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Hey, who wants to chip in so we can get $5000, pay someone to repeatedly download Zynga apps on the App Store, and have Apple remove it because it got promoted? :D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Yeah, I feel ya. I spend way more time setting up & tweaking my phone than actually using it.

See, I'm old enough at this point that life is too short to have to get on that particular treadmill. I have a couple of other friends that do the jailbreak thing, and they're forever extolling the virtues of the extra stuff they can do.

I have a MiFi 4510L at the moment, so I have an LTE hotspot. It'd be worth it to replace it with an iPad 3 with LTE and hotspot capabilities. But the value proposition drops below acceptability if I now have to jump through a bunch of extra ridiculous hoops.
 
We'll see. I know for a fact that the bottleneck is at the copper going to the stations, not the air, in crowded areas.

Also, just think about it. Anything that you would need to have faster bandwidth for is probably not something you should be loading on cellular data. If I go to an area where I get that kind of bandwidth, I'd waste my monthly plan in 10 seconds at 40mbps if I just load a video or something by accident.

It doesn't speed up your receiving of text-based data like those idiotic AT&T ads suggest. OMG, THAT WAS SO 30 SECONDS AGO. It takes you 30 seconds extra on 3G to load a kilobyte of data? Nope.

All of ATTs LTE towers have fiber backhaul now. Also, LTE has AMAZING latencies. Ping rates in the 50ms range vs. 100-150ms for HSPA+. It feels like Wifi even when you're just browsing.
 
All of ATTs LTE towers have fiber backhaul now. Also, LTE has AMAZING latencies. Ping rates in the 50ms range vs. 100-150ms for HSPA+. It feels like Wifi even when you're just browsing.

That's what i've heard from Sprint reps. 4G feels like Wifi and that's a good thing. :)
 
Then Apple sued them :D
Ultimate strategy.

Actually they didn't. They tech crime force or w/e it's called, which apple started no less, were the ones who busted down Chen's door and went through his stuff. Supposedly.
 
All of ATTs LTE towers have fiber backhaul now. Also, LTE has AMAZING latencies. Ping rates in the 50ms range vs. 100-150ms for HSPA+. It feels like Wifi even when you're just browsing.

Isn't LTE just the air transmission, not the towers? I thought it was just on a different frequency and faster, not referring to better cell tower wired connections.
 
Hopefully this means a LTE in the iPhone 5. That's what we think it's gonna be called, right? iPhone 5 or is it 6?
Of course iPhone 5 will be LTE. It can't ship without it. Nobody is going to lock in the next iPhone for another two years on 3G. That's crazy talk. The next iPhone number is 5 and it will be called the iPhone 5.
 
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nuckinfutz said:
Now we just need shared data AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I don't need multiple bills.

THIS. The one thing AT&T can do to get me off my grandfathered unlimited iPhone data plan is a shared data plan. If they want people to switch, they need to quit the obnoxious throttling and offer shared plans. I would gladly give up unlimited to share 5 GB/month between my iPhone, my wife's iPhone, and an iPad.
 
LTE is going to be so awesome when we get it here in three or four years!!! :(

I had 3G phones for 5 years before it was something that I had turned on full time. Hopefully LTE will be useful faster but in no hurry to have it on my Phone. The big problem with 3G at least around here was that if you hit a poor coverage area it didn't fail gracefully so you'd get cut off. Yet iPad that can take advantage of that data speed and with adhoc Data Plans we have around here LTE iPad seems like it'll be more usefully out of gate.

Unless LTE (or the Apple baseband team) has much more reliable fallback systems.
 
These rumors are nothing new, just closer to being believable.

What no one seems to wonder or leak is how the iPad's function will expand to make it more like a desktop in your hands, or how it will be improved beyond mere resolution and hardware specs. I am curious if Apple has anything in store for the launch.

Guess we have to wait 3 weeks.
 
Where is your logic? It is indeed the 6th generation..

I think he was suggesting that the first iPhone is the 1st generation, then 3G and 3Gs were the second, then iPhone 4 and 4s were the third, then this would technically be the 4th generation. lol I'm personally just waiting to see what Apple calls it haha until then I'll refer to it as 'iPhone 5' or 'the next iPhone'

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These rumors are nothing new, just closer to being believable.

What no one seems to wonder or leak is how the iPad's function will expand to make it more like a desktop in your hands, or how it will be improved beyond mere resolution and hardware specs. I am curious if Apple has anything in store for the launch.

Guess we have to wait 3 weeks.

That definitely sounds like something that would be saved for the actual launch. It's one thing to get hardware pieces but to see how the whole thing works would be a bit more than a leak, and if it happened Apple would probably make security on new devices even higher than it already is.
 
Of course iPhone 5 will be LTE. It can't ship without it. Nobody is going to lock in the next iPhone for another two years on 3G. That's crazy talk. The next iPhone number is 5 and it will be called the iPhone 5.

How is it going to be 5? This logic is really flawed.
 
Hopefully this means a LTE in the iPhone 5. That's what we think it's gonna be called, right? iPhone 5 or is it 6?

iPhone 4GS

then it might be named, like this:
iPhone 4GS in 2012, iPad 4 in 2013
iPhone 5 in 2013, iPad 5 in 2014
iPhone 6 in 2014, iPad 6 in 2015
 
What's the use with the current data plans? If you use LTE at full potential, you'll be paying a lot monthly. 3gb per month is nothing in fast Internet connection, especially if you want me to rely on iCloud as much as Apple want us.
 
Isn't LTE just the air transmission, not the towers? I thought it was just on a different frequency and faster, not referring to better cell tower wired connections.

No, ATT had to upgrade their backhaul at each LTE tower to accommodate all the new bandwidth. I've been to SF, LA, Chicago, Houston, Boston, New York, and Vegas and I consistently get 30-40Mbps. You'll love it!
 
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