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strange, i dont have those problems w/ my iOS devices, including iphone5. what are you doing to your gear??

and i love the new Maps app. lovely to use, sips far less data.

apple is still delighting me, the customer, which is their job. now more so than ever (i started on an Apple ][e). keep up the good work!

I'm going purely on what people have told me, I've read on these forums, on the news, on Facebook and on various other websites.

I don't have any of these problems either, but that's because I ditched iOS earlier this year.
 
I've been waiting for this for such a long time, already saved up and planning for a nice long wait outside an Apple Store :D For a student this is the perfect iPad: inexpensive, portable, and still an iPad.

My only concern is the processor, A5X would be nice, I don't want to see the iPad mini go unsupported by apps and games for a couple years.
 
Even if it happens, it's not going to happen. Millions of people will buy an iPad Mini for $300 (or whatever), and once they unbox it, they'll realize it's a regular full-size Retina iPad, and they actually spent $500. It will turn out to be some sort of mass hypnosis induced by Tim Cook, but everyone will love their full-size iPads so much that nobody will complain or ask for their money back.

You're crediting Cook with more psychotic …uh, I mean psychic… powers than even Jobs was supposed to have.
 
.....This is, after all, the Apple we've all come to know and love...

Glad to hear you still 'love' APPLE. ;)

Apple is more than happy to take your $500+ for the Retina model. In fact... that might be a tactic:
$300 gets you in the store for an iPad Mini
$400 gets you a bigger iPad 2
$500 gets you the beautiful Retina screen

A plausible scenario.
 
Great size for my kids. They have the vision to deal with the smaller screen, but desire something bigger than their touch. With the deep App library of games, this will be a perfect alternative to PSPs and Gameboys, with far more functionality.

Maybe too much functionality... with a price higher than justified for a kids' device.

We'll see...
 
Why no Retina? If this is true there is for sure not a chance I'm going to buy it.
As they say: "Once you go Retina, you never go back".

The display is what the Ipad is all about. I hope these rumors will turn out false since I can't see Apple go back to a lower resolution. What's the reason?

The only reason would be they want to charge around $199 for a 16GB model (knowing Apple, I'm doubtful the price would be that low). If they charge more, people will expect and demand a retina display. A lot of people are used to the better looking retina displays and won't be happy going back to a larger 3GS display.
 
Guys the ipad mini is coming, and the price will start at $249 if not at $299.

The new ipod touch starts at $299 but its a 32GB model, meant for music and videos, people with ipads at least ME dont care much about saved music or movies I stream 100% and the ipad mini I bet you will start at $299 with 8GB maybe 16GB.

People who have ipads, use it more for surfing the internet. at least people I know care less about having a lot space on it for their movies or music.

And as far as the display goes, there is a lot of 7" -8" PC monitors used on car pc's with higher resolutions than 1024x768 available in the market, 1024x768 resolution on a 10" ipad may not look so nice, but squeeze those pixels on a 7.85" screen and you will be have a "retina display".

I will sell my ipad 3 and get an ipad mini in a heart beat and more if it comes with 4g option.
 
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Make it happen. I might even buy some universal/HD apps for my iPhone 5 in anticipation of actually getting an iPad soon, now that it might just have a sensible size option!
 
I'm just glad to see somebody on this forum finally able to spell lightning. It's sort of embarrassing.

Now maybe ill embarrass myself: an earlier, lengthy post in this thread, about future USB 2.0 and 3.0-compatible lightning cables, confused me. If 3.0 is backward compatible, wouldn't the cables be one and the same? Or are the 2.0 and 3.0 physically different ports? Would someone elaborate? Thanks.

USB 3.0 has nine pins, while USB 2.0 only has four.

Full size USB 3.0 connectors have two rows of pins: the four visible at the edge of the plug, and a second group of five at the back of the plug. The socket is the other way around.

USB 3.0 initially communicates using the USB 2.0 data pins, and negotiates the use of the new pins for superspeed data transfer. If either device does not support USB 3.0 then communication will be limited to USB 2.0 speeds, and the extra pins are unused.

End result is that USB 2.0 peripherals work in a USB 3.0 port, and USB 3.0 peripherals work in a USB 2.0 port (but are limited to USB 2.0 speeds).

(For Micro-USB, the Micro-USB 3.0 connector is wider, with part of the connector compatible with Micro-USB 2.0, and the new pins added in a separate group alongside. A Micro-USB 2.0 plug can fit into the appropriate half of the Micro-USB 3.0 socket, but a Micro-USB 3.0 plug will not fit in a Micro-USB 2.0 socket.)

Existing lightning cables only have the USB 2.0 pins, but if future devices with the lightning port add support for USB 3.0, Apple can start supplying lightning to USB 3.0 cables instead of the existing lighting to USB 2.0 ones.

Lightning to USB 3.0 cables will be compatible with older devices like the iPhone 5. Assuming the iPhone 5 doesn't secretly support USB 3.0, they will behave just like USB 2.0 cables and the extra pins will be ignored.

Future devices will be able to identify whether the cable plugged into the lightning port is USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 (thanks to the chip in the cable), and will adjust their behaviour accordingly.
 
Apple: DO NOT DUMB DOWN THE MINI IPAD!!

I want basically a iPhone with a large screen that will fit in my cargo pants pocket like the Kindle Fire HD does! I can use it 6 or 7 days a week if I had a big screen that fit in my cargo pockets.
The KF HD is not even close in functionality of my 4S in any way.
The 4s screen is toooo f ing small!!!!! I want a big screen that takes much less effort to read and works better as a GPS in the car!
I may have to get the new Samsung Galaxy NOTE instead. What do you guys know about the NOTE? or Nexus 7?
I just bought the KF HD and it cost too much to buy all the apps to do what I want and is too slow.
I think I need the Apple OS, and apps along with podcast.
 
if you want a "smaller tablet", you might not want a "slightly smaller tablet"

I want basically a iPhone with a large screen that will fit in my cargo pants pocket like the Kindle Fire HD does!

I also put my Nexus 7 in cargo pants pockets.

But, since the MiniPad is rumoured to have a 7.9" 4x3 screen, it may be too wide to fit in the pocket.

...and also too wide to hold in one hand.

I hope that the rumours of 7.9" 4x3 are wrong, if people are looking for a smaller tablet the 7" widescreen is a sweet form factor.

...and the 7" 1280x800 display on the Nexus 7 has 1M pixels - a 7.9" 1024x768 display would only have 786K pixels. Bigger screen, fewer pixels.
 
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Ahh, memories. Many years ago I hung out on Star Wars message boards talking about the upcoming prequel. One day, Lucasfilm announced that the title would be "The Phantom Menace".

"Nope", said some people, "that's not the title. It's a working title... smoke screen stuff... just wait and see."

George Lucas reassured the media that this was in fact the title, several times. It did nothing to convince the naysayers, of course.

Eventually full length trailer came out, with the legend "Episode I - The Phantom Menace" at the end, matching the title on the posters.

"Nope", said a few naysayers, "we can't be sure it's the title. It can still change."

Then all the merchandise and eventually the movie itself came out. The naysayers vanished without a trace. For many years I wondered where they all went. I mean, so much collective obnoxious stubbornness is a lot of energy, and energy doesn't die, it transforms.

One day, I found them. They were all hanging out at MacRumors, dismissing real photos of real prototypes and/or upcoming products, scoffing "Not happening. Too un-Apple", "bad Photoshop job" and "Apple would never..."
 
I would be very interested in the Mini. I have a kindle fire HD, but would love to try the mini out and see if its an upgrade or not.
 
I'm curious if they will dip to $199 or will they land at $249 for the starting MSRP.

Why do people keep thinking this will cost less than an iPod touch? Why do they keep thinking this of all apple products will be the first to be reasonably priced?

No, you're going to have to convince yourself you need another iOS device to fit your needs between the iPhone and ipad at a price that hurts just enough to give apple their margin, but not enough that you won't buy it. And in 6 months you'll have to read about the upcoming new version that has the one feature you really wanted in this one.

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But the iPad 2 already sells at $399, therefor it has to cost less.

It does not have to cost less. This is the new hotness. The iPad 2 is old and busted. Apple will market this as an improvement, not a step backward.
 
I hope its true, however I don't see it being able to compete with the Kindle HD and Nexus 7. Specs wise it will probably be A5 or possible A6 iphone and without a retina screen (so they can update it later to a retina to get you again).

I just don't see how they will price this competitively. The new iPODS cost more than nexus 7 and Kindle HD's. Apple is going to charge 399 for this thing pricing it out of my Kids holiday range.

Ok I will buy that argument however at what price? Apple loves to charge more and they may just price themselves out. a $299 would have been perfect.. but with the iPODS at $299.99 they will be dead between that and a full iPad.

I don't know why you keep bringing up iPODS

The new iPod Touch at $299 is the top-of-the-line iPod.

The iPad Mini at $299 would be the entry-level iPad.

And let's not forget that they are two different devices with different form-factors. Who cares if they cost the same?

If you want a pocket-sized multimedia device... you won't be buying a tablet... and vice-versa.

Both products will co-exist.
 
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