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After a few weeks with the 13 pro I decided Android was better for me I gave the 13 pro to my son who needed a new phone.

The 13 was a great device but still not as easy to use like my s21 is. Just navigating around is so much easier on Android then a apple device.
 
Interesting. I can’t remember when I last had to close an app by hand.
What’s so much easier in navigating around? Browsing home screens or what are you referring to?

PS: I don’t doubt for a second that Siri is behind Google’s voice assistant.
 
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After a few weeks with the 13 pro I decided Android was better for me I gave the 13 pro to my son who needed a new phone.

The 13 was a great device but still not as easy to use like my s21 is. Just navigating around is so much easier on Android then a apple device.
Your son must be so happy to get your old 13 Pro! Some people on macrumours might give you some stick for going back to Android, but you have gone back to what works for you and that's what matters.
 
No offense to OP, but I've noticed that many of the less tech-savvy (often older) folks prefer the universal applicability of Android's back button (or gesture nowadays). It's easy to understand and works everywhere.

Meanwhile, Apple doesn't do a good job highlighting that you can go back within an app by just swiping from the left. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy enough. Swipe left to go back in the app, swipe up to close / minimize the app. But I think Apple really has a problem with discoverability of features like this. It seemingly started when 3D Touch was introduced, they simply failed to introduce an indicator to make it more obvious to users where the option could be used.
 
Ive never understood the idea of regular people trying to be multi platform phone users.

I’m sure everyone has their reasons but, to me, if you have a preference then stick with it because whatever new slightly hyped up feature comes out then it is never worth the trade off of losing years of apps, familiarity and comfort.

That said, I’m sticking with iPhone because of iMessage and AirDrop but I’m jealous that Google Photos Partner Sharing actually acknowledges how families work.
 
No offense to OP, but I've noticed that many of the less tech-savvy (often older) folks prefer the universal applicability of Android's back button (or gesture nowadays). It's easy to understand and works everywhere.

Meanwhile, Apple doesn't do a good job highlighting that you can go back within an app by just swiping from the left. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy enough. Swipe left to go back in the app, swipe up to close / minimize the app. But I think Apple really has a problem with discoverability of features like this. It seemingly started when 3D Touch was introduced, they simply failed to introduce an indicator to make it more obvious to users where the option could be used.

I guess that’s one of the reasons we now have Tips widgets, notifications and the apps to help learn these iOS features.
 
No offense to OP, but I've noticed that many of the less tech-savvy (often older) folks prefer the universal applicability of Android's back button (or gesture nowadays). It's easy to understand and works everywhere.
I'm pretty tech savvy, but I get confused trying to use my wife's new iPhone at times as well. How the heck am I supposed to close an app? Trying to get the URL/Search bar to show up on Safari? Huh? Swipe diagonally from the corner for one thing. Swipe up, swipe down, swipe left, swipe right, swipe diagonal, two finger swipe...that ain't intuitive. You gotta do a lot of memorizing.

Somewhere along the way, Apple forgot that the UI is supposed to be intuitive. That was what made the Mac so desirable back in the day. If you have to RTFM to learn how to use the UI, it ain't intuitive. Older iOS was very intuitive. My wife's old iPhone was a joy to use.
 
I'm pretty tech savvy, but I get confused trying to use my wife's new iPhone at times as well. How the heck am I supposed to close an app? Trying to get the URL/Search bar to show up on Safari? Huh? Swipe diagonally from the corner for one thing. Swipe up, swipe down, swipe left, swipe right, swipe diagonal, two finger swipe...that ain't intuitive. You gotta do a lot of memorizing.

Somewhere along the way, Apple forgot that the UI is supposed to be intuitive. That was what made the Mac so desirable back in the day. If you have to RTFM to learn how to use the UI, it ain't intuitive. Older iOS was very intuitive. My wife's old iPhone was a joy to use.
It goes both ways. When I use my girlfriends Samsung I can't believe the location of some of the system features or to simply look at the capacity on the device. I would never switch just because on iOS I easily navigate the OS and very rarely have to search to find something to change a setting.. She like you doesn't like the way iOS is set up and has no interest in switching
 
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I opted to skip the iPhone 13 this year and preordered the Pixel 6 Pro. iOS has gotten stale and IMO the 13 is just an incremental upgrade over my 12. Here's hoping shakes it up and the iPhone 14 is a game changer. If not, I'm ready to stick with Android again.
 
I opted to skip the iPhone 13 this year and preordered the Pixel 6 Pro. iOS has gotten stale and IMO the 13 is just an incremental upgrade over my 12. Here's hoping shakes it up and the iPhone 14 is a game changer. If not, I'm ready to stick with Android again.

That’s interesting. I would have compared the 13 pro max to the pixel 6 pro if I were making that decision. But comparing the 13 to the 12 to end up on the pixel is an interesting route.
 
I did something 3 weeks ago I never thought I would do. I was about to buy a brand new iPhone 12 after using my old iPhone 6s to the max of its lifespan knowing that iOS 14 just killed it battery wise. I'm an elder but not a 70-80 person. Found the price too high for my use of an iPhone. So I sait let's go the other route for a try. I bought the cheaper new Android I could get mu hand on. A Moto E 2020. 75$. Know what, I don't dislike Android that much and I don't like it that much either. For my light use, it's the prefect phone. But Android (10) is a byzantine OS. Too many options the likes of "do you really want to", "press here to know more", "don't forget this", "press here for other options", "more options here" (with a little arrow pointing). To me, it's a bit childish. Don't need to be taken by the hand at each step. As for the customization, thinly customization that is interesting is the possibility to rearrange the order of the icons. Skins, color this color that, so may widgets that they do double tasking, your phone can become a mess. I gave myself a deadline: Black Friday to finally know if Could live with Android. And... syncing is kind of possible with many detours. But since I have an iPad and iMac and other iPhones, better forget the seamless integration. Google may try its best but it's far as refined as Apple. That being said, there's nothing I did with my 6s that the Moto E cannot do.
 
I like both OS's quite a bit, but I stick with the iPhone because it's what the rest of the family likes and uses, and I have grown accustomed to it. All modern phones are pretty amazing in terms of their capabilities, I think it really just comes down to preference.
 
That’s interesting. I would have compared the 13 pro max to the pixel 6 pro if I were making that decision. But comparing the 13 to the 12 to end up on the pixel is an interesting route.
Well I have the iPhone 12 (not pro) now. I previously had the 12 Pro Max but gave that to my wife in a family phone shuffle. I've had the 12 since August and honestly it's fine - the 12 Pro Max I found it too cumbersome for my everyday usage. I'm over displays that are 1080 or worse. The Pixel 6 is just 1080 and I did want the higher refresh rate and I was able to play with a Pixel 6 Plus at Best Buy and its definitely more narrow and weighs less than the iPhone 12 Pro Max so that's a plus for me even if its a bit of splitting hairs at this size lol.
 
I'm pretty tech savvy, but I get confused trying to use my wife's new iPhone at times as well. How the heck am I supposed to close an app? Trying to get the URL/Search bar to show up on Safari? Huh? Swipe diagonally from the corner for one thing. Swipe up, swipe down, swipe left, swipe right, swipe diagonal, two finger swipe...that ain't intuitive. You gotta do a lot of memorizing.

Somewhere along the way, Apple forgot that the UI is supposed to be intuitive. That was what made the Mac so desirable back in the day. If you have to RTFM to learn how to use the UI, it ain't intuitive. Older iOS was very intuitive. My wife's old iPhone was a joy to use.
I'm sorry, but I don't just understand what you are talking about. Where do you have to swipe diagonally in iOS? Or do a two finger swipe?
And left/right/up swipe - sure, but what's different to a modern, button-less Adroid device then? You have to swipe there, too, as there ain't any buttons... I use a S20 as my work phone and I might be swiping on there more than I do on iOS.

And your "joy" using an older iPhone/iOS: I still have an iPhone 5s here with iOS 9 on it.
What is different from using a modern iPhone 13 with iOS15? The ONLY difference is: to close an app, you swipe up instead of pushing a button. ALL other controls (like getting the Safari URL bar up) are EXACTELY the same on these devices! Or in settings, swiping from left to right to go back: I guess that was introduced in iOS 6? Or maybe 7?
Actually, the way, the UI works hasn't changed until like forever in iOS.
One might not like that fact, but complaining about "new" iOS being confusing ad "old" iOS was a joy to use, .... No. Not getting it.
 
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