That's what I am hoping for, and it is looking like perhaps we may see that day.
Now, about the DMV...
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Walmart and Best Buy Opt Out of 'Apple Pay' as Apple Leverages Required Point-of-Sale Upgrades
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That's what I am hoping for, and it is looking like perhaps we may see that day.
Now, about the DMV...
Considering Best Buy mines people's credit cards to create shopping and returning profiles on them, I think it's not a big loss that Best Buy won't except payments.
As for Walmart, I don't think I've shopped at Walmart in the last three years now. But I am sure I am a minority, as evident by their parking lot daily.
As for Walmart, I don't think I've shopped at Walmart in the last three years now. But I am sure I am a minority, as evident by their parking lot daily.
You've answered your own question. That would fail immediately so that is not how it will work. They get points. The credit cards want you to use this system because it will cut down on fraud which is currently costing them billions a year.
Walmart and Sam's Club started their new "chip and pin" system just recently --- every-single-time it is used, takes FOREVER, plus, they don't even enter in a pin, just push the card in, 3-4 times later it finally reads it, goes though the slow process of authentication, then asks if you want cash back, then another slow process to finish. Mean while if you had stripe, you'd be done in 30 seconds, Apple Pay, 5 seconds if you have a clean finger
Didn't even know they started the chip and pin system yet. Then again my walmart doesn't even have self checkout.
Why not accept both and not alienate your customers?
Agreed. And I bet they will in the end.
What, Synchrony Bank, which charges everyone almost 24% APR and places a late fee on your account the day before it's due? And yes, they do that. I used to work there.
Hundreds of thousands of iPhones will earn Apple more money than the small percent of sales from Apple pay. Don't kid yourself. The iPhone is apples cash cow. They won't do anything that could hinder sales of it in any way.
There are a lot of parts to the whole phone wallet thing. MCX might have a good idea, but they don't go live until sometime in 2015. Their app is called CurrentC, which is a nice name, but not available yet. The biggest plus is that it works with most smartphones, not just the IP6.
Apple Pay goes live next month, before Christmas. Google tried their wallet and got no where, for an assortment of reasons.
2015 will probably result in one or two leaders, one of which will eventually win out. The world is a big place, and droid devices are more common outside of the US. That's gonna be a tougher gig for Apple.
Apple Pay goes live next month, before Christmas. Google tried their wallet and got no where, for an assortment of reasons.
2015 will probably result in one or two leaders, one of which will eventually win out. The world is a big place, and droid devices are more common outside of the US. That's gonna be a tougher gig for Apple.
They are onboard for payment through their mobile app. Retail locations appears to be a different story.
This sounds exactly like the situation Tim described when he said that previous efforts failed because they players were more concerned with their own self interests than in their customers.
target seem to be with the 'opposition'
Target was featured in the Keynote for taking ApplePay for online orders done through their app. No mention of in store acceptance.
Best Buy has opted out because all of their registers (in CT anyway) are from 2001. The company has done a **** job of keeping it's infrastructure up to day...by not doing that for over a decade.
Seriously, worked there for 3 years until last holiday season, the systems are atrocious.
Seriously, worked there for 3 years until last holiday season, the systems are atrocious.
Thanks, definitely what I thought but a few people mentioned that they were fine giving up rewards for convenience which sounds crazy to me. Not that certain people would feel that way but that Apple executives would think that a solution could rely on the majority of people feeling in such a way.
Walmart and Sam's Club started their new "chip and pin" system just recently --- every-single-time it is used, takes FOREVER, plus, they don't even enter in a pin, just push the card in, 3-4 times later it finally reads it, goes though the slow process of authentication, then asks if you want cash back, then another slow process to finish. Mean while if you had stripe, you'd be done in 30 seconds, Apple Pay, 5 seconds if you have a clean finger
Everywhere is moving to chip, it is orders of magnitude more secure than the stripe. Walmart is just first. Their card system is SLLOOOW and it's more noticeable with chip. Wait until others have it before judging speed.
This makes me even happier I stopped shopping at both of these retailers years ago. Race to the bottom I guess.
This title is a little confusing. By reading it I initially assumed that vendors had to jump through an extra hoop to support 
Pay beyond that of simply having an NFC reader.
If what I'm reading in this thread is true, and there is no extra hoop the title should be a little more clear...something like "Neanderthals Walmart and BestBuy delay NFC POS adoption - No Apple Pay Support in near future"
Can someone link me to definitive proof that by a store having an NFC POS andPay having a partnership with your bank/card provider so that you can add it to your PassBook that means you can spend away with your phone and leave your CC at home?
Pay beyond that of simply having an NFC reader.If what I'm reading in this thread is true, and there is no extra hoop the title should be a little more clear...something like "Neanderthals Walmart and BestBuy delay NFC POS adoption - No Apple Pay Support in near future"
Can someone link me to definitive proof that by a store having an NFC POS and
Pay having a partnership with your bank/card provider so that you can add it to your PassBook that means you can spend away with your phone and leave your CC at home?
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As momentum builds they will begin to feel the pressure and revisit this decision. The future doesn't wait for anyone.
When will these guys learn? It's never best to bet on a technology that is against what Apple is doing. Especially when it relates to customers that place a high amount of value on privacy and security, and in general usually spend more than other handset owners (according to several pieces of research). Now I don't expect to have to stop carrying my wallet any time soon. A big change like this takes time to spread across all the potential partners. But if by this time next year the majority of retail outlets are taking Apple Pay and there are a few holdoutsthey better watch out. Their bottom line might start to take a hit. Even a few percent is huge for retailers.
Really?
Did you see the video? It wasn't hyperbole. It was a reasonably fair representation of the plastic purchase procedure. While we have only the video's word for it that Pay is as easy as described, I can't reasonably conceive of a situation that makes it less easy to simply pull out your phone and touch the ID button (remember, this is NFC - the phone's proximity to the NFC terminal should prompt it to engage in the payment process - no unlocking the phone or launching an app).