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Wall Street Journal Confirms 4G LTE iPad for AT&T and Verizon
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Question being will users grandfathered into the AT&T unlimited plan be able to access 4G? Also will they be throttled by those theiving bastards at AT&T?
Question being will users grandfathered into the AT&T unlimited plan be able to access 4G? Also will they be throttled by those theiving bastards at AT&T?
In short, the iPad 3 will likely be one of the very first devices to use the new low-power 3GPP LTE chipsets coming from either Broadcom or Qualcomm. Indeed, the new cellphone chipset will likely find their way to the new iPhone, likely due at WDCC in June 2012.
That's never going to happen. iOS is the OS for Apple's new touch screen devices. If anything - you will see iOS on Macs. I think what will happen is at some point - next rev of Mac OS - iOS will be the default install. Then for those who want to, you will be able to switch to "expert mode" which will reveal full blown Mac OS X. There will always be a place for Mac OS X. Developers need a place to WRITE iOS apps! Many of us need it for the other things we do for work or play as well. It could come as early as the next release of Mac OS X. Look for "iOS for Mac".
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As soon as AT&T offers LTE with an iPhone you will no longer be able to keep your "grandfathered" plan. They will say, it's a different network so the plan will NOT carry forward. Bet on it.
I don't know about public statements but I work with people who support AT&T's infrastructure and the old 3G towers only had copper backhaul. As part of the HSPA+ upgrade, they started moving to fiber (still Ethernet but much faster 10G) and LTE absolutely requires it. The old copper backhaul couldn't even support one LTE user. The fact is that the data tests I've done in various cities proves they have upgraded their infrastructure to support full LTE speeds.
Of course, there aren't many users on it right now but it is very fast.
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So far, they've let Android users who upgrade from unlimited 3G to LTE keep their unlimited plans. Of course, you get throttled after 2-3GB of usage.
The iPad doesn't need a cellphone chipset for the very simple reason that it is not a phone. All the iPad needs is a modem (no voice). One reason many of the current LTE phones consume higher amounts of power is because there are two radios in the phone. One that primarily handles voice and the other for the LTE band. Running two equal powered radios will consume more battery than running just one. Even running a second radio that consumes half the power of the first will consume more battery than just one.
It is not so much that "low power" is needed in the newer chipsets but that there is only one chipset required for the implementation.
While 28nm is going to lower power somewhat, it also is going to allow more functionality to be included in the same size package inside the phone.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4925/why-no-lte-iphone-5-blame-28nm-maturity
The MDM9600 is all that the iPad needs and it has been shipping already in late 2011. It is the MDM9615 that the iPhone need because it also has voice requirements.
I wouldn't bet on that. With the iPods in general decline Apple needs something that anchor their Fall ( late Aug- September ) announcement with. The iPhone is a better choice than the iPods at this point. Additionally, there is extremely little motivation to obsolete the iPhone 4S in less than a year. I don't think it has even reached worldwide distribution yet. Why drop a new phone before you start selling the old one?
Should be plenty at WWDC to talk about that simply relates to iOS 6, iBooks 2, iCloud , and perhaps Mac OS 10.8 to occupy the convention's keynote. It doesn't really need a iPhone product intro to get eyeballs.
Totally right on 10.8. I expect the 2012 MBP Redesign and iOS 6 to be introduced at WWDC
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The title should read "Wall Street Journal Confirms 3.9G LTE iPad for AT&T and Verizon."
The title should read "Wall Street Journal Confirms 3.9G LTE iPad for AT&T and Verizon."
I believe that the Qualcomm MDM9600--which does support 3GPP LTE data--is already in production. As such, since the iPad accesses the cellphone network only for data, you may see this chipset in the iPad 3 for very fast downloads through the Verizon and AT&T LTE networks.
Lame. It's gonna be iPhone 5.6th generation iPhone, so I'm not sure where people are getting this 5 number from (maybe the blogs don't think clearly)
1. iPhone
2. iPhone 3G
3. iPhone 3GS
4. iPhone 4
5. iPhone 4S
6. ( 6 is greater than 5, so how can it be the iPhone "5"? )
No, we are already on the fifth iteration. (Third if you count the "S" models as a non-upgrade, either way five doesn't come next.)
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/14317159/
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Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plans
Imagine if Apple bought the other half of the industry (and had their own cellular/data company) in the USA.
I believe the iPad1 and ipad2 on 3G are not throttled, only the iPhone's if I remember accurately the ATT memo from a year or two ago. Also I believe we are paying for an Unlimited Data Plan not an Unlimited 3G Data Plan (as it works on Edge, etc. as well), so hoping it will still transfer over from 2->3 like it did from 1->2. Now the kicker is if Verizon has better LTE than ATT, I would assume we could still remove a micro-SIM card and swap in a second so we do not accidentally loose our grandfathered plan.
Imagine if Apple bought the other half of the industry (and had their own cellular/data company) in the USA.
It's already been said in the past with LTE having been predicted coming to the iPhone the last two years..
All current "grandfathered" unlimited data users will be forced to the new "LTE" data plans which are likely to be starting at $25/$30 for the bare minimum amount of data usage (200mb?) and going north in price from there, there will be no more unlimited data.. The phase out will start with this new iPad release and if the next iPhone gets LTE which would be very likely to if they do indeed incorporate LTE into this new iPad.. Then be prepared to lose unlimited data status..
Brush up your Shakespeare. Wherefore means "why," which doesn't fit the context of your question. Juliet wasn't asking where Romeo was, she was asking why he had to be Romeo (specifically, Romeo Montague).
But to answer your questions,
1. I'd be surprised if they didn't support Sprint, but then, I've been surprised before.
2. You can buy the AT&T variant of an iPad (2) today and put a T-Mobile SIM in it. When you did this before, you did not get HSPA, because T-Mobile HSPA is on a different band than AT&T, but you'd at least get EDGE. Whether the new iPad will support HSPA on T-Mobile's band or not is unknown.
LTE is going to be so awesome when we get it here in three or four years!!!
Actually full deployment of 4G LTE should be about everywhere in about 22 months. (End of 2013). However, true "4G LTE" (100 Mbps down, 50 Mbps up when moving / 1 Gbps down when stationary) should be in most places hopefully in less than 3 years.
But, WOW, 1 Gbps Down rate for my 4G LTE desktop or laptop unless I have fiber optic to my house in three years? That's kinda like, I'll believe it when I see it!
Each generation of Cellular Technology takes about 10 years, so 5G will be around 2020, and it's around the end of a generation when the actual real world speeds of that generation are realized. Though with 3G it's confusing because of HSPA+, it's actually capable of far more than 100 Mbps (337.5 Mbps) and I'm only seeing 6.99 Mbps on my iPhone 4S now. I guess that's still a bit faster than 3.0G. (Which was originally a minimum specs of 2 Mbps down stationary/walking and 384 Kbps down for a moving vehicle). So I certainly do hope I don't have to wait until 2020 to see an easy always 100Mbps connection no matter what. Perhaps 2015, likely 2016.
(Now, about 5G, it doesn't seem likely that it'll be much faster than 4G, just more efficient, connected and global with better MIMO and multi simultaneous cell connections with (as in 4G, packet switch only) and IPv6 only.)
So, it'll be the iPhone 5 with iOS 6? Or will iOS 5 hang around for another year? So it'll be the iPhone 6 with iOS 6. But iOS has always increased by 1 every year though. I suppose iOS versions haven't always followed the iPhone number, but it has always followed the year and each successive iPhone release.
(Strictly speaking, the iPhone 3GS was the iPhone 2,1 / the iPhone 4 was 3,1 / and the iPhone 4S was the fourth generation iPhone 4,1, even though they were the 3rd, 4th, and 5th iPhone released respectively.)
The iPhone 6 doesn't have really have a nice ring to it. But perhaps after many rumors about it all next year after many people have the iPhone 5, it'll become normal sounding.
i sure hope this is true. LTE is a big deal for me, and i'm looking forward to seeing the speeds i can get at my house with it
Hmmm..I wonder...data pass like prepaid or contract? 15$ for a 1 clip movie on a 250mb data plan.. Better be good price plans..i wonder if they will throttle I assume no unlimited data just got AT&T LTE here
just got AT&T LTE here