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I have a M4 iPad Pro and I love the device. However, if I could have bought the same specced iPad with the prior iPad Pro screen and Face ID I would have saved the money and not bought the OLED screen. The OLED screen, to me, is a needless expense with a very marginal benefit. I chose to buy one because I could afford it, but the previous screen was just as good to my eyes.

I thought the OLED screen wasn't that big of a deal until I tried to watch the new season of Silo on my LED TV or old iPad Pro 🤣 can't see nothing on those.
 
The only thing I seriously lust after from the IPP M4 is the nano texture display. But I’d need to spend 2300 euros for that with 5g. The display, the reduced thickness and weight and the 16gb ram would just be bonus. And the lack of a mini option would be a serious compromise for me. So I can’t justify that amount no matter how much I love the nano texture on it. It’s ridiculous money.
 
Despite having a 55" TV in the living room and a 32" TV in the bedroom, I've taken more and more to watching movies and other content on the iPad. That's why I upgraded from my First gen 11" Pro to the 13" M4 Pro. I wanted the larger screen, and the four speakers.

At first glance you don't see that much of a difference between the OLED and conventional screens. But go in a darker room, turn up the brightness, and view one of the HDR OLED demo videos on YouTube. You really see the contrast pop.

But yea.. The prices are astronomical. It seems everything is getting way too expensive. Many pickup trucks and SUV's are going for north of $100K. Harley Davidson is selling $50K motorcycles. At the same time, everyone is supposed to be living from paycheck to paycheck.
 
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I have the new OLED iPad Pro and I honestly can’t tell much difference from my previous iPad Pro. The screen is fine, but certainly not as vivid as I expected. I suspect two things might have impacted sales: the higher cost of the new iPad and the fact that older iPads still work just fine.
This is incorrect. The difference is immediate and I’ve had iPad Pros since the launch version. The OLED M4 iPad Pro is quite possibly the greatest piece of consumer hardware in existence—strictly from a technology standpoint.

The issue is not the OLED, the issue is iPadOS. Apple needs to wake up.
 
Apple could absolutely put OLEDs in all the iPads

We don’t need them all to be super high end tandem OLEDs

Just normal ones would be fine and very affordable at this point

Every iPad user would end up very much appreciating that specific upgrade since the screen is the one thing that everybody cares about with an iPad

It’d be hilarious to put this one to a vote…

Do you want an OLED screen or Apple Intelligence?

😁
 
What an incredibly bad take! The motion clarity alone is out of this world on the OLED. The old diplay smeared like crazy wtih things in motion orscrolling a webpage. Thje black levels in dark scenes and so on.

Incredibly bad take LOL

It’s not a bad take at all, people can’t tell the difference from 1080p and 4k on big tvs, motion clarity won’t help at all unless you really focus on it.

iPad pro’s peaked since 2018, the only noticeable difference really is storage sizes went from 128gb to 2tb max.

I watch movies on Apple TV and believe me, you really can’t tell the difference, unless the movie is HDR 10 or Dolby vision compatible natively and not upscaled. Either way I love the new pro’s for their paper thin weight now, I’m happy not to carry around a 3lbs iPad anymore lol
 
I watch movies on Apple TV and believe me, you really can’t tell the difference, unless the movie is HDR 10 or Dolby vision compatible natively and not upscaled.

Totally, TOTALLY disagree

OLED makes everything look better, with more color, "pop", contrast ratio, etc -- even lower quality streaming stuff
The perfect blacks alone make a massive difference especially when the aspect ratio of the content doesn't match that of the TV perfectly.

I just had this experience at a relatives house over the holidays ... they have a living room with a big 77"-ish "meh" Frame TV and a different sitting room with the 65" OLED... We spent all the time in the OLED room, despite the screen being smaller

It just looks better ... on the same mix of content ... even pretty low quality PlutoTV and Tubi, etc
 
ipad pro requires a pro operating system. Apple continues to gimp ipad OS when it could be a full on MacOS and iPad OS machine and so much more. It could literally change everything but it's held back by backwards software. If the Pro version has MacOS it'll sell so so many more. Why buy an M4 processor and OLED screen when all it can do is serve youtube vids.
 
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The iPad has lost the one thing it was made for: Fun. That's it. now artist and other creatives require this level of specs, but for the rest of us, just make it fun again. You have MacBook's that do the heavy lifting, so make a device that is just for content consumption and other lite tasks. The iPad mini is the only real candidate for buying a new one as it's just fun, but they cheap-out on it yet again.
 
how long will apple continue their crap w/ just incremental update. No rennovation? Why not just come up w/ some much bigger ipad? Create some new market area instead of keep pushing same **** over and over again
 
The M4 iPad Pro is an insanely capable device. The question is, who needs this kind of CPU/GPU power? I can't really justify the big expense, even though I'm using my 2018 iPad Pro every day. If I had to replace my old iPad today, I would likely go for the cheapest M2 iPad Air I could get.
 
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iPad Pro is overpriced regardless of technology they put into it, it's still the same limited OS, except now it comes with calculator.
 
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What an incredibly bad take! The motion clarity alone is out of this world on the OLED. The old diplay smeared like crazy wtih things in motion orscrolling a webpage. Thje black levels in dark scenes and so on.

Incredibly bad take LOL
I think what you meant to say is your experience was different. It certainly would have been far more respectful if you had said that.
 
I have the new OLED iPad Pro and I honestly can’t tell much difference from my previous iPad Pro. The screen is fine, but certainly not as vivid as I expected. I suspect two things might have impacted sales: the higher cost of the new iPad and the fact that older iPads still work just fine.
2018 iPad Pro A12X turned 6yo when the 2024 was announced. I think we were the target audience of the OLED model.

I'd likely replace it if silicon-carbon batteries at >33% more mAh & >33% more battery life were offered.
 
Well I love it, it’s a fantastic update from my M1 which was getting laggy. Personally my M4 11” iPad Pro is the best Apple device I have ever owned, period.
 
It’s pretty funny everyone got their own reason why they not buying the m4, for me it’s the fact apple force you to pay 1tb storage when I barely use 256gb before they give you 16gb ram. On principle alone, I refuse. Will upgrade when they make the ram same across all storage size.
 
Totally, TOTALLY disagree

OLED makes everything look better, with more color, "pop", contrast ratio, etc -- even lower quality streaming stuff
The perfect blacks alone make a massive difference especially when the aspect ratio of the content doesn't match that of the TV perfectly.

Also, the nano-texture display is a major upgrade, even more than the tandem OLED. No one has mentioned it in this thread. I don't think the lack of macOS is the problem but rather the lack of good business apps. Many companies don't even have an iPad app while others are not very good. For example, I use the HubSpot iPad app only for notifications. HubSpot in Safari is otherwise better than the app. On a different note, it seems like Apple's ads lack reach. I'm in the target market but I have not seen any Apple ads online in ages.
 
Well I love it, it’s a fantastic update from my M1 which was getting laggy. Personally my M4 11” iPad Pro is the best Apple device I have ever owned, period.

Whose fault is that I wonder?

Your M1 iPad should in no way whatsoever be "laggy" in early 2025

Sounds like garbage software work from Apple to me, because that hardware is astoundingly capable and powerful for iPads, even today
 
I for some reason finds myself needing a minimum of 1TB storage, pushing me out of any other iPad category other than iPad Pro, but M4 is so expensive it is extremely tough for me to swallow. At the same time however, I am constantly running low on storage. o_O
 
Existing iPads still work very well and there have been no compelling upgrades.

My M1 iPad Pro still runs fine; even if I were to upgrade, I would switch to the Air because I prefer LCD for the longevity and Touch ID (as I found Face ID annoying)
The only thing about the airs is that they only have 8 GB of RAM. One of the main reasons that I got the M2 is that I see 16 GB of RAM being important going forward. I’m really glad that the air was not available in one terabyte configuration of storage when I bought the M2 or I might have gotten the air not knowing that they were limited to 8 GB of RAM. I have always had the feeling that more ram was going to be important to future proof me and because I am interested in Apple Intelligence, I see that that is the case.
 
I for some reason finds myself needing a minimum of 1TB storage, pushing me out of any other iPad category other than iPad Pro, but M4 is so expensive it is extremely tough for me to swallow. At the same time however, I am constantly running low on storage. o_O
Well, of course, the new air has a terabyte of storage available, but still only 8 GB of RAM. There is that to consider Best Buy has recently had M2 iPads Pro for sale. I don’t know if they still do, but they would be less expensive than the M4 and still a great device that You could get a terabyte or two of storage and still get 16 GB of ram. Good luck.
 
Whose fault is that I wonder?

Your M1 iPad should in no way whatsoever be "laggy" in early 2025

Sounds like garbage software work from Apple to me, because that hardware is astoundingly capable and powerful for iPads, even today
I'm not the person you were replying to, however I also notice that my 12.9" M1 iPad Pro is no where near as fast as it used be. I regularly play Genshin Impact and that game runs substantially slower than it used to. I know they've added a lot more content since the game's initial release, but even just sitting idle in the game makes the iPad hot and once I start playing it won't even charge anymore because of the heat (it used to only get hot during complex scenes but would always still charge). That says nothing of the fact that it used to play at a full 60 fps and now regularly drops frames during complex scenes (sometimes I can measure game play in seconds-per-frame versus frames-per-second). This degradation in performance began around iPadOS 16.7 and I assumed an update would fix it, but it's only gotten worse.

I really want the 13" M4 iPad Pro but I'd need to buy the keyboard as well and the price is just astronomical for a product that is rather limited. The 13" iPad Pro with keyboard is more than a MacBook Pro and that's just stupid.
 
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