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So many memories...

Thanks for sharing!

I own the DVD and have always loved the film, but seeing it in High Definition on TV tonight made me smile. I really hope they release a Blu-ray of this film. Including the deleted scene (and hopefully more!) you mentioned would rock! :D

Thanks for being so accurate with the machines used in the film, everything looks real and works great! Any other cool memories you care to share? :)

Thank you again...
 
We shot the Apple headquarters in a couple places, one was in Valencia.

We also shot on a recently deserted skunkworks north west of LA. (Lockheed Martin or Grummann, I don't recall which)

It was a beautiful bunch of land, the building we did as Xerox Parc had shielding all over so that it couldn't be electronically spied upon. It was clad in white metal panels. As you neared the entrance any and all electronics on you stopped working. (anything that used radio waves) Cell phones and pagers were unable to connect. This made it difficult to stay in touch with crew members once they got in building. I personally set up the Alto in the scene shot there.

We had done a "Picasso Room" in the Apple HQ. The decorator had some artist friend make them quickly for peanuts. Simple 1x4 frames and cheap canvas and house paint. After the movie I sold them on Ebay and have always wondered where they ended up. They weren't very good but I wouldn't mind getting them back. I recently visited the DeYoung and saw real Picassos and I must say the ones we did were rather weak in comparison.

The Transpo guy, Geno was a hack. For some reason he choose Steve Jobs car for scenes in the 70's. He got a Mercedes 560...I argued with Producer & Director that 560 didn't exist then, that a 450 was the top. Nobody cared, I guess they thought it wasn't a car movie.

We were forbidden from contacting Apple to get any props. Our props guy made an Apple 1 and I ended up trading it to a vintage computer museum in San Diego for a deal on all sorts of machines we borrowed for the West Coast Computer Fair. We had gone to a GREAT deal of trouble to recreate booths and the floor layout of the event where Apple II got introduced. I had been to computer shows at the time and knew "the look" but we tried to get the EXACT companies and products that were at the real event. I had a huge space in Hollywood full of these ancient computers. Even the Alto spent a few nights there. I piddled days away using "Barkeeps Friend" on various yellowy machines trying to get their inner beigeness back.

My first day on the show, I fired up an Apple II and hit "PR#6" to boot the floppy drive. A capacitor shot out of it in a shower of sparks. I learned a lesson that came back a few times. Capacitors of this age don't take well to having electric current in them after their innards have dried up.

I still have a few of the Apple IIs from the movie in storage. I think only one of them ever worked well.

The Lisa IIs were interesting. I had 2 of them working for the show. I went so far as to source new CRTs for them. The 10 Meg hard drives were cranky.

I never really found a Lisa I for the scene where Gates rolls it through a shot. I ended up with a Lisa 2 and the guys at Sun Remarketing were kind enough to loan me a Lisa 1 faceplate. The back of it had a plaque from Jobs, thanking them for support and signed by him. I think they got the job of landfilling / scrapping the failure that was Lisa.

They had sold me a couple complete systems, then just 15 years old, but wrapped tight in plastic. They looked new and they were the Lisas we shot. No idea why they trusted me with the Lisa Faceplate or it's significance. Apple had offered a free upgrade from Lisa 1 to Lisa 2 so nobody had them anymore. I was so relieved to get that faceplate.

The Producer, Leanne, was one of the very few with any ethics that I have met in nearly 30 years in film biz. Most would have told me to quit wasting time getting the Alto, or Lisa 1 and just had me toss some beige box on set and ROLL CAMERA !!

The director was NOT passionate about computers, he was passionate about telling the story and telling it right. All of the principals were offered and encouraged to have me coach them on "the lingo" but Noah was the only one who cared. The Ballmer & Gates guys were true to character....no interest at all.

The interior of Bill Gates dorm room was shot in La Canada in a building that is now ISS Props. We had to get a bunch of old Playboys, apparently he had "an interest". We also had a way cool 8 track player that worked. It was SO COOL, that someone stole it from the set.

Noah Wyle wanted more than anything to get Steve "right". Now more than ever I am glad we all tried so hard.
 
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We shot the Apple headquarters in a couple places, one was in Valencia.

We also shot on a recently deserted skunkworks north west of LA. (Lockheed Martin or Grummann, I don't recall which)

It was a beautiful bunch of land, the building we did as Xerox Parc had shielding all over so that it couldn't be electronically spied upon. It was clad in white metal panels. As you neared the entrance any and all electronics on you stopped working. (anything that used radio waves) Cell phones and pagers were unable to connect. This made it difficult to stay in touch with crew members once they got in building. I personally set up the Alto in the scene shot there.

We had done a "Picasso Room" in the Apple HQ. The decorator had some artist friend make them quickly for peanuts. Simple 1x4 frames and cheap canvas and house paint. After the movie I sold them on Ebay and have always wondered where they ended up. They weren't very good but I wouldn't mind getting them back. I recently visited the DeYoung and saw real Picassos and I must say the ones we did were rather weak in comparison.

The Transpo guy, Geno was a hack. For some reason he choose Steve Jobs car for scenes in the 70's. He got a Mercedes 560...I argued with Producer & Director that 560 didn't exist then, that a 450 was the top. Nobody cared, I guess they thought it wasn't a car movie.

We were forbidden from contacting Apple to get any props. Our props guy made an Apple 1 and I ended up trading it to a vintage computer museum in San Diego for a deal on all sorts of machines we borrowed for the West Coast Computer Fair. We had gone to a GREAT deal of trouble to recreate booths and the floor layout of the event where Apple II got introduced. I had been to computer shows at the time and knew "the look" but we tried to get the EXACT companies and products that were at the real event. I had a huge space in Hollywood full of these ancient computers. Even the Alto spent a few nights there. I piddled days away using "Barkeeps Friend" on various yellowy machines trying to get their inner beigeness back.

My first day on the show, I fired up an Apple II and hit "PR#6" to boot the floppy drive. A capacitor shot out of it in a shower of sparks. I learned a lesson that came back a few times. Capacitors of this age don't take well to having electric current in them after their innards have dried up.

I still have a few of the Apple IIs from the movie in storage. I think only one of them ever worked well.

The Lisa IIs were interesting. I had 2 of them working for the show. I went so far as to source new CRTs for them. The 10 Meg hard drives were cranky.

I never really found a Lisa I for the scene where Gates rolls it through a shot. I ended up with a Lisa 2 and the guys at Sun Remarketing were kind enough to loan me a Lisa 1 faceplate. The back of it had a plaque from Jobs, thanking them for support and signed by him. I think they got the job of landfilling / scrapping the failure that was Lisa.

They had sold me a couple complete systems, then just 15 years old, but wrapped tight in plastic. They looked new and they were the Lisas we shot. No idea why they trusted me with the Lisa Faceplate or it's significance. Apple had offered a free upgrade from Lisa 1 to Lisa 2 so nobody had them anymore. I was so relieved to get that faceplate.

The Producer, Leanne, was one of the very few with any ethics that I have met in nearly 30 years in film biz. Most would have told me to quit wasting time getting the Alto, or Lisa 1 and just had me toss some beige box on set and ROLL CAMERA !!

The director was NOT passionate about computers, he was passionate about telling the story and telling it right. All of the principals were offered and encouraged to have me coach them on "the lingo" but Noah was the only one who cared. The Ballmer & Gates guys were true to character....no interest at all.

The interior of Bill Gates dorm room was shot in La Canada in a building that is now ISS Props. We had to get a bunch of old Playboys, apparently he had "an interest". (Coincidentally, I spent most of last 4 years working for PLayboy TV). We also had a way cool 8 track player that worked. It was SO COOL, that someone stole it from the set.

Noah Wyle wanted more than anything to get Steve "right". Now more than ever I am glad we all tried so hard.

That is insanely cool, you helped make a great movie!
 
That's a great movie!

Also check out documentary called "Triumph of the Nerds" if you've never seen it before. Really great!
 
I've read a few of the books, I've seen this movie a few times and watched it again last night. It is really amazing how at the time, it seemed as though this was the complete story. Apple (and Xerox) screwed up. Microsoft had won, Apple had lost. The world was fine with the mediocrity of Windows. No more decisions or choices were left to be made in the tech industry. Windows was the standard and that was it.

Watching it last night made me feel I was watching the first movie of a triology. The past 10 years would be movie #2, Steve coming back to Apple and restoring it to glory, the .com bubble and Web 2.0.

The third movie is sometime off in the future with stuff we can only imagine...
 
Noah Wyle has made something of a career out of making TV movies in recent years, i think it wouldn't be insane to consider getting him back to continue the story of Jobs and Apple in a sequel.
 
I have had this film on DVD since around 2003. Love it! The two Steve's are literally the pioneers of the current state of computers.
 
Never know that? That is so true.

Not only did Xerox invent the mouse first but also the first non-text gui. For some reason the head people at Xerox never wanted these technologies for themselves. Apple used both technologies with the full permission of Xerox and I'm not even sure they had to pay anything for it.

It was Jeff Raskin (he died in 2005) and his team of developers at Apple who turned the Xerox gui into something Steve Jobs wanted and was happy with.
 
Pirates of Silicon Valley is an awesome movie but it only tells half a story. Douglas Engelbart invented the mouse, the gui, video conference and pretty much everything we use today in the mid to late 60s. Xerox PARC was an attempt to comercialize his work.

The Mother of All Demos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIgzSoTMOs

Steve and his team were the only people, beside Engelbart, who saw the potential of this technology.
 
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For some reason the head people at Xerox never wanted these technologies for themselves.
The reason is simple. At the time, Xerox was basically concentrated in one business: Copiers. To them, the idea that people might stop using paper and start using computers to do everything was beyond blasphemy -- it was simply unthinkable. Their decision to let Xerox PARC's ideas walk out the door was probably THE single biggest bad business decision of all time.
 
I've read a few of the books, I've seen this movie a few times and watched it again last night. It is really amazing how at the time, it seemed as though this was the complete story. Apple (and Xerox) screwed up. Microsoft had won, Apple had lost. The world was fine with the mediocrity of Windows. No more decisions or choices were left to be made in the tech industry. Windows was the standard and that was it.

Watching it last night made me feel I was watching the first movie of a triology. The past 10 years would be movie #2, Steve coming back to Apple and restoring it to glory, the .com bubble and Web 2.0.

The third movie is sometime off in the future with stuff we can only imagine...

Just watch Terminator 3. You really think it's a coincidence Siri is about to be launched on the world, AND it has just come out that the US military drone fleet has been taken over by a computer virus? REALLY?

:eek:

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The reason is simple. At the time, Xerox was basically concentrated in one business: Copiers. To them, the idea that people might stop using paper and start using computers to do everything was beyond blasphemy -- it was simply unthinkable. Their decision to let Xerox PARC's ideas walk out the door was probably THE single biggest bad business decision of all time.

It's a very important lesson, eh? Sometimes the really, really big stuff is right in front of us, but it takes a huge leap of faith to see the paradigm shift before it actually happens. THIS was Steve Jobs' main legacy. He not only saw it, but he MADE IT HAPPEN.

God DAMN I'll miss you, Steve.
 
It is a good movie, a great move in fact. But i really don't think playing it now would be the fairest thing to do because it builds up to an ending where Steve is portrayed as a failure who had to beg for money from Microsoft to keep Apple afloat.

Actually, sounds like a set-up for a sequel. :)
 
I think it's a pretty unflattering portrayal of both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. Also, it missed the best part of the story which is the last 10 years, in my opinion.

Noah Wyle did a FANTASTIC job.

Um... Funny that. It was filmed 12 Years ago. Woz said it was accurate character wise but the actual events happend differently to different people etc.
 
Good movie for a made-for-TV movie. I really enjoyed it when I saw it a couple months ago. It is available on YouTube if you search for it. Not the most accurate, but ENTERTAINING nonetheless. Casting of wise cracker, John DiMaggio (of Futurama/Bender fame), was perfect for Steve Ballmer.

The ending conversation between Bill Gates and Steve Jobs reminds me so much between what is brewing between Android vs iOS right now.

But I can see why Steve disliked the movie because of the poor budget and script. Lesser budget took away some of the attention to detail that Jobs has. He did like Noah's performance of him. If you watch it, you can sense Jobs' charisma. His story was alot more interesting than Anthony Michael Hall portraying Gates.
 
But I can see why Steve disliked the movie because of the poor budget and script.

Do we know Steve didn't like the movie? To be honest i wonder if the Steve Jobs of the iPhone/iPad years would ever have invited the actor playing him up to the stage of a major keynote. Him doing it in 1999 was probably one of the last times the keynotes were actual product introductions with proper Q&A and not a pilgrimage to meet the glorious leader!
 
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Can we get TNT in canada on expressvue?
 
Do we know Steve didn't like the movie? To be honest i wonder if the Steve Jobs of the iPhone/iPad years would ever have invited the actor playing him up to the stage of a major keynote. Him doing it in 1999 was probably one of the last times the keynotes were actual product introductions with proper Q&A and not a pilgrimage to meet the glorious leader!

Here is you answer, this is a good article http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/07/noah-wyle-steve-jobs/?section=magazines_fortune
 
I watched this when it originally aired on TNT back in 1999. I always wondered if TNT would ever show it again. Well now I know it is shown one last time,

*turns on tv*
 
Pirates of Silicon Valley is an awesome movie but it only tells half a story. Douglas Engelbart invented the mouse, the gui, video conference and pretty much everything we use today in the mid to late 60s. Xerox PARC was an attempt to comercialize his work.

The Mother of All Demos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIgzSoTMOs

Steve and his team were the only people, beside Engelbart, who saw the potential of this technology.

The story? No one proposed in the movie or otherwise that Apple invented the mouse or a GUI and quite frankly it doesn't matter who invented them. What Apple did was bring those things to the masses via their pc's, which is what made those products great, instead of a product that no one ever used and remained in obscurity.

And it's pretty amazing that people hadn't seen this movie until now. I would have thought any Apple fan would have known about this movie and watched it years ago!
 
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