Way seen to male birth-control pill


Blue Velvet

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Two problems

1) How many men would honestly be willing to subject themselves to the chemical manipulation of their reproductive system?

2) How many women would weigh up the risk of getting pregnant against a man's word that he had been taking his pills?

Is there really a demand for this?
Do we hear men clamouring for the male contraceptive pill?


When researchers at the foundation... wanted to better understand how they might be able to prevent men from reproducing, they decided to look at pond scum...

Biggest laugh today! :D
 

caveman_uk

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Blue Velvet said:
1) How many men would honestly be willing to subject themselves to the chemical manipulation of their reproductive system?
Women do it all the time.
2) How many women would weigh up the risk of getting pregnant against a man's word that he had been taking his pills?
Men usually aren't that keen on getting women pregnant. We just don't actually like the rubber things.
Is there really a demand for this?
If it was as safe as the female pill (which is reasonably safe) I'd take it.
When researchers at the foundation... wanted to better understand how they might be able to prevent men from reproducing, they decided to look at pond scum...

Biggest laugh today! :D
They've been to Stevenage then....
 

Blue Velvet

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caveman_uk said:
Women do it all the time.
Because they have more to lose from becoming inadvertently pregnant and are therefore willing to take responsibility for their own contraception...
 

sjpetry

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Blue Velvet said:
Because they have more to lose from becoming inadvertently pregnant and are therefore willing to take responsibility for their own contraception...
She is right. A lot of men would lie saying that they took the "Pill". Women on the other hand have a lot more to lose if they get pregnant. If the relationship is a long term one then it is a totally different matter, because some women can't take the Pill.
 

aloofman

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I would absolutely use it if it was available, affordable and as safe as the current female equivalent. The pill is a great option for women that doesn't impede on the sexual experience in the way a condom does. And condoms are pretty much the only option a guy has.

As for whether she should trust that the guy is taking it, it's the same trust she would need to have that he is STD-free. If she can't trust him on that, she shouldn't be having sex with him. If he's unable to be trustworthy, then that's not the pill's fault. The bottom line is that this is an option for long-term birth control in situations where the woman can't or won't use a contraceptive. The opposite situation may be more common, but it's also been available for a long time. A male contraceptive would be a nice option to have.

As for the woman having a higher stake in an unplanned pregnancy, that's certainly true, but in my experience not all women are that careful about it. I've had two partners that were much less worried about birth control than I was. One of them had two kids that she'd tried to hide from me. :eek:
 

heaven

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Why not?

If its safe, it doesn't harm you and and its not expensive...
Although it doesnt protect you from the diseases... :(
 

Mechcozmo

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Medicine takes another step forward, another group of people complain, some people hail it as great, and I don't really care so much about it yet.

Interesting though. What happens if you overdose on one of those pills? That wouldn't be good............ :rolleyes:
 

ravenvii

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Well, for myself, getting a girl pregnant would screw my life up quite nicely. One, if she refuses abortion, and has the child, I'll be obliged to pay child support, or even take care of the child, both of which I'm a LONG way from ready. And if she has it aborted, the abortion, while I support it, will be on my conscience forever. That's something I most definitely do NOT want.

And while condoms are good, they can suck sometimes, and with a girlfriend you had for a while, but don't trust 100%... I've heard of some women who lie about the pill. Why put so much trust on her if I can take it myself? After all I trust myself way more than I do her, if you know what I mean.
 

blackfox

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I like more options on the table. If available, I would use it. Some wouldn't.

Personally, with a commited partner, with the risks of STD's reduced, this would be a nice option to have, since I know that the pill can cause all kinds of problems for women, depending on body chemistry.

The condom is such an unelegant solution imo, though it will continue to be necessary in certain arenas/circumstances.

yay science.
 

sjpetry

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Raven VII said:
Well, for myself, getting a girl pregnant would screw my life up quite nicely. One, if she refuses abortion, and has the child, I'll be obliged to pay child support, or even take care of the child, both of which I'm a LONG way from ready. And if she has it aborted, the abortion, while I support it, will be on my conscience forever. That's something I most definitely do NOT want.

And while condoms are good, they can suck sometimes, and with a girlfriend you had for a while, but don't trust 100%... I've heard of some women who lie about the pill. Why put so much trust on her if I can take it myself? After all I trust myself way more than I do her, if you know what I mean.
Please don't turn this into an Abortion thread. :cool:
 

unfaded

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I'm getting snipped this month. I'm 21. Why? I hate children, and even if I have a future want for a child, there are certain parts of my genetics that I don't want to pass on.

Reversible birth control, however, is amazing - and since the only two options guys have are condoms or getting snipped at the moment, nice to at least open up the playing field between something that takes away feeling (condoms) and something that is permanent (vasectomy).

Good, good stuff.
 

markjones05

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This is fantastic. Aside from what Blue Velvet is saying (which I totally disagree with) there is definately a need and market for this pill. Besides if both patnerrs were taking the pill, the chance of an un planned pregnancy would much much less.
 

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Blue Velvet said:
1) How many men would honestly be willing to subject themselves to the chemical manipulation of their reproductive system?
caveman_uk said:
Women do it all the time.
Blue Velvet said:
Because they have more to lose from becoming inadvertently pregnant and are therefore willing to take responsibility for their own contraception...
Like being a father is sooo easy?

Blue Velvet said:
2) How many women would weigh up the risk of getting pregnant against a man's word that he had been taking his pills?
How many men have to take the risk that their wives and girlfriends haven't forgotten or "forgotten" to take their pill?

Blue Velvet said:
Is there really a demand for this?
Do we hear men clamouring for the male contraceptive pill?
Yes I'll bet there is. But it could be from guys who don't want kids but who's wives and girlfriends do. "Gee honey I guess it's just not meant to be!"

Am I a cynic? Yes. Am I wrong? The survey says.....
 

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aloofman said:
As for whether she should trust that the guy is taking it, it's the same trust she would need to have that he is STD-free. If she can't trust him on that, she shouldn't be having sex with him. If he's unable to be trustworthy, then that's not the pill's fault.
If you don't trust the person you're about to have sex with, maybe you shouldn't have sex with him/her. Maybe you shouldn't have sex with people you don't really know. If you know him/her, and you find him/her to be trustworthy, then have sex.

If you're going to have sex with strangers, or people you've only met a few times, then that's your perogative. If the male pill works, it works. It's up to the guy to use it, and if a girl knows the guy well enough to know that he's trustworthy, then great. The pill doesn't prevent stupidity.
 

wdlove

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unfaded said:
I'm getting snipped this month. I'm 21. Why? I hate children, and even if I have a future want for a child, there are certain parts of my genetics that I don't want to pass on.

Reversible birth control, however, is amazing - and since the only two options guys have are condoms or getting snipped at the moment, nice to at least open up the playing field between something that takes away feeling (condoms) and something that is permanent (vasectomy).

Good, good stuff.
I don't know your exact situation, but having a vasectomy isn't something to take likely. As you said its permanent for the most part. If you are still dating the condom will protect you from STD's. Also you could change your mind about children in a few years.
 

Mechcozmo

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wdlove said:
Also you could change your mind about children in a few years.
Yeah... Some people might take offense to that "I hate children" bit, due to their status in life.... :rolleyes:

Question: Would this mess up a man's body chemistry as well? (I haven't read the article... call me lazy if its there :))
 

Blue Velvet

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mpw said:
Like being a father is sooo easy?
Stop whining. You cannot compare pregnancy and childbirth to the fathers experience...

When unwanted pregnancies go to full term and one partner disappears, 99 times out of 100, it is the mother who is left with the child.

How many single fathers are out there who took on sole responsibility for the child from birth? Not many...

Don't get me wrong. It takes two to tango... I see the main demand for this drug from people in stable, committed relationships where the burden of contraception can be shared.

I doubt that it will lead to anything as revolutionary in terms of sexual liberation as the women's pill... and it certainly will not encourage young single sexually-active women to abandon their own contraceptive methods.
 

Blue Velvet

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markjones05 said:
Aside from what Blue Velvet is saying (which I totally disagree with) there is definately a need and market for this pill.
Tell me which bit you totally disagree with and why... I'm curious.
 

Savage Henry

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caveman_uk said:
By the time this comes out I'll need viagra not the pill! :D
Interesting that the prioroity of scientific research in this area was to 'get the goods going' and now it seems they want to 'quell the flow'.

I have to agree with Blue Velvet on this. I don't think there is much of a screaming demand for this product.

It's got a good chance of going the way of the Femidom .
 

caveman_uk

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Savage Henry said:
It's got a good chance of going the way of the Femidom .
My God they were crap!
bluevelvet said:
Because they have more to lose from becoming inadvertently pregnant and are therefore willing to take responsibility for their own contraception...
...like 18 years of child support is a walk in the park? It's true usually women get left 'holding the baby' - quite often even when the father does want to be involved - but to say men have no responsibility to a child is quite frankly rubbish.
 

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I'm with Blue on this one. Yes, the pill can have its uses but simply put woman have a lot more to lose from an unwanted pregnancy- it's a lot easier for a man to walk away than it is a woman.

Does this mean all men are bastards and irresponsible, of course not. Does this mean the pill doesn't have a place in a trusting relationship, of course not. But it does mean, that the male pill is unlikely to ever become as popular as the female pill.