Yeah that's pretty awesome. Like a free upgrade from SMS to something even better. Being able to talk to iPads and iPod Touches is pretty nice too. About half the ppl I talk to on a regular basis have iPads or iPhones so not having to keep switching between phone and iPad is gonna be nice.
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Yeah that's pretty awesome. Like a free upgrade from SMS to something even better. Being able to talk to iPads and iPod Touches is pretty nice too. About half the ppl I talk to on a regular basis have iPads or iPhones so not having to keep switching between phone and iPad is gonna be nice.
I don't know what I'd call it. If I come up with something I'll apply to Apple. LOL
I think what Apple really needs to add in imessage is an alert if someone is texting while being spoken to. It could be an alert reminding the person to have good imanners.
His point is that you are paying $20 a month for something that realistically costs the provider pennies a month in support. An SMS is a fraction of a MB, if not a kB. It's the easiest money a comm company can make.
did i miss the part where jobs said this was never before seen functionality? cuz i only saw the part where they introduced a feature new to iOS.
Well, it seems to me that that's where things are headed (A better Chrome). Like I said, iCloud is great today, but I don't want to have to rely on the cloud only, but unfortunately that what will happen.
It may make user's life easy, but on the technical side not so much, and that affects me.
International GOODNESS
This is great for iOS users across the globe, international SMS is too costly.
Plus this is just the iOS unity we might need, Blackberry Messenger now has an iOS counterpart.
This is great for iOS users across the globe, international SMS is too costly.
Plus this is just the iOS unity we might need, Blackberry Messenger now has an iOS counterpart.
Not so unlikely at all. In fact, I found myself in that very situation this weekend. I was at a large music festival, and the large number of people was overloading the tower, even though I had full bars. My internet connection was barely there at all, and it was far too loud to make a phone call. But SMS was working like a champ.
So, to reiterate the question... can we force it to send SMS, even to other iOS 5 devices?
Every single text messaging plan might not be costly, but the overwhelming majority of them are. Carriers grossly overcharge for a service that costs them almost nothing.
It's interesting that the carriers didn't know about this until we did. I'm sure they weren't happy!
This is nice. Eventhough my carrier is just awesome already (15 for 1000 messages to anyone, 1000 to the same carrier, 2GB free data (these last only for a month, but they still haven't charged me anything for my data, and the "free" part expired more then a month ago) and then you can still use the 15 to call), this will be a nice addition. Now I just need friends 
Can't believe they changed the send button to green in the messaging app
I can't believe this thing came out in 2007 and we still can't change the bubble color. I jailbroke my phone back in the day solely to get blue bubbles as opposed to green. Why is that so challenging when you could have it in 2007?
Can't believe they changed the send button to green in the messaging app
The green is there to remind you that the carriers are raping your hard earned green dollars when you text over their SMS service. The blue is on Apple's service to let you know everything's cool.
AT&T charges me $20 monthly for unlimited texting and $15 monthly for 200mb of data.
Most of the time my phone is on WiFi due to AT&T having poor service. I am very lucky to get 1 bar at times.
Just need more friends with iPhones and iPod Touches now...
Most of the time my phone is on WiFi due to AT&T having poor service. I am very lucky to get 1 bar at times.
Just need more friends with iPhones and iPod Touches now...
But getting a family unlimited text message plan is cheaper then a family unlimited data plan...
I really like the idea, but iPhones are ubiquitous to the point where I could get rid of my texting plan entirely
if you buy the unlimited. if you dont, the ala carte price of texts (.20 now?) adds up. its a scam by the telecom to encourage you to give them another twenty spot each month. (even tho your "unlimited" data plan is $30, practically the same amount)
This just occurred to me, what if I have an iPad and a Blackberry (or any other non-iOS phone)? My iPhone-using friend tries texting (iMessaging) me, I'm not by my iPad and the iMessage goes to it. I wouldn't know he tried contacting me until I open my iPad.
The nice thing about BBM is that it is a separate app; with the Messgages/iMessage integration, I would assume it would always default to iMessage.
The person texting/iMessgaing would have to know what kind of phone you have before hand to select if they wanted it to be SMS or iMessage.
The nice thing about BBM is that it is a separate app; with the Messgages/iMessage integration, I would assume it would always default to iMessage.
The person texting/iMessgaing would have to know what kind of phone you have before hand to select if they wanted it to be SMS or iMessage.
BBM has been around for years and is fantastic. This is a great addition to iOS and hopefully more reliable than the third party applications that do the same thing. I don't however like the fact that anyone can send me an iMessage. I prefer RIM's design, where you have to accept a friend on BBM before they can message you. There are few people that I want sending me messages that show I have read them. Work colleagues for example, should not know whether I have checked a message until I chose to reply at a convenient time.
Good point. You may have data connection available, but sometimes its so loaded its useless. I want to believe that apple will definitely give you an option under settings, but I'm not sure if the option will be limited to having imessages completely on or completely off.
And no one gives a damn about that. Apple finally realised that people are free to use their data (that they already paid for) as they please. iMessage is just that.
text messages aren't costly?
to those who say texts aren't expensive, relatively the are the most expensive service the carriers offer and are the best and make the most money for the smallest cost. it costs the carriers roughly 0.3 cents per text message sent and they charge us what 15-20 cent per text to me that is one heck of a profit margin. even the amount the charge for texts in contracts is high.
to those who say texts aren't expensive, relatively the are the most expensive service the carriers offer and are the best and make the most money for the smallest cost. it costs the carriers roughly 0.3 cents per text message sent and they charge us what 15-20 cent per text to me that is one heck of a profit margin. even the amount the charge for texts in contracts is high.
That's pretty neat. I'm not sure if I'd downgrade from my $30 unlimited plan because I text plenty of people without iPhones.
You don't need unlimited data for IMs though.
I can't believe that some people think texting is anything but a scam in the current market. If everyone used IM instead of texting, there'd be no need for texting plans and the increase in data usage wouldn't even be noticeable.
I wish Google, Apple, and RIM would collaborate on a single iMessage/BBM standard since people can't seem to figure out how to avoid handing over wads of cash for texting on their own. Texting is pure profit for the carriers.