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One thing I didn't like was the large camera bumps and the weight to boot. I came from the 12 mini I might get the 13 mini in a few weeks.
Time to change the title of this thread, maybe something like "I am thinking of going back to Android but I might first get the iPhone 13 Mini in a few weeks". 😅😂
 
Been there done that. Android is full of bloat, software glitches, force stops and lag with updates. iOS just works. It ain’t perfect but close to it for the average consumer. I could never keep an Android phone for more than 2 years without getting frustrated with decreased performance. iPhones are good for AT LEAST 4 years. Apple gives incremental upgrades for each new iPhone because the phone is just that good and doesn’t need a major overhaul. And folks still buy it every year. Android phones constantly have to entice consumer with gimmicks such as folding screen phones. I got an issue with my iPhone under AppleCare, I’m getting a replacement same day at an Apple store. Samsung? You gotta wait 3-5 business days to ship a replacement.
 
Been there done that. Android is full of bloat, software glitches, force stops and lag with updates. iOS just works. It ain’t perfect but close to it for the average consumer. I could never keep an Android phone for more than 2 years without getting frustrated with decreased performance. iPhones are good for AT LEAST 4 years. Apple gives incremental upgrades for each new iPhone because the phone is just that good and doesn’t need a major overhaul. And folks still buy it every year. Android phones constantly have to entice consumer with gimmicks such as folding screen phones. I got an issue with my iPhone under AppleCare, I’m getting a replacement same day at an Apple store. Samsung? You gotta wait 3-5 business days to ship a replacement.
I've never had those issues on any of the new Android phones, they're buttery smooth and lag free with amazing high refresh rate displays, but iOS just feels like home to me.
 
Been there done that. Android is full of bloat, software glitches, force stops and lag with updates. iOS just works. It ain’t perfect but close to it for the average consumer. I could never keep an Android phone for more than 2 years without getting frustrated with decreased performance. iPhones are good for AT LEAST 4 years. Apple gives incremental upgrades for each new iPhone because the phone is just that good and doesn’t need a major overhaul. And folks still buy it every year. Android phones constantly have to entice consumer with gimmicks such as folding screen phones. I got an issue with my iPhone under AppleCare, I’m getting a replacement same day at an Apple store. Samsung? You gotta wait 3-5 business days to ship a replacement.
You must have the worst luck. Can‘t say I’ve had that experience in a long time.
 
Used both, like both. Depending how long between switches it takes a little time to get up to speed with where things are such as certain settings. Then I get over the newness of it and carry on doing what I do. Browsing forums, sat nav, play a couple of games, play music, watch videos.
They both so the same things.

My missus recently switched to an iPhone, she struggled for a while because as she said “everything is so difficult”. Of course it isn’t difficult it’s just different to what she was used to.
 
Been there done that. Android is full of bloat, software glitches, force stops and lag with updates. iOS just works. It ain’t perfect but close to it for the average consumer. I could never keep an Android phone for more than 2 years without getting frustrated with decreased performance. iPhones are good for AT LEAST 4 years. Apple gives incremental upgrades for each new iPhone because the phone is just that good and doesn’t need a major overhaul. And folks still buy it every year. Android phones constantly have to entice consumer with gimmicks such as folding screen phones. I got an issue with my iPhone under AppleCare, I’m getting a replacement same day at an Apple store. Samsung? You gotta wait 3-5 business days to ship a replacement.
Samsung have the worst customer services known to mankind. Period. Lord forbid you need an issue sorting.
 
You don't have to force quit apps on iOS. Perhaps if an app is misbehaving, but in general, you do not need to "close" an app. On iOS, apps in the background are limited in what they can do to prevent runaway apps. RAM is released as needed. Don't treat iOS like a desktop OS.
Ironically you don't need to do this in Android 11 or 12 either (probably before but I was on the OG Droid and then iPhones until the CSAM stuff). :)
 
Switch from Android about a year ago... Enjoy iOS. Just wish they improved Siri. Primary reason for the switch was part of my de-googling effort (no gmail, andoird, anything Google) because of their privacy practices...which is terrible.
 
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Never been torn between the two cause I’m not biased to any team, just a phone hopper.
Don’t mid 3 or 5 yrs support being just early adopters of any new features both OS bring in hardware and software.
Enjoyed Note 10+, Note 20 Ultra, Fold 2&3 and iPhone 11 Pro Max.
Now using a combo 13 pro max work  watch 7 45 ss.
Of course I’ll give a try to Pixel 6 pro, S22U replacing Note series, Fold 4 and finally going due to calendar IPhone 14 Pro Max with all new design boxy  watch 8.
Waiting and eager for more
 
Yeah, I’ve tried several flagship android phones over the years, and I’ve always returned them and go back to iOS. I’ve never found the android customization options compelling, and iOS is easier to use, and I don’t have to run frequent maintenance to keep iOS operating well.
 
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Switch from Android about a year ago... Enjoy iOS. Just wish they improved Siri. Primary reason for the switch was part of my de-googling effort (no gmail, andoird, anything Google) because of their privacy practices...which is terrible.
Let me know when CSAM is actually dead. Otherwise? Android 12 ain't far behind.
 
I moved to a 12 due to the Mini. I hadn't had an iPhone since the iPhone 4 or 4S. I really like the device but I'm moving to the Pixel 6 Pro.

For me, the reasons are that Notifications are MUCH better and easier to manage on Android, and I can clone apps so that I can have multiple Discord, Slack, and Outlook clients on the phone to better manage my multiple accounts. The iPhone is just WAY to limiting for my workflow and the more I stay on it the more I feel those limitations.

To me it's an amazing device just to hampered by software limitations.
 
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Yeah, I’ve tried several flagship android phones over the years, and I’ve always returned them and go back to iOS. I’ve never found the android customization options compelling, and iOS is easier to use, and I don’t have to run frequent maintenance to keep iOS operating well.
I haven't had to do that on ANY device and I've been using Android since 2012 or so.
 
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Been there done that. Android is full of bloat, software glitches, force stops and lag with updates. iOS just works. It ain’t perfect but close to it for the average consumer. I could never keep an Android phone for more than 2 years without getting frustrated with decreased performance. iPhones are good for AT LEAST 4 years. Apple gives incremental upgrades for each new iPhone because the phone is just that good and doesn’t need a major overhaul. And folks still buy it every year. Android phones constantly have to entice consumer with gimmicks such as folding screen phones. I got an issue with my iPhone under AppleCare, I’m getting a replacement same day at an Apple store. Samsung? You gotta wait 3-5 business days to ship a replacement.
1) Not been an issue in YEARS. thinking 5+

2) I have an iPhone right now that after 8 months has only 90% battery health...

3)Thats an issue mostly with Qualcomm, NOT Android. They would stop supporting a chip after 3yrs so OEM's had too also. Newer devices are good for 4yrs of updates and Googles new Pixel is 5yrs of security updates.

4) You know that Apples working on folding screens too, right? I bet you won't think it's a Gimmick one a folding iPhone or iPad is released. Also, if people are buying them and finding them very useful, it's not a Gimmick. Let me guess you also through putting a Camera or music player on a phone was a gimmick too?

5) No, you don't, you can get one shipped next day. Google and Motorola will also ship next day.
 
Let me know when CSAM is actually dead. Otherwise? Android 12 ain't far behind.

Not far behind in data mining?

The CASM scans are also often happening on the server side too, right? So as long as a user has his/her data on a participating cloud service, you’re being scanned.
 
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1) Not been an issue in YEARS. thinking 5+

2) I have an iPhone right now that after 8 months has only 90% battery health...

3)Thats an issue mostly with Qualcomm, NOT Android. They would stop supporting a chip after 3yrs so OEM's had too also. Newer devices are good for 4yrs of updates and Googles new Pixel is 5yrs of security updates.

4) You know that Apples working on folding screens too, right? I bet you won't think it's a Gimmick one a folding iPhone or iPad is released. Also, if people are buying them and finding them very useful, it's not a Gimmick. Let me guess you also through putting a Camera or music player on a phone was a gimmick too?

5) No, you don't, you can get one shipped next day. Google and Motorola will also ship next day.

With regards to 4 - that’s speculation. Given how successful Apple’s current and last one or two generations are in many markets it remains to be seen if they actually want to push out something even more expensive for that currently rather small segment of users.

I’m not saying they don’t have a few prototypes around, but wether one ends up being a sales success in the same way the current iPhones are, remains to be seen.
 
I did the opposite last night, grabbing a 13 Pro to replace a decade+ of Android use. Just tired of all the good Android options being so damn big.

Initial pro: Nice screen with consistent auto brightness.

Initial con: Why is it so damn hard to adjust the alarm volume?
 
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3)Thats an issue mostly with Qualcomm, NOT Android. They would stop supporting a chip after 3yrs so OEM's had too also. Newer devices are good for 4yrs of updates and Googles new Pixel is 5yrs of security updates.
So let me get this straight the QualComm processor just all of a sudden stop functioning after 3 years and that is why it can't get software updates beyond 3 years. What about all those existing phones with the QualComm processors, they get automatically excluded from being updated. Very short sighted and seems like an excuse to not support a device beyond 3 years of OS updates.

I went to QualComm's website and I looked at the list of mobile CPUs they currently support. In 2015 QualComm released the SnapDragon 820 processor. There were no less then 14 smart phones that used the 820 in them. So tell me again, QualComm actually still supporting the 820, precludes those phones using it to not get the current Android versions on them. My iPhone 6S Plus that was released in 2015 is still being supported with iOS 15. That is not 5 years but actually be 7 years of iOS updates that I have had on that phone.
 
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So let me get this straight the QualComm processor just all of a sudden stop functioning after 3 years and that is why it can't get software updates beyond 3 years. What about all those existing phones with the QualComm processors, they get automatically excluded from being updated. Very short sighted and seems like an excuse to not support a device beyond 3 years of OS updates.

I went to QualComm's website and I looked at the list of mobile CPUs they currently support. In 2015 QualComm released the SnapDragon 820 processor. There were no less then 14 smart phones that used the 820 in them. So tell me again, QualComm actually still supporting the 820, precludes those phones using it to not get the current Android versions on them. My iPhone 6S Plus that was released in 2015 is still being supported with iOS 15. That is not 5 years but actually be 7 years of iOS updates that I have had on that phone.
The same logic can be applied to Apple arbitrarily not supporting Macs that are perfectly capable of running the latest OS. I had a 2011 MacBook Pro running Big Sur just fine. At least they support their phones longer than any other phone maker.
 
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The same logic can be applied to Apple arbitrarily not supporting Macs that are perfectly capable of running the latest OS. I had a 2011 MacBook Pro running Big Sur just fine. At least they support their phones longer than any other phone maker.
My 2015 13” MacBook Pro and my 2015 27” iMac is still supported this with macOS Monterey. That is 7 years so far.
 
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