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Watch the M1 Apple Silicon MacBook Air Blaze Through Opening Every Default App

Serban55 said:
"Please I wish people would stop saying things like this. There isn't some magical memory management from the M1"
Sorry but you need to see this in person, to compare an 16 gb ram Intel x86 mac and an 16 gb ram M1 mac
There is a difference....it is a little magic if you want to say like this...the unified memory how it works....and based on the first day, I WILL NOT be shocked if in 2 years the memory storage will be unified in the chip...so you will never think about the ram anymore
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I don't care about comparisons between 16GB models. I need more than 16GB so they're irrelvant.

I will be absolutely shocked if memory and storage are unified any time soon. SSD latency is far higher and bandwidth is far lower than RAM. Maybe one day it will happen, but we need a few more generations of SSD advancement first, as well as increases in SSD endurance.
 
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satchmo said:
Where did you hear this?
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Apple is still selling the Intel Mac Mini as the high-end version. Just like the 13” MacBook Pro has a high-end Intel version, that and the Mac Mini Intel version will probably be replaced by a high-end M series version. Apple might introduce 4 AS computers next year which could cover the high-end Mac Mini, high-end 13” (or maybe a 14”) MacBook Pro, 16” MacBook Pro and iMac.
 
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TracesOfArsenic said:
That's the problem with Apple's "benchmarks" and marketing stats (particularly for their "pro" computers). They're all reporting on ideal, unicorn scenarios, instead of the real world, professional scenarios where I'm jumping between 2-4 heavy lifting programs with a good measure of compiling thrown in too.
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This highly, and its the thing that most people who disagree with the criticism of this post don't realize. It's easy to make comparisons when you're opening calendars, safari (empty), contacts, you name it. If you're using an MacBook Air for this, you're just about the same as an iPad Pro. True Pro machines will need to do compilation, video editing, image editing, simulation ... essentially all the stuff the average person isn't doing just for fun.

I know it's unfair to talk about this when this thread is about the MacBook Air, but its rather asinine to bring up "how fast it is" and not bring up what a real challenge would be.
 
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mike... said:
I don't care about comparisons between 16GB models. I need more than 16GB so they're irrelvant.

I will be absolutely shocked if memory and storage are unified any time soon. SSD latency is far higher and bandwidth is far lower than RAM. Maybe one day it will happen, but we need a few more generations of SSD advancement first, as well as increases in SSD endurance.
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Well then, you‘ll just have to wait you turn for the next round of releases. Should only be about 6 months time, and then everyone who jumped on the M1’s will be jealous because you were smart and waited until the machine you wanted and needed was released. SSD’s or any other storage will nit be capable of serving as main system memory for a long long time if ever.
 
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SocialKonstruct said:
Now can we run Windows 10 on this sucker? Gaming could be good!
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Unless Microsoft make an ARM version of Windows available to the general public and developers port their games to ARM (which will likely be more difficult than under macOS), then no this won't happen. The only other option is emulation, but the performance would be so poor as to be unsuitable for gaming.
 
MyopicPaideia said:
...who jumped on the M1’s will be jealous because you were smart and waited until the machine you wanted and needed was released.
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Buying into the excitement of this generation doesn't necessarily exclude you from the next. Just sell and move on to the new machine. A few hundreds dollars loss in exchange for being part of a once in a decade tech sea change seems worth it.
 
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Hmmm - not sure how it would work out with my workflow. The 384GB is there for a reason....

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macsplusmacs said:
I'm glad i never bothered to upgrade from my imac 2017 27" i7
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Me too, 'cept mine's late 2015 27" iMac. Best Mac I've ever owned as far as reliability. Hoping she'll hold up long enough for the M1 iMac or maybe a macpro mini and a prosumer display, if that ever happens.
 
mike... said:
Please I wish people would stop saying things like this. There isn't some magical memory management from the M1. It's macOS that manages the memory and that hasn't funamentally changed. If you have some large amount of data, say 32GB, and need to load that in to memory for whatever reason, then you still need 32GB of memory. If you don't have it, the system will swap to disk which is orders of magnitude slower than main memory. For most people, who overrun their memory by a little bit, and only swap a little bit, this isn't a problem. But I have a 16GB machine swapping 300GB a day or more. The worst day was 1TB written to disk. This will kill the SSD, as has already happened.

So believe me, as a professional user I know I need more memory, and I will not buy an AS Mac until they offer enough. Please stop patronising me with these comments that some M1 magic can do the impossible. It can't.
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What a strange reply!

I'm saying for most people 8GB of RAM is more than enough... how many average users do you know that use 32GB of data in one sitting? You are the exception, 99% of users will not notice a difference in 8GB, 16GB or 32GB. The M1 is a SoC so the speed increase means vast improvements for the vast majority of users.

BTW, I'm also a professional and I have been for 25 years specialising in Apple products. Who is patronising who?
 
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dog.cow said:
What a strange reply!

I'm saying for most people 8GB of RAM is more than enough... how many average users do you know that use 32GB of data in one sitting? You are the exception, 99% of users will not notice a difference in 8GB, 16GB or 32GB. The M1 is a SoC so the speed increase means vast improvements for the vast majority of users.

BTW, I'm also a professional and I have been for 25 years specialising in Apple products. Who is patronising who?
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You addressed your comment to the people in this thread complaining about them having 16GB of RAM. Those people already know they're not 99% of users. Hence my reply.
 
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And that video is a relevant use-case how?

Waiting for an AS solution that includes support for 2 external monitors and not yet convinced that the 16 GB limit is sufficient to meet my workflow needs.
 
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