Ok, that’s reassuring. Is Google setup as pop of imap and do I still need to go into my google settings to set this up ? How do I set up unsecure apps access ? Wow, so when we all used OS 9 and lower we accessed our bank accounts and other sensitive sites as unsecured ?
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Well... I screwed up my PBG4 DLSD
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Ok, that’s reassuring. Is Google setup as pop of imap and do I still need to go into my google settings to set this up ? How do I set up unsecure apps access ? Wow, so when we all used OS 9 and lower we accessed our bank accounts and other sensitive sites as unsecured ?
I dont know why it happens, I suppose its a bug in the OF. But this method “unbugs” it. I live with that PowerBook quite a while(8 years) and by that time I know some tricks. Even the schematics of it is in my head fixed and I know it very well. But its strange for me that the ram controller is wired to the ram slots for full 4gigs. I dont know why the max is 2gigs, but it bothers me so much that I must find a way around it. More I am with the PPC architecture, more and more im liking it. The OF, the power of the cpu, everything... Pure beauty. I just have a feeling that I need to unleash everything thats hiding in this platform.
MagicBoy
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Amethyst1
macrumors G3
The dual-core G5s, including the Quad, can use 16 GB, but that's beside the point. We're talking about G4s.
Following on from this, I downloaded ASD2.6.3 as this is the one that will run on my A1117 G5. It is a dual-boot DVD and when making the hidden files visible you can see an OSX volume and an OF volume as I expected. What you thought was an OS9 System Folder is just OF code. A System Folder of 11K probably wouldn't even boot my MacSE - it only contains a 416 byte Finder, a 416 byte System file, a 3K file called FDE_bootinfo and an icon. So, sadly, no short cut to booting OS9 on G5 hardware.
I don’t mean to sound negative, but I seriously doubt OS 9 will ever boot on G5 hardware - any real hope for OS 9 development outside of Apple would be to get the source code - then and only then can we (programmers and developers) make OS 9 more modern. Sadly, I don’t think Apple will ever release it to public domain. What language is OS 9 written in ? If assembly, just need to disassemble the thing.
bunnspecial
macrumors G3
I have read articles here and there about how much of a patchwork mess Mac OS was by the time they got to OS 9.
First of all, anyone who has used it knows how beautiful and seamless the 68K emulator is. It's baked in at a very low level, and you don't even realize you're running a 68K native program unless you go looking for it. That was the intention, and it made the 68K-PPC transition go as well as possible. In fact, up through the end of PowerPC, you could theoretically run every single Macintosh program ever written going back to 1984.
It's my understanding, though, that the emulator was SO good that major parts of the OS were still 68K native right up to the end, and depended on the emulator to run. I would wonder if, in 2002, there was even anyone at Apple who completely understood OS 9.
Probably not, otherwise they wouldn’t have stopped development of it. As I said, if the source code to OS 9 were to be released, it can be made to work as a modern OS and internet browsing would be different. I wonder if Apple still has the source code to OS 9 or Mac OS at all still. In 2002, all Apple cared about was OS X which after Snow Leopard things went downhill from there. I admire Steve Jobs, but he should have kept OS 9 going till at least 2006, but by then we would have be able to browse 50 percent of the internet not including YouTube which didn’t exist then.
B S Magnet
macrumors 603
Between your applied knowledge of the DLSD PowerBook architecture, your desire to comprehend why there have been baked-in limits on RAM capacity, and your interest in trying to piece together enough of PPC code in SL to apply toward systems now running 10.5.8, I’m over here rallying for Team JoyBed for you to keep going and see what more you’re able to figure out definitively. 🙂
Even if in the end things do come up a bit short of your goals, these findings remain invaluable to our collective knowledge of OS X and the PPC platform. We stand on the shoulders of giants, who themselves stand on the shoulders of giants who preceded them.
Not a bad idea but 4gig stick cant be used because there is not enough addressing lines. 4gig stick use line A14 and our beloved PBG4 use A0-13.
Hughmac
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Larsvonhier
macrumors 68000
Well, never say never and have a look at my thread over here.
hi Hugh, with a 4gb stick it doesn’t boot just beeps.
in the meanwhile my hi res decided to die, but I’ll be keeping an eye on the thread!
You know what ?? Tell me it’s possible to get OS 9 to render websites by adding the new security protocols and algorithms ? If you can get Snow Leopard to run on PPC, then You should be able to get TLS 1 I believe working in OS 9.
Larsvonhier
macrumors 68000
Another side aspect would be to get "classic OS9" environment up and running on 10.6 PPC also (of course without Rosetta). Might dive into this, but my main focus is a usable, fast 10.6. PPC installation ;-)
Amethyst1
macrumors G3
Dronecatcher
macrumors 603
Amethyst1
macrumors G3
Yep, that's the nice thing about betas - features that wouldn't make it to the final. Very early XP betas still run on a 486, to give another example.
Hughmac
macrumors 603
Yes I know thanks, what I was suggesting is to try 4GB with some Open Firmware commands as discussed earlier.
Cheers 🙂
Hugh
Project Alice
macrumors 68020
Check, and mate.
Wow, someone's really mad... Anyway, that proves nothing because it's an early build that probably has little difference from Leopard. So, we have "10.6" running on PPC but's hardly real 10.6, which I really doubt will ever work on PPC unless someone leaks the source code and even then it'll be quite the challenge to compile it. Are there even any reasons to use this early build over 10.5.8?