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I initially got confused by the series names mentioned in this article. First, series 1, series 2, series 3 and series 4 were mentioned. Then, boot up times were mentioned for series 0, series 1, series 2, and series 4. I get that 2 refers to the third generation if we view it in terms of iteration starting with the number zero, but there’s no consistency in its usage in this article. What are the actual names?

S0, S1, S2, S3

or

S1, S2, S3, S4 (mentioned in this article)

or

S0, S1, S2, S4 (mentioned in this article)

S0 is not Apple’s official name for that one. That’s just what people in these forums have decided to call it.

Going by Apple’s official product lineup, the names are actually this:

1st Generation, Series 1, Series 2, Series 3, and Series 4.
 
Upgraded from Series 0/original SS/SB. My Series 4 arrives on Tuesday (Oct. 2nd)!

For others expecting Oct. delivery, you might be surprised by an early delivery: mine wasn't even supposed to ship until October 5-12th. And, of note, its origin was Taiwan. Seems like they've already started up that second production line there.

Mine was supposed to ship Oct 12-19. Picked one up at the Apple store a week ago. They’ve had a pretty constant flow every few days, so a lot of the ship estimates will begin to move up soon.
 
Even as the Apple Watch grows more capable and independent, I wonder if people will be comfortable leaving their phones at home. The basic smartphone features are obviously nice to have when I go on a run and don't want to bring a bulky phone around with me, but outside of that?
 
I didn't see any smoke. o_O
Maybe I can pick up a series 0 on the cheap. Keep posting videos like this and their value will continue to fall. Thanks.
 
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I may be alone here, but I have the Series 2 which I absolutely love. However, the watch was becoming incredibly slow and I was waiting for the Series 4 with anticipation. That is, until Watch OS 5 which has seen a significant increase in performance on my Series 2 now I feel like I should wait until next year to upgrade.

Did anyone else experience a big performance boost with the Series 2 from Watch OS 5? I had thought the Series 2 was going to become even slower with the release of a new OS!

Also, the Series 3, whom my wife has, also seems much speedier on Watch OS 5.

+1 on the Series 1. Massive improvement to workouts and media controls especially.
 
I wonder if it has the same obsolescence feature built in like the iPhone, where it won't be smoking anything once a couple of years pass, and the software has to slow things down, or the battery will cause the watch to crash...
 
Well duh! It’s based on 64-bit ARM most likely with higher clock speeds and more RAM. Probably 1GB. Three things have bothered me from the beginning with Apple Watch: updating firmware is painfully slow, slow boot and slow app launching. And this is on a Series 1 with a dual core CPU similar to Series 2. I can only imagine how awful the original “Series 0” was.

This Series 4 is probably the only version worth upgrading to for those who bought the original, series 1 or 2. I still think the concept of disposable smart watches is dumb especially for those who buy the models over a grand (ceramic or Hermès). If you spend that much every year (and I know a few folks that do) you’re better off buying a nice, real watch that will last a lifetime.
 
$200 NZD price increase. Wooop woop. Such great value.

Not.

then get a series 3, dah?
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I find it funny when people act surprised that the Series 1 and Series 2 perform similarly (with the Series 1 beating the Series 2 in certain cases). They are the same chip minus the GPS on the Series 1 (and I suspect that mostly explains why the Series 1 bests the Series 2 on the bootup test as it has less things to load).

As an aside it looks like I'm going to have to go back to wanting to upgrade to a Series 4 just for the bigger screen and thinner profile as it doesn't look the speed difference compared to my Series 3 will be that noticeable in everyday use (except maybe with 3rd party apps, but I rarely use any). Oh well...

it's the ECG, stupid (sorry, paraphrasing another subject here). I am very happy with my series 3, but I need to get kardiomobile egg or upgrade the watch, the watch has it, way more convenient than kardiomobile..

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Why on earth do Apple watches take so damn long to turn on?

because you almost never, like almost never, turn them off? pretty simple, come on, man up
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I wonder if it has the same obsolescence feature built in like the iPhone, where it won't be smoking anything once a couple of years pass, and the software has to slow things down, or the battery will cause the watch to crash...

"stupid is as stupid says": F Gump
 
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I'll have to wait until Oct 5 to see it for myself, as I ordered the Nike+ S4. It'll be a great upgrade from my Nike+ S2 though. Can't wait!

Yeah, me too, I'm excited...since i have been without my series 2 for two months, as it sits on the bottom of a lake, due to coming off while I was falling off tubing :oops::(:eek: good reason to upgrade:D
 
Even as the Apple Watch grows more capable and independent, I wonder if people will be comfortable leaving their phones at home. The basic smartphone features are obviously nice to have when I go on a run and don't want to bring a bulky phone around with me, but outside of that?

well, nothing else matters. Nobody actually uses anything else. Who would buy a dorkville Samsung, I mean comeon
 
By the time series 6 arrives it will.

maybe, if you can live with little tiny screens. The LTE is great for emergencies, and leaving a phone behind. ECG is a must for some folks, turn by turn, is awesome, listening to music is great, workout and step tracking, is a must if you are overweight, like me sadly, Uber, a convenience, controlling HomePod control, beats speaking to an appliance,

I bet web surfing will wait for a brain implant though
 
Why on earth do Apple watches take so damn long to turn on?

It’s loading a full OS and base apps before it can work. And the old watches had a slower CPU, slower memory controller, and slower RAM. Much slower than an iPhone or a PC. But with the series 4, it’s finally reached the responsiveness of a few year old iPhone.
 
This makes me think of when Apple introduced the iPod.

Apple at that time would not have had the luxury of coming out with a mediocre product that tried to do many things but did them slowly, as the original Apple Watch did.

It had a very narrow feature-set, but it was fast—a bit more like a FitBit, for example. The iPod was joined to the Mac at the hip like the Apple Watch was (and still is) joined to the iPhone at the hip, but even the very first iPod was blazing fast (with FireWire theoretically still faster than the highest end iPhone XS Max) at that hip-to-hip connection, whereas the Apple Watch was painfully slow loading apps from the iPhone and still to this day with initial setup.

Now they can act more like Microsoft did when they wanted Windows on every device and play the waiting game because they have enough cash to do so.

Can you imagine a first-generation iPod that was both slow and had come in a $17,000 gold version?

It makes you wonder what sort of wrist-device Apple would have come out with had it been on the skids rather than flush. I think it would have been much more like a FitBit device or a Pebble. And it might have gone in a different direction . . . or disappeared like the original iPods have.

But the silicon is catching up, so they can actually work toward a personal computer on the wrist vision.
 
So it’s “snappier”? ;)
if I never hear that over-used expression again!
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This makes me think of when Apple introduced the iPod.

Apple at that time would not have had the luxury of coming out with a mediocre product that tried to do many things but did them slowly, as the original Apple Watch did.

It had a very narrow feature-set, but it was fast—a bit more like a FitBit, for example. The iPod was joined to the Mac at the hip like the Apple Watch was (and still is) joined to the iPhone at the hip, but even the very first iPod was blazing fast (with FireWire theoretically still faster than the highest end iPhone XS Max) at that hip-to-hip connection, whereas the Apple Watch was painfully slow loading apps from the iPhone and still to this day with initial setup.

Now they can act more like Microsoft did when they wanted Windows on every device and play the waiting game because they have enough cash to do so.

Can you imagine a first-generation iPod that was both slow and had come in a $17,000 gold version?

It makes you wonder what sort of wrist-device Apple would have come out with had it been on the skids rather than flush. I think it would have been much more like a FitBit device or a Pebble. And it might have gone in a different direction . . . or disappeared like the original iPods have.

But the silicon is catching up, so they can actually work toward a personal computer on the wrist vision.

I hope you know what you are saying, because I can't figure it out.

New products usually have a lot of obstacles in development. fitting everything in a small package, battery life, screen quality, antenna placement, judging what customers actually want versus what you can do. If you keep developing a product until you get it "perfect" you never release a product. Instead, you kind of make everything fit, and iterate from there. It says a lot that Apple Watch is so far in front of the market. After a a few years, Samsung will copy some stuff, improve some other stuff, and then the Chinese will beat everyone.
 
I almost never reboot my watch but I decided to do a test in the s3 after watching this. It took 1:37.71 running watch OS 5.0. That's quite a large difference from this test.

But anyway, we seem to be with watch where we were with phones about five years ago. Each update shows notable performance changes. Meanwhile I can't say the same (or at least not to this extent) with phones anymore. That's not a complaint regarding thenlhones by the way. I'm happy to keep them longer. I'd probably still be using the 6s plus if my X list hasn't been so strong.
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S0 is not Apple’s official name for that one. That’s just what people in these forums have decided to call it.

Going by Apple’s official product lineup, the names are actually this:

1st Generation, Series 1, Series 2, Series 3, and Series 4.
i wish iPhone nomenclature was this straightforward :(
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$200 NZD price increase. Wooop woop. Such great value.

Not.
It was about $150 for us in the US too :/

I realize it does a lot more in the health department but I'm baffled how the price is never really talked about. That's a huge price jump considering I bet most people don't even spend that on a single analog watch.
 
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My S2 is still totally fine, and I love it. I never think ‘Oh I wish this was faster’, except when doing software updates, which is no big deal.

There are some things that I would instantly upgrade my Watch for, but none so far. I do think they’ve only scratched the surface of what the Watch could do but I’m glad it’s been a reasonable success by the looks of it.
 
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Coming from my Series 0 it's night and day for me. The Series 4 feels like a totally different product and since having it on launch day I am using it far more often than I thought because it's so much faster. Everything I open is pretty much instant, previously with my 0 I ended up just doing stuff on my phone rather than waiting.

Agreed. Going from my Apple Watch “O.G.” (what I call the series 0) to my new Series 4 is remarkable. Upgrade those classic devices - you won’t be sorry.

With the GPS S4, my wrist is buzzing/ringing almost before i feel my phone buzz for an incoming call. My S0 wouldn’t react until the 3rd or 4th ring.

All app alerts (still the killer app on the AW, in general) are almost instantaneous.
 
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Much needed. I tried the 3, and it was visibly laggy. I don't get what it's for. By the time you do anything on it, you could have pulled out the iPhone.
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Improved efficiency and better battery conservation = lets reduce the battery size
Well yeah, the watch is a bit thick. And this is the one time it matters since it's a watch.
 
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It really is. Even compared to my 3 it is. Compared to models earlier than a 3 it is significantly improved. Screen size + blazing speed makes what you can do with it and when different.
Please tell me what can you do different?...other than the ecg which will take years to be implemented in most countries.
 
Yes, a little over a week in and WatchOS 5 has felt a bit more responsive on my S3, I think mostly because the super annoying starting a workout lag issue appears to be gone (hopefully forever, fingers crossed).

I think WatchOS 4 is kind of the iOS 11 of the WatchOSes.

+1 on the Series 1. Massive improvement to workouts and media controls especially.

Absolutely to both! When I go out for a run or for a swim, the start-up is lighting fast compared to just a few weeks ago!
 
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