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I played with it and it did not seem intuitive without a home button. Maybe I'm not used to it, but it required multiple swipes to try and navigate from screen to screen. Also, when an app is open, the status bar disappears...now when an app is running you don't know how much battery life is left nor the time.

Don't get me started on the app support
 
Not if you ever used the BlackBerry OS 10. It is pretty decent OS. It is better than iOS in some aspects. I like the unified message hub, one hand usability, different work space etc.

RIM is up for sale and I heard during a podcast yesterday that RIM should try its best to sell off QNX (what Blackberry OS 10 is based off) as a seperate entity. If Samsung buys the rights to it they can ditch Android OS and just make their own phones with their own OS. Would be interesting to see what develops.
 
Something that i really don't understand, i just picked one feature from BB10 that is useful, then bunch of people starting to mocking BB10. Why is that? Does BB10 offend you guys that much? What is harm that Apple implementing BB10 like feature? I know Apple did with its iMessage, a rip off of BBM.
 
Something that i really don't understand, i just picked one feature from BB10 that is useful, then bunch of people starting to mocking BB10. Why is that? Does BB10 offend you guys that much? What is harm that Apple implementing BB10 like feature? I know Apple did with its iMessage, a rip off of BBM.

No one is mocking you. You were championing a feature in BB10 that you wish iOS had but it turns out that "super awesome" feature you like so much is giving BB users a hard time because of accidental unlocks. That's all :)

BB10 as an OS has tons of potential (in the right hands).
 
Not if one option results in excessive pocket-dials of 911.
In perhaps some isolated extreme cases that exist pretty much with anything out there. But that's the point, the option to change that is there, which makes it a minor issue at best since it can easily be changed by anyone that might want to have it work differently on their phone.

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No one is mocking you. You were championing a feature in BB10 that you wish iOS had but it turns out that "super awesome" feature you like so much is giving BB users a hard time because of accidental unlocks. That's all :)

BB10 as an OS has tons of potential (in the right hands).
It seems like that might be the case in some isolated incidents as seems to be the case with iOS as well (at least Certaibly iOS 7 it would appear). Plus the threads about it mentioned that it can easily be changed on the BB phones, making that whole point pretty much moot.
 
In perhaps some isolated extreme cases that exist pretty much with anything out there. But that's the point, the option to change that is there, which makes it a minor issue at best since it can easily be changed by anyone that might want to have it work differently on their phone.

I disagree. I don't think that the user should be given the option to choose a setting that compromises physical safety and costs the rest of us money for a minor convenience.
 
Everyone arguing, defending and debating in this thread needs to just chill…or go have a good martini! :D

Anytime a post like the original one is made on a site like this, it's because the person wants this kind of thing to start, they enjoy the ensuing chaos. Thus, you're giving them exactly what they want, when ignoring the nonsense would be the best approach.

It's typical attention seeking behavior.
 
I don't have BlackBerry 10 devices yet, because I am waiting for that big 5 inch Q30.

I'd would not recommend buying into BB10. RIM (now called BlackBerry) is in the process of being broken apart and sold off so I'm doubtful that the Q30 will even see the light of day.
 
I disagree. I don't think that the user should be given the option to choose a setting that compromises physical safety and costs the rest of us money for a minor convenience.
This is based on one or two threads off accidental unlocks? There have already been more than that in relation to iOS 7, and certainly many more on all kinds of other devices. So far that BB feature hasn't really been shown to cause any more of those type of issues than any of the other phones that practically all have examples of people experiencing these issues.

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Everyone arguing, defending and debating in this thread needs to just chill…or go have a good martini! :D

Anytime a post like the original one is made on a site like this, it's because the person wants this kind of thing to start, they enjoy the ensuing chaos. Thus, you're giving them exactly what they want, when ignoring the nonsense would be the best approach.

It's typical attention seeking behavior.
Wait, we know that that's the case here, or that it even seems to be more likely to be the case, rather than someone simply proposing that a somewhat different feature from a different phone/OS would be nice to have in iOS. Seems like pretty much all threads would be considered trolling then.
 
This is based on one or two threads off accidental unlocks?

No, it's based on the fact that I said "Not if one option results in excessive pocket-dials of 911."

If it doesn't result in excessive pocket-dials of 911, I don't have a problem with it.
 
No, it's based on the fact that I said "Not if one option results in excessive pocket-dials of 911."

If it doesn't result in excessive pocket-dials of 911, I don't have a problem with it.
So far it doesn't seem like there's indication of that being the case, at least certainly no more than various isolated cases that also tend to happen with various other phones/OSs. But, yes, any option on any phone/OS that would somehow excessively lead to something inadvertent would not be good.
 
I have friend using BB10 as daily driver, they never had accidental unlocking at all.

RIM pretty much invented smartphone and dominated smartphone market for past few years until 2011. RIM certainly is a respectful company in that sense. And as Cananidan, I am certainly proud of RIM and hope RIM could recovery.

I'm sad to see what happened to the corperation formerly known as RIM, but they aren't going to recover. I don't say this as an Apple fanboy, cause it doesn't bring me any joy. Retailers have been sending back Z10s and Q10s by the truckload. At local Best Buy, I haven't seen one person looking at their display since it went up like 5 months ago. Right now BlackBerry is praying that someone will buy them out simply to obtain their patent rights, BBM and IP. This time next year, BB devices will no longer be supported as their cash reserves are low and revenue even lower.
 
I'm sad to see what happened to the corperation formerly known as RIM, but they aren't going to recover. I don't say this as an Apple fanboy, cause it doesn't bring me any joy. Retailers have been sending back Z10s and Q10s by the truckload. At local Best Buy, I haven't seen one person looking at their display since it went up like 5 months ago. Right now BlackBerry is praying that someone will buy them out simply to obtain their patent rights, BBM and IP. This time next year, BB devices will no longer be supported as their cash reserves are low and revenue even lower.

RIM is already up for sale.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/12/blackberry-for-sale-smartphone-market
 
This is based on one or two threads off accidental unlocks? There have already been more than that in relation to iOS 7, and certainly many more on all kinds of other devices. So far that BB feature hasn't really been shown to cause any more of those type of issues than any of the other phones that practically all have examples of people experiencing these issues.

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Wait, we know that that's the case here, or that it even seems to be more likely to be the case, rather than someone simply proposing that a somewhat different feature from a different phone/OS would be nice to have in iOS. Seems like pretty much all threads would be considered trolling then.

You're playing devil's advocate! You know perfectly well that you can tell the difference between them, especially in the way threads are worded. :)

Stop being silly!
 
I wish Apple would add a rotary dial option to the iPhone... or make it like two tin cans connected with a string.
 
I have friend using BB10 as daily driver, they never had accidental unlocking at all.

RIM pretty much invented smartphone and dominated smartphone market for past few years until 2011. RIM certainly is a respectful company in that sense. And as Cananidan, I am certainly proud of RIM and hope RIM could recovery.

Oh, stop talking *****. Have you ever heard of Nokia? Apple? Microsoft? IBM? Palm? Yeah...

1994: IBM Simon
1996: Nokia's 9000 Smarthphone
1996: Palm OS
1997: Nokia's Symbian
1999: RIM's first Smartphone/BlackBerry + BlackBerry OS
2000: Microsoft's Windows Mobile
2007: Apple's iPhone
2008: Google's Android
2010: Microsoft's Windows Phone
 
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You're playing devil's advocate! You know perfectly well that you can tell the difference between them, especially in the way threads are worded. :)

Stop being silly!
And what in this thread's OP makes it more likely to be the way you think of it rather than some other way?

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I wish Apple would add a rotary dial option to the iPhone... or make it like two tin cans connected with a string.
Now that is more like the described behavior.
 
Me! Taken about 2 weeks ago, to show off my new navel piercing.

It means I'm now being a complete brat to drive you crazy. ;)

OT: Do you ever wonder why women aren't taken seriously and have a tough time in technology fields? I was going to show this thread to my wife (former consultant) but I don't think I want to get her worked up on a nice Saturday.
 
No thanks. I don't think RIM is a good company to model after.
I think *any* company that gets kicked repeatedly in the groin then have the audacity not to roll over and die should be taken quite seriously.
 
I'm sorry but Blackberry phones stopped being smart phones when Apple and Android phones came upon the scene. The only good feature about BB phones were the push email and keyboard and thats it! As years gone by, BB stuck to their ancient OS and it started to look more like a dumb phone than a smart phone.

More than that the advent of 3G and LTE made the blackberry phones irrelevant... You see Their push email was phenomenal for receiving heavy emails when gprs and edge speeds were the norm... The emails would be downloaded on their servers, compressed and then pushed to your device... That's where BB had the benefit... Now with 3G and LTE it doesn't matter how heavy the files in the email are... I can definitely say for 9% of the common folk it doesn't matter if you get a work email on the instant or 15-30 minutes late (if you set your iphone on fetch email)... And if you are really expecting an urgent email you tend to stare at the mail app and refresh like mad anyways...

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I think *any* company that gets kicked repeatedly in the groin then have the audacity not to roll over and die should be taken quite seriously.

But, companies who stick to their old ways and past successes and arrogance and refuse to see the light of the changing trends even after being kicked in the groin repeatedly should be avoided at all costs too...
 
More than that the advent of 3G and LTE made the blackberry phones irrelevant... You see Their push email was phenomenal for receiving heavy emails when gprs and edge speeds were the norm... The emails would be downloaded on their servers, compressed and then pushed to your device... That's where BB had the benefit... Now with 3G and LTE it doesn't matter how heavy the files in the email are... I can definitely say for 9% of the common folk it doesn't matter if you get a work email on the instant or 15-30 minutes late (if you set your iphone on fetch email)... And if you are really expecting an urgent email you tend to stare at the mail app and refresh like mad anyways...

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But, companies who stick to their old ways and past successes and arrogance and refuse to see the light of the changing trends even after being kicked in the groin repeatedly should be avoided at all costs too...

How is RIM arrogance and refuse to see changes? Do you not see BB 10? BB 10 is just as good as iOS and better in some perspectives. Only thing that BB 10 is lacking is app.

Also, BlackBerry is known for their security for their emailing service and messaging service.
 
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