only buying it because you can afford it and want the latest and greatest, not because it has a task to perform!

And LOL at criticising a website giving you AN OPINION. Do you spend £2k+ on a computer without doing research first!? If so you would know what possible configurations could appear and what they may cost.

The amount of utter ridiculous rubbish posted on this site is astounding.

Personally I couldn't care if it is updated now or in a years time when there may be something new out and worth changing to!

Your argument is valid and I agree to a certain point (where if you absolutely need it RIGHT NOW) but if you can wait then you should wait because paying for the current Mac Pro models right now is paying of majorly outdated equipment.

 

[20eman]

I'm not in the market for a new Mac Pro... but I'm still eagerly awaiting a new Mac/PC GPU. My HD 4870 is not going to cut it for much longer, especially if I buy a 2560x1600 display anytime soon. There's not much point in upgrading to a GTX 285 anymore. I don't expect a dual-GPU miracle... but I think an HD 5870 or a GTX 480 would be eminently reasonable.

 

[Aldaris]

I need the upgradability, if there was a deal struck with ATI/nVidia, to have a custom card design to slide into the iMac (obviously huge co-op with apple). Then a lot of semi-pro, prosumers that buy MacPro would go high end iMac.

If they were to toss in a price break or spec bumps (memory anyone?) I'd buy now.

I'm getting close to the iMac just for the overall price for what you get, and then a Mac Pro later on when they update it (in a year or so) and then use the iMac for display...

Choices choices...

After playin the game since march, and having the funds in the bank since April, I say buy if you want, wait if you want let's drop this "you're not a pro you don't need it, you don't know what to do with that power..."

Its just where we are at in the Mac Pro realm. Deal with it and be civil.

 

[Inconsequential]

I understand your opinion and also agree that if you do need a machine like the Mac Pro now, then there really is little excuse not to buy, but really there is no need to defend Apple for what they are blatantly doing, and that is charging 16 month old prices on last year's technology. You can't ignore the fact that Apple is in competition with other PC companies, and when stacked against these other manufacturers, the value of the current MP is almost completely diminished, if it weren't for the fact that some users are tied to OSX due to specific software needs.

I agree, it sucks Apple keeps the prices up, but then again it doesn't, as the value of my Mac Pro doesn't drop as quickly so actually overall this fact doesn't really matter...

I've been watching ebay for the price of my Mac Pro, first few months after launch showed the biggest drop but since then it's been going down very, very slowly, I mean £20 a month kind of depreciation, which for me is ridiculously good, bad for new purchasers, but good for me!

As for competition, the equivalent Dell is roughly the same price as what I paid for my Mac Pro in April 2009. (Difference is that it has a 5xxx generation GPU instead of a 4870 - which for a non-gaming machine is a rather minor point).

Mac Pro: £2145
Dell: £2045

I know which one i'd rather have.

So actually it's still pretty competitive with other manufacturers.

Comments like this are not "ridiculous and stupid."

Maybe you don't understand what price gouging is. Apple is making at least 200% markup on their current MP and probably even more. "But how can you know this?" you might ask. Well I can go buy IDENTICAL parts in the MP in a RETAIL store and pay RETAIL price for about 50% of the current value of the MP.

The cost of the new MP will likely be on par with the current offerings based on the current pricing of intel's chips and the history of Apple's pricing philosophy. So if in fact the new MP is say 20% faster (which is a conservative estimate), that translates into serious time for large workflows and that saves businesses serious money. By your logic you should still be using the same Mac Pro that was released 7 years ago to do your work because buying anything new is just wanting the "latest greatest".

People here are not stupid. They don't like price gouging and they don't like people telling them they are stupid for not wanting to flush thousands of dollars down the toilet for nothing.

Thanks for bringing this up. As guess what? I come from a overclocking build it yourself background, I very VERY nearly bought a hackintosh instead. I'm not stupid with money, I did my research (spent 3 months, actually), did my homework and yet I still bought a Mac Pro for twice as much as a self build. Why? I didn't want the hassle. OS X is a very, very powerful selling point for me.

Audio problem was a right pain in the backside but now it's fixed it's been running PERFECTLY since, I couldn't care less my WORKSTATION CLASS computer is more expensive than a self build computer because other manufacturers cost give or take the same thing (see above - wow, what a difference!?!)

Are you having a go at dell/HP/etc for costing twice as much as you could build yourself? I'd agree with you if other PC manufacturers were costing far less, fact is they are not...

 

[Murray M]

present

 

[chaosbunny]

Are you having a go at dell/HP/etc for costing twice as much as you could build yourself? I'd agree with you if other PC manufacturers were costing far less, fact is they are not...

But fact is they are. Processor wise I agree with you, but for the amount of money that a base Mac Pro costs you'll get similar pcs with ATI 5870 gfx chips, 6-8 gb ram, 1-2 1 tb hds etc... adding these to a base Mac Pro quickly brings its price above 3000 bucks. And if you go from a Xeon to an i7 (which, in a single processor configuration, makes little to no difference) you can get such a system with the above addons for around 1500 €, where the Mac Pro starts at 2300 € and will reach 3000 € with these extras.

 

[Jaxdialation]

I will wait, my new MBPs have me sufficiently productive.

However I will only willing to pay a small premium over the Market value
of the main components. I am highly dependent on a few key applications.
They all run very well on a PC. I can make the Adobe suite dance on either platform.

Web browsing, email, music, MS Office docs - who cares, net books run these

I'd love to own a Pro, but the new rev will have to be uncharacteristically feature, function and price positioned to make me bother.

 

[peakchua]

+1`

 

[reebzor]

I assume by the time New Mac Pro's are out, I'll be a millionaire. My flying pig and I will have to take a break from our snowball fights in hell to go over to the apple store to pick one up.

 

[Toaster Boy]

I'm waiting...barely.

My current machine...

A Dual 800 G4 PowerMac. The 2001 model. Bought when announced.

Yes, it still works. Yes, it's still productive.

And before you laugh too hard at this antique, let me just say the machine has been a beast. I've produced 12 albums, 4 podcasts (one of which is currently featured in Apple's 5 years of podcasting section and one for a major entertainment company), I've also done productions done work for Cinematic Titanic on it and had it for general computing tasks since 2001.

Though this one still works, I'm in need of an upgrade. Was actually at the Apple Store last night and was about to buy a new one, but I just have that nagging that an update could be coming.

I just want a machine that will last me AS long as this one did. 9 years in August. I'd say that's pretty good.

So I wait....

 

[ValSalva]

I assume by the time New Mac Pro's are out, I'll be a millionaire. My flying pig and I will have to take a break from our snowball fights in hell to go over to the apple store to pick one up.

Don't piss off the pig because you will probably be the last man on earth

 

[Inconsequential]

But fact is they are. Processor wise I agree with you, but for the amount of money that a base Mac Pro costs you'll get similar pcs with ATI 5870 gfx chips, 6-8 gb ram, 1-2 1 tb hds etc... adding these to a base Mac Pro quickly brings its price above 3000 bucks. And if you go from a Xeon to an i7 (which, in a single processor configuration, makes little to no difference) you can get such a system with the above addons for around 1500 €, where the Mac Pro starts at 2300 € and will reach 3000 € with these extras.

No, they are not. I'm talking WORKSTATIONs here, not 'desktops'. People forget this is a workstation class computer, and hence gets a price like one. Always has been the case, always will be. Thats why people call for a xMac which uses desktop components (i7 instead of Xeon), etc which would knock £500 off the price, maybe more.

My Mac Pro: £2145
Go and custom config a Dell workstation and you get £2045 give or take.
Go and custom config a HP workstation and you get around £1700.


Moving on... Top end octo 2.93Ghz Mac Pro: £5368
Custom Dell: £4650

So moving up the ladder creates a larger difference in price but either way, at the start the difference isn't that great.

Custom build from parts (for my spec Mac Pro): £1500 (can be less depending on parts, but if I went this way NOW i'd get a decent X58 mobo, 5870, decent Lian Li case, etc. - This doesn't include HD, fans, bluetooth and all the silly little parts you need). Not to mention no 3 year warranty, hassle of fault finding if it goes wrong, etc.

For arguments sake lets say the difference between a decent overclocking computer and my Mac Pro is £650. Now this £650 is only worth it to people who rank OS X and the build quality of the Mac Pro. I do. Would I buy a 2009 Mac Pro again? Yes.

People are complaining that technology has moved on and that the prices haven't dropped, well it hasn't really apart from the CPU and GPU which cost more than the equiv 4 core chips (2.66GHz 6 core XEON = £800 - 4 core = £250ish).

If you NEED 6 cores you buy the 8 core mac pro, if you need 12 cores you wait.

My argument is getting a little messy here but the facts of the Mac Pro upgrade coming are this:

1. CPU choice: Either 6 core chips are going to be added CTO with no change in the rest of the line along with a slight price drop to reflect the reduction in costs of components OR the price will stay the same and all the CPUs get shifted down one. Eg Base Mac Pro will be 2.93Ghz and the top CTO will be the 3.33Ghz 6 core chips. Architecture changes? NONE - As there isn't one to move to!

2. GPU choice: Easy, whatever the low end nVidia is now of the GT120 and a 5870.

3. Rest of system: Maybe space for SSDs, unlikely to add more HD bays, bluetooth may change position.


Waiting will get you a 2010 system, will it be worth the wait? Probably not for the people at the bottom end...

Besides if it really bothers you find one of the many still-in-warranty 2009 Mac Pros on ebay for a cheaper option, then you get more for your money!