Warmer yellowish screen on iPhone 5?

[cababah]

To all saying this is intentional: Lets talk again in a month.

This happens EVERY TIME!!!! People claim it's intentional, and the screens are now correct! iphone 4: intentional. Few weeks later: blue screens. 4S: intentional. Few weeks later: blue screens. iPad 3: interntional. Few weeks later.....getting the pattern here?

I cant believe how many times people have tried to convince themselves that Apple is trying to "move to a correct color calibration"! If that was the case, the screens on all Apple products would have been slightly yellow since the 3GS! That was my first experience with this, and yes everyone then claimed it was intentional! But alas a few weeks later the good screens returned.

So go ahead and convince yourselves that THIS TIME Apple is really moving to a warm calibration. Just ignore the 6 other times this has happened, and yet, Apple returns to the "Incorrect" blue screens every time.

I guess you aren't a fan of reading technical articles about display colors. Overly blue tints (although you may like them) are not desirable for accurate color reproduction which is what makes a good display.

I have went through many 4S phones from initial launch up until just a couple months ago and they all had relatively warm displays compare to the iPhone 4. So my experience debunks your claim that they push the "blue" displays later.

However, should 6 months later we see nothing but overly blue tinted iPhone 5s, I will bend down and worship you as the display tint pattern expert.

 

[adcx64]

To all saying this is intentional: Lets talk again in a month.

This happens EVERY TIME!!!! People claim it's intentional, and the screens are now correct! iphone 4: intentional. Few weeks later: blue screens. 4S: intentional. Few weeks later: blue screens. iPad 3: interntional. Few weeks later.....getting the pattern here?

I cant believe how many times people have tried to convince themselves that Apple is trying to "move to a correct color calibration"! If that was the case, the screens on all Apple products would have been slightly yellow since the 3GS! That was my first experience with this, and yes everyone then claimed it was intentional! But alas a few weeks later the good screens returned.

So go ahead and convince yourselves that THIS TIME Apple is really moving to a warm calibration. Just ignore the 6 other times this has happened, and yet, Apple returns to the "Incorrect" blue screens every time.

Actually this time is the first Apple has touted an sRGB display. And the new calibration is 6500k which meets the sRGB spec. So the displays everyone calls perfect are the "yellow" ones. Keep in mind they are not physically yellow, but they just have a warm tint.

 

[kre62]

I guess you aren't a fan of reading technical articles about display colors. Overly blue tints (although you may like them) are not desirable for accurate color reproduction which is what makes a good display.

I have went through many 4S phones from initial launch up until just a couple months ago and they all had relatively warm displays compare to the iPhone 4. So my experience debunks your claim that they push the "blue" displays later.

However, should 6 months later we see nothing but overly blue tinted iPhone 5s, I will bend down and worship you as the display tint pattern expert.

Im not saying all, I'm saying that LCD manufactured by the other 2 suppliers will not have a yellow cast. What you are saying may be true about color calibration, but thats not whats going on here. Apple has to meet launch expectations, so a disproportionate amount of yellow screens hit at launch.

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Actually this time is the first Apple has touted an sRGB display. And the new calibration is 6500k which meets the sRGB spec. So the displays everyone calls perfect are the "yellow" ones. Keep in mind they are not physically yellow, but they just have a warm tint.

Just stop. If you want to believe you have a correct phone, believe it. Just hope you dont come across someone with a non yellow display, cause you'll be kicking yourself.

Sorry guys, I live with an Apple employee. I'm right.

 

[adcx64]

So in theory, it's normal to have the blue display that few people have, and not the warmer one that Apple touts?

 

[kre62]

So in theory, it's normal to have the blue display that few people have, and not the warmer one that Apple touts?

Apple dos not tout a warmer display, they tout improved color saturation. THat saturation looks even better on an LCD with a correct white point.

Enjoy your screen man. I can tell you are happy with it. Its the lower grade of the 3 screens, but its still pretty good.

 

[adcx64]

Alright, Apple measured the LCD to sRGB spec. That means it should be 6500k, which the warmer ones are. So anandtech is wrong?

 

[cababah]

So in theory, it's normal to have the blue display that few people have, and not the warmer one that Apple touts?

[Pretty much. The majority of the "warm" displays are all bad because of inconsistencies in manufacturing with the multiple suppliers.]

[The more rare "blue" tinted ones are actually correct. After Apple gets passed this initial supply rush, we should start seeing more blue panels]....lol sorry I don't buy this.

[If you want a blue tint display, play the apple lottery game and hope that out of the 10 phones you exchange, 1 of them is "proper" with a blue tint. That, or wait a few months and most of the screens being made should all be blue???]

I think that's what he's saying ^^^

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Apple dos not tout a warmer display, they tout improved color saturation. THat saturation looks even better on an LCD with a correct white point.

Enjoy your screen man. I can tell you are happy with it. Its the lower grade of the 3 screens, but its still pretty good.

Oh no you didn't just diss his screen tint!

Seriously, what's your deal? Your roommate works for Apple so that makes you right?

Who are the 3 suppliers? Sharp, LG, and...?

Also, Apple screen guru, which supplier makes the correct "blue" one?

 

[kre62]

Alright, Apple measured the LCD to sRGB spec. That means it should be 6500k, which the warmer ones are. So anandtech is wrong?

Why does every iphone5, iPhone 4S, iPad3, iPhone 4, and til recently iPhone 3GS on display at the Apple store have a nice blueish panel? Every single one of those products launched with yellow screens. Every single time people claimed it was intentional. Answer that.

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[Pretty much. The majority of the "warm" displays are all bad because of inconsistencies in manufacturing with the multiple suppliers.]

[The more rare "blue" tinted ones are actually correct. After Apple gets passed this initial supply rush, we should start seeing more blue panels]....lol sorry I don't buy this.

[If you want a blue tint display, play the apple lottery game and hope that out of the 10 phones you exchange, 1 of them is "proper" with a blue tint. That, or wait a few months and most of the screens being made should all be blue???]

I think that's what he's saying ^^^

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Oh no you didn't just diss his screen tint!

Seriously, what's your deal? Your roommate works for Apple so that makes you right?

Who are the 3 suppliers? Sharp, LG, and...?

Also, Apple screen guru, which supplier makes the correct "blue" one?

Third vendor is Japan Display.

Guys, I'm done here. You all are the reason Apple can continue to get away with this. Some of us demand excellence, thats all. If you don't want to believe the info I've provided, thats on you. If you are happy with the temp of your display, you have nothing to worry about. I personally have seen the other displays, even on the iPhone5, and I prefer it. If you feel the yellow is correct, stick with it.

It really is a simple as that. I keep hoping people will remember that these tired arguments are presented with every launch, but looks like theres no hope.

 

[Harthag]

Instead of wasting time worrying about whether the yellow is normal just exchange it and be done. You will drive yourself nuts thinking about it. It bugged me so much when looking at the yellow screen with my 4S. Apple gave me a new one no questions asked. I got lucky with iPad 3 and now my iPhone 5, both good and neutral white (both were pre-ordered and received on launch day) If it looks the same as a plain white sheet of paper I'm happy, that's the extent of my "testing".

 

[Beanoir]

I find it funny, the exact opposite of this was being moaned about in the Macbook Air forum on this site, there people are trying to correct their displays because Apple went from warm to cool and now people want warm back!

Never happy!!

 

[AppleChampagne]

Well this is the first time I have ever been happy with a warm display on any mobile device... I'm absolutely extactic about the colour representation and how the colours are displayed on a perfectly calibrated screen. Once you go warm you never go back to cool))

My phones whites actually look like a real piece of paper now)

 

[garethjs]

Extremely pissed off here. I have had 5 exchanges done n all the screens don't match the display sets. The worst was the one bought on launch day. Week 36. Now I'm on a week 40 n the display is slightly better but still more yellower or brighter than the demo sets.

Not sure what's worse. Screen or the fact that the top button is loose n rattles over vibrations.

 

[NavyDude065]

Extremely pissed off here. I have had 5 exchanges done n all the screens don't match the display sets. The worst was the one bought on launch day. Week 36. Now I'm on a week 40 n the display is slightly better but still more yellower or brighter than the demo sets.

Not sure what's worse. Screen or the fact that the top button is loose n rattles over vibrations.

The yellowish look should go away over time and a slight yellow looks better. Display a white background picture, ensure brightness is all the way up with Auto brightness turned off, ensure auto lock is set to never and place your iphone on a thin cloth onto running electronic equipment such as an Xbox 360 for a few hours and the yellowish look should fake. It worked for me.

 

[wvphysics]

If the screens are supposed to be 6500K, wouldn't that mean they are supposed to have the bluer tint? When talking color temperature, warmer (yellow/red) and cooler(blue) are the reverse of expected. 6500K white is called cool white an is a blueish white and 3000K is the more yellowish warm white like from a standard incandescent light bulb.

Just speaking from the perspective of a lighting engineer.

 

[fat jez]

6500K is the reference white used, not sure I'd describe it as blue-ish? maybe if it were around 6800K?

 

[Dick Whitman]

The yellowish look should go away over time and a slight yellow looks better. Display a white background picture, ensure brightness is all the way up with Auto brightness turned off, ensure auto lock is set to never and place your iphone on a thin cloth onto running electronic equipment such as an Xbox 360 for a few hours and the yellowish look should fake. It worked for me.

Why would this work?

 

[fat jez]

Why would this work?

He's suggesting that it will cure the glue that holds the screen together. On one of the old models, it was alleged that the uncured glue gave a yellow tint which went away when the glue cured.

The reality is apple changed to a warmer display with more accurate colours, but people were used to a colder display with too much blue in it, giving rise to complaints. I ran a Spyder colourimeter on my display, it's pretty accurate, with very little difference between the calibrated and uncalibrated display.

 

[Atomic Walrus]

The warmer white you see in Apple's devices these days is the result of a more accurate calibration. Yes, compared to some poorly calibrated devices (including some of the older iPhones) it may appear yellow, however this is what 6500K looks like. Obviously there's some variance; some will be somewhat cooler, others slightly warmer, but in general they're more accurate then they used to be.

Many displays are intentionally calibrated cooler because it creates the illusion of a brighter screen.

The glue issue was specific to the 4, and the symptom was uneven yellow coloration (yellow spots) which went away over a relatively short time, not a full screen warm tint.

Edit: In other words, exactly what the guy above me posted while I was typing this.

If the screens are supposed to be 6500K, wouldn't that mean they are supposed to have the bluer tint? When talking color temperature, warmer (yellow/red) and cooler(blue) are the reverse of expected. 6500K white is called cool white an is a blueish white and 3000K is the more yellowish warm white like from a standard incandescent light bulb.

Just speaking from the perspective of a lighting engineer.

Many displays are calibrated up around 8-9000K because people find the blue white to be crisper or brighter. That's why 6500K seems warm to many; cheap displays are almost always too cool.

 

[Cianmak19]

I just purchased my iphone 5s which also has the yellow tint . It was made on week 50 around dec 11 2013

 

[bushman4]

The blue screens are not made by LG. It appears that the yellow screens or warmer screens are LG. In any case the warmer screens take some getting use to but are OK

 

[I7guy]

My 5s does not seem to have the yellow tint.