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Like I said, processor wise I agree with you. But again, it's in the ram, hd and gfx card department where the current Mac Pro seriously lacks behind - something you didn't even mention in your post, maybe since it simply can not be defended.

I'm also more concerned about the single processor Mac Pros. What a wonderful workstation with a maximum of 16 gb ram. And again, you basically don't gain anything from that Xeon over an i7 in there.
 
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I agree with a large portion of this.

What really is there to go to right now? There is the 6/12 Core scenario, but thats just about it... It might be nice to have dedicated OS SSD, but thats in another thread...

I think the majority of us that are waiting need either:

-Workstation Power
-Expandability/Upgradability

Like the fellow using his 9 year Power Mac, he's not the only one, a portion of the Pro Desktop/Workstation buying base are people who need/want there machines to last... I know some businesses and studios, upgrade on a rotation because of their budget, but for the independent/hobbyist/bang for the buck/and hey is that a Mac Pro or are you just happy to see me crowd, We'll wait, and voice our waiting.

When the transition to the G5 came about Apple still had a large inventory of G4, buyers mostly bought for the ability to dual boot to 9 if they needed too, it also brought prices down for the G4 models. A large part of the 'cost' issue is that after having the same CTO and spec options for over a year (over 400+ days), a portion of those upgrades are wanting a break on something, a hundred dollar price cut, boost in stock memory, stock hard drive space, or maybe they are going the way of the iPhone 4 crowd and want a free bumper with every Mac Pro purchase...

Point is they want something...

But what is there really at the moment?
 
Hey, you greatly summed up my feelings about this. :)

I'd want 6gb ram and the ability to upgrade to 32 gb over time, a 1 tb hd and a gfx card that doesn't suck for 2500-2800 €. I don't think that's too much to ask for.

That sounds good. It doesn't seem like too much to ask for to me.
 
Hey, you greatly summed up my feelings about this. :)

I'd want 6gb ram and the ability to upgrade to 32 gb over time, a 1 tb hd and a gfx card that doesn't suck for 2500-2800 €. I don't think that's too much to ask for.

+1

If those basic parts were upgraded I'd buy today. Oh and I don't want to have to pay and extra $400 to go from 2.66GHz to 2.93GHz. $400 is a lot for a .27GHz increase. Furthermore a $1200 increase to go to a 3.33GHz??? What a rip!
 
Wonder what Apple has planned now that Sandy Bridge is only 3-4 months away...

If any of this is true, could it not be possible Apple has been planning for this all along and has negotiated to have these before anyone else? Maybe even for a late 2010 mac pro update? It seems to me they might be skipping the current Xeons for the 2010 update since, for starters, they were not the first out the door with them like they were with past updates. Maybe they knew something about this Sandy Bridge timeline some time ago? It seems Apple's style to find a way to be first with something when they roll out a big update on something like the mac pro. If they go with the current Xeons released earlier this year they will only be playing catch-up with the entire market at this point. I'm just guessing. Maybe its wishful thinking. I know nothing about how they make these things. I just use them.
 
Hey, you greatly summed up my feelings about this. :)

I'd want 6gb ram and the ability to upgrade to 32 gb over time, a 1 tb hd and a gfx card that doesn't suck for 2500-2800 €. I don't think that's too much to ask for.

Thats what I paid for my Mac Pro in sig.

You wouldn't use 32Gb in a quad machine TBH, processor would die a LONG time before that, besides 16Gb is possible using 4Gb sticks but probably cheaper buying a octo and shoving 2Gb sticks in!

If Sandy Bridge is 4 months away, thats when you will see a new Mac Pro (6 core chips may be a silent bump).

Also the 4870 certainly does not suck. It's a generation behind yes but then again this isn't a gaming rig and a small %age of buyers would actually use it for that task...

Either way looks like the 2009 Mac Pro was a nice buy for me in longevity terms and Sandy Bridge will be added to the Late 2010 Mac Pro.
 
this.

I'm in the exact same boat.

yeah it sucks ey...

Like some other people said...
Just a few basic upgrades and i'm buying today as well...

-better gfx card.
-cheaper/better/more upgradeable RAM.
-More HD

that's fine for me...
 
I'm waiting

My trusty old pre-Intel 17" PowerBook is getting me by, but having to freeze tracks all the time in Logic to get work done is getting tiresome.

I'm hoping a Tuesday in July will bring some Mac Pro grooviness.
 
+1 from me here too. (could even be 2 or 3)

Mr Jobs, you better be planning something special, if not.... YAWN you are starting to bore us.
 
Wonder what Apple has planned now that Sandy Bridge is only 3-4 months away...

http://hothardware.com/News/Intels-Sandy-Bridge-AVX-Extensions-On-Track-For-Q4-2010/

My guess is they will have a refresh with slight bump within two weeks and then another refresh with Sandy Bridge early next year OR they are going to wait until late this year for a full refresh with Sandy Bridge. Thoughts?

I met somebody who said they had a 12nm node facility. We asked him where he was hiding it. Perhaps on the moon?

Then again, nobody believes me when I tell them I have a microchip that runs at 50 GHz.

Back to the relevant things, if Sandy Bridge is due for Q4, it would make sense that Apple is waiting this long. It's a pain, but at least "just wait" makes sense. While Sandy Bridge isn't that much of a leap up from what's available now, it certainly is a big leap from last year's Mac Pro models. I'd like to take this as a sign that Apple is thinking about the long term instead of just trying to quickly make a sale.
 
I'd like to take this as a sign that Apple is thinking about the long term instead of just trying to quickly make a sale.

It must also mean that there will be no 2010 Mac Pro. Wouldn't the earliest a Sandy Bridge Mac Pro release be in January 2011?
 
It must also mean that there will be no 2010 Mac Pro. Wouldn't the earliest a Sandy Bridge Mac Pro release be in January 2011?

I think they may still update this year. I cant see them doing a Jan update - wouldn't it be more likely that they do an update now, then a major refresh next year once the iHype is over?
 
I think they may still update this year. I cant see them doing a Jan update - wouldn't it be more likely that they do an update now, then a major refresh next year once the iHype is over?

The update 'now' is what we've been waiting for since March - at the very least :rolleyes:

Your thinking makes sense to me but who knows what they have planned in Cupertino.
 
Wonder what Apple has planned now that Sandy Bridge is only 3-4 months away...

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Lets see, 3-4 months, that would place that Mac Pro version about 3 to 4 years away by my calculations. :rolleyes:

Does Apple ever release anything the Tues after a holiday?
 
This is the closest thing to a rumor I have seen lately. I'll take it as good news for what it is worth:

"New firmware discoveries in Apple's latest Mac mini suggest future Mac desktops will house Radeon HD 5000 and GeForce 400 series graphics cards.

The portion regarding ATI's future Mac desktop offerings is not very specific, but the NVIDIA side of things is. "GeForce 480" is specifically named and this can be seen in the screenshot below. (not copied here)

Where these chips will be used is not specified, but makes sense that we will see these powerful GPUs in upcoming iMacs and Mac Pros very soon."

story link:
http://9to5mac.com/node/19046?utm_s...+Intelligence)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher


By the way, a GTX 480 would likely need a larger power supply that the current mac pros have. I would actually prefer the ATI 5xxxx in my next MP.
 
Can confirm +4 now.

Work

Me (car loan paid in next few months so shall be treating my self to phillips 21:9 tv and twin screen MP)

Sister Does sub work for independent studios mainly dealing for the BBC

Cousin short film editor

So all four are waiting for 'editing' spec Mac Pro's. It's more the lack of update on 30" ACD and will it won't it have/support Blu-Ry than the MP itself that's holding them up.

If a new screen was and a price drop on the MP was announced then I could be tempted to buy now rather than wait. Am getting seriously bored waiting.
 
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