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Did you guys know that the M1 it’s fast? I just thought you should know that it’s fast.
i’m not sure if anyone’s told you yet, but it’s fast.
that’s definitely fast.
it’s extremely fast.
it’s exponentially faster than the Intel versions.
A $700 Mac mini is now faster than a $6000 iMac Pro, a $10,000 Mac Pro, or even a $52,000 Mac Pro.
I know, right? We get it.....it's fast.

Look, it's really cool, and kudos to apple for a great start, and great results right out of the gate, but......wake me when the 16" has the M1, or M2....or M5.

Actually, if you're a trekkie, you might not want anything with an M5 in it.

Still happy with my intel MBA I got in August with the discount and the Airpods Pro for a heck of a bargain. Does all I need it to do. So it has fan noise? So it's not....as fast.....I'm happy with it.

In fact, I'm typing this on my girlfriend's 2015 MBP 13", which, in my humble opinion, is the best laptop they ever made, M1 notwithstanding.
 
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To everyone saying they want more than 16GB of RAM... bear in mind how efficient the M1 chip is. So it's not really a case of having more RAM, it's more a case of how it is managed and the M1 seems to be excellent at Memory management.
 
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Some of those insane early benchmarks have come from machines with 8GB.

CPU benchmarks aren't really affected by the amount of memory available. People confuse RAM with performance. RAM lets more things happen at once without slowing down.
 
IRL opening speed is marginally less important than operating efficiency (IMHO). If it opens in 14 micro-seconds but uses 3GB of RAM before you open a file it may not be useful. (I'm looking at you, Chrome!)

As a test I just opened all the apps shown in the video and, Mojave on a 2018 8-core Macmini i7 with 32GB of RAM, used 23+GB of RAM. (Nothing else was running, safe restart before test so no other apps loaded.)

One of my main concerns when I saw the new machines was that they top out at 16GB of RAM. That feels like less of a concern now...maybe I'll pick up a Mini and see how it fares particularly since I'm not ready to put a .0 release OS on a work machine.
 
As a developer, I can tell you that the 16GB in these new machines will far out perform 32GB in anything you've used previously. I certainly recommend learning about ARM and the differences between your standard CPU like the Intel chips we've been using. RAM in these cases is not directly 1:1 comparable.

As a developer, I know you're wrong. No Apple magic can work around the fact that if I need to load a 4GB VM in to memory, I need 4GB. If my IDE needs 4GB to analyse my code, it needs 4GB. Etc, etc. The amount of memory I need hasn't changed because of a new CPU architecture. My 16GB 15" rMBP writes 200 to 300GB to disk every day through swap. I can even push my 32GB desktop to start swapping. Swap is a compromise that I'm not prepared to live with and has already resulted in the death of one SSD in my MBP. I am absolutely not buy a new Mac with an inadequate amount of memory when I can no longer replace the SSD. I consider SSDs to be a consumable part.
 
To everyone saying they want more than 16GB of RAM... bear in mind how efficient the M1 chip is. So it's not really a case of having more RAM, it's more a case of how it is managed and the M1 seems to be excellent at Memory management.

Please I wish people would stop saying things like this. There isn't some magical memory management from the M1. It's macOS that manages the memory and that hasn't funamentally changed. If you have some large amount of data, say 32GB, and need to load that in to memory for whatever reason, then you still need 32GB of memory. If you don't have it, the system will swap to disk which is orders of magnitude slower than main memory. For most people, who overrun their memory by a little bit, and only swap a little bit, this isn't a problem. But I have a 16GB machine swapping 300GB a day or more. The worst day was 1TB written to disk. This will kill the SSD, as has already happened.

So believe me, as a professional user I know I need more memory, and I will not buy an AS Mac until they offer enough. Please stop patronising me with these comments that some M1 magic can do the impossible. It can't.
 
Need help how fast is the macbook air or the pro silicon compared to a fully maxed out Early 2015 13 inch macbook pro?
 
I have macbook pro i5 16gb from 2018 year.

At the begining it was working like that - I remember when I clicked the Apple Music icon - it just showed up!
Now? With big sur? The icon jumps 2-3 times on the dock before open.

I would say the delay can be intentional :p
 
Please I wish people would stop saying things like this. There isn't some magical memory management from the M1. It's macOS that manages the memory and that hasn't funamentally changed. If you have some large amount of data, say 32GB, and need to load that in to memory for whatever reason, then you still need 32GB of memory. If you don't have it, the system will swap to disk which is orders of magnitude slower than main memory. For most people, who overrun their memory by a little bit, and only swap a little bit, this isn't a problem. But I have a 16GB machine swapping 300GB a day or more. The worst day was 1TB written to disk. This will kill the SSD, as has already happened.

So believe me, as a professional user I know I need more memory, and I will not buy an AS Mac until they offer enough. Please stop patronising me with these comments that some M1 magic can do the impossible. It can't.

Such a contrarian. Nobody is arguing that 16GB of RAM is enough for users where it's simply not enough for their use case. If anything, you should be championing the adoption of these M1 Macs, as that will only accelerate the porting of more software to ASi when models are inevitably introduced with increased RAM limits.
 
Why, when you can easily get a hub (albeit not ideal).
bandwith limits...M1 support just 2xtb/usbA speeds
I think the next step in the lineup, will be in March...Apple will update also the 13" Mbp with 4 ports by giving us a new updated M1X that supports 4 ports...OR bringing dual M1 ?! this is insane what Apple can do....jesus ***** crhist , sorry for the expression
 
Such a contrarian. Nobody is arguing that 16GB of RAM is enough for users where it's simply not enough for their use case. If anything, you should be championing the adoption of these M1 Macs, as that will only accelerate the porting of more software to ASi when models are inevitably introduced with increased RAM limits.

They addressed their comment to people in this thread complaining about the lack of RAM, that includes me and other Pros. I'm not being contrarian. I'm pointing out that people seem to think, to coin a phrase, "16GB ought to be enough for anybody" plus "blah blah blah M1 efficiency magic". It's like they cannot get their head around the fact that there are users who need more, and those users also know that they need more and why they need it.

For most people, I absolutely agree 16GB is enough. But the people complaning they can't get 32GB or 64GB already know they're part of the group for which 16GB isn't enough, so these commenters that come along and say they're wrong because of magic are completely unhelpful.
 
"Please I wish people would stop saying things like this. There isn't some magical memory management from the M1"
Sorry but you need to see this in person, to compare an 16 gb ram Intel x86 mac and an 16 gb ram M1 mac
There is a difference....it is a little magic if you want to say like this...the unified memory how it works....and based on the first day, I WILL NOT be shocked if in 2 years the memory storage will be unified in the chip...so you will never think about the ram anymore
 
Cool story bro ...

Now open Xcode, FCP X, Apple Configurator, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Lightroom and Android Developer (thought probably not available) all at once!!!
That's the problem with Apple's "benchmarks" and marketing stats (particularly for their "pro" computers). They're all reporting on ideal, unicorn scenarios, instead of the real world, professional scenarios where I'm jumping between 2-4 heavy lifting programs with a good measure of compiling thrown in too.
 
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