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thekev

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How well would this perform on a Mac with USB 2.0? (Obviously not ideal, but hoping it would be some 'future-proof' storage expansion until I can afford to upgrade my mid-2010 iMac.)

USB 2.0 speeds are completely saturated by HDDs. The idea seems quite silly to me. Drive capacities tend to update year over year. SSDs may not progress as quickly, but these prices will still vary over time. It also needs to be stated that these drives are not immortal. SSDs still fail. The cases themselves can also fail, so you still need backups.
 

Ihatefall

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I have been using a Sandisk Extreme pro 500 (480gb) for a year now and I love it. (Amazon had a 1/2 off sale on sandisk products!) The lightness means that you can just lift you laptop and move it with the drive just dangling. It's soooo much faster than a normal external that you can edit video in FCPX off of it.
When my connecter failed I was able to pop the drive out and copy the files (unlike most WD drives) and sandisk replaced it with the 510 which is splash proof and dust proof!
I love it
 
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ignatius345

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How well would this perform on a Mac with USB 2.0? (Obviously not ideal, but hoping it would be some 'future-proof' storage expansion until I can afford to upgrade my mid-2010 iMac.)
Very very slowly, as with any USB 2.0 device. But it's hard to see why it wouldn't work.

And yeah, I feel your pain. USB 2.0 is one of the main reasons I finally felt I had to upgrade my old Mac Mini. It has a Thunderbolt connector, but peripherals for that are really overpriced, and its other high-speed option (FireWire) is dying/dead in the marketplace. It's a shame, because otherwise that Mini is still performing quite nicely. It's a shame Apple waited so long to embrace USB 3.0.
 
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ErikGrim

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Portable SSDs are overkill for most use cases. The two exceptions already mentioned would be VMs and video editing, although I am curious about the longevity of an SSD used for video editing.
I want to replace my aging collection of external spinning platters with SSD for data integrity purposes. They also require huge amount of power and produce quite a bit of heat, some noise, as well as take up a lot of room. The only certainty with a spinning hard drive is that it will eventually die.

So speed is definitely not just the only consideration. I just wish it wasn't so cost prohibitive still.
 

Val-kyrie

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I want to replace my aging collection of external spinning platters with SSD for data integrity purposes. They also require huge amount of power and produce quite a bit of heat, some noise, as well as take up a lot of room. The only certainty with a spinning hard drive is that it will eventually die.

So speed is definitely not just the only consideration. I just wish it wasn't so cost prohibitive still.

Are SSDs providing the same data integrity as HDDs? I know Samsung's Pro models have a 10 year warranty and the EVOs have a 5 year warranty, but I thought spinning HDDs were less susceptible to data corruption and SSDs risked losing data if they were powered off for long periods of time.
 

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Are SSDs providing the same data integrity as HDDs? I know Samsung's Pro models have a 10 year warranty and the EVOs have a 5 year warranty, but I thought spinning HDDs were less susceptible to data corruption and SSDs risked losing data if they were powered off for long periods of time.
Unpowered flash storage can lose data over time, but we are talking months not days. Pretty good article here about it.

So yeah... if you want to archive off some photos and put the drive on a shelf for a year, an SSD would not be the best option.
 

belvdr

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Unpowered flash storage can lose data over time, but we are talking months not days. Pretty good article here about it.

So yeah... if you want to archive off some photos and put the drive on a shelf for a year, an SSD would not be the best option.

Thanks for that link. I need to upgrade our XBox One storage and plan on doing so via the external USB port. I was considering an SSD, but not now, as our X1 may be off for a week or more depending on time of the year and such. I just don't have the patience to reinstall games from disc just because the SSD was not powered.
 

Weaselboy

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Thanks for that link. I need to upgrade our XBox One storage and plan on doing so via the external USB port. I was considering an SSD, but not now, as our X1 may be off for a week or more depending on time of the year and such. I just don't have the patience to reinstall games from disc just because the SSD was not powered.
I think for a week or so, you would be okay. From what I understand it would take at least three months or so, and even then it may not happen at all.
 

gnasher729

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Looks pretty nice, and it is just as cheap as other companies.
And there was me thinking the design is absolutely awful.
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How well would this perform on a Mac with USB 2.0? (Obviously not ideal, but hoping it would be some 'future-proof' storage expansion until I can afford to upgrade my mid-2010 iMac.)
SSD drive connected to USB 2.0 is absolutely pointless. USB 2.0 will give you at most about 30-35 Mbyte per second. That's a lot slower than any spinning hard drive, which can easily do up to 120 Mbyte per second. Save your money and get a 1TB spinning hard drive for £50 or 2TB for £70.
 

Mac 128

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Are SSDs providing the same data integrity as HDDs? I know Samsung's Pro models have a 10 year warranty and the EVOs have a 5 year warranty, but I thought spinning HDDs were less susceptible to data corruption and SSDs risked losing data if they were powered off for long periods of time.

Isn't data recovery more reliable from an HDD in the event of failure too? I mean there's a physical platter that can be read manually if need be. How easily can the data be recovered from an SSD?
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And there was me thinking the design is absolutely awful.
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SSD drive connected to USB 2.0 is absolutely pointless. USB 2.0 will give you at most about 30-35 Mbyte per second. That's a lot slower than any spinning hard drive, which can easily do up to 120 Mbyte per second. Save your money and get a 1TB spinning hard drive for £50 or 2TB for £70.

I've found that even my Thunderbolt connection was limited by the internal bus speed on my older Macs, making it no more desirable than the USB 2.0 or FireWire 800 ports.
 

orbital~debris

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And there was me thinking the design is absolutely awful.
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SSD drive connected to USB 2.0 is absolutely pointless. USB 2.0 will give you at most about 30-35 Mbyte per second. That's a lot slower than any spinning hard drive, which can easily do up to 120 Mbyte per second. Save your money and get a 1TB spinning hard drive for £50 or 2TB for £70.

Thanks, but I think you've totally missed my point…
 

akdj

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I have been using a Sandisk Extreme pro 500 (480gb) for a year now and I love it. (Amazon had a 1/2 off sale on sandisk products!) The lightness means that you can just lift you laptop and move it with the drive just dangling. It's soooo much faster than a normal external that you can edit video in FCPX off of it.
When my connecter failed I was able to pop the drive out and copy the files (unlike most WD drives) and sandisk replaced it with the 510 which is splash proof and dust proof!
I love it

Congrats, this time don't 'just pick up your Mac and let "it" dangle' ... and your 'connector won't fail'

Reading the front half was cringe worthy! The second ½ put the worthiness in the cringe!

I like these prices. I was looking at Best Buy and checking out the 2.5" USB 3 enclosures ($29.99) and SanDisk, PNY & Samsung Evo 850 drives - all SSD, and weekly, one of the three is on sale. Last week I bought a 960GB SanDisk 2 internal SSD ($140 off for $259) and the enclosure for $30 - essentially a TB SSD external drive that's reading @ 520/writing @ 480Mb/s under three hundred, I thought, made it a steal.
Then I read this lol

It's all great news though, I picked up the earlier mentioned SanDisk 256 stick and while not an SSD by any stretch.... it's still a 256GB thumb drive able to carry more data, media, and more than before and clip it to the key ring!

I'm looking forward to Thunderbolt PCIe SSD options ...able to double, triple or quadruple USB 3/SATA speeds at their saturation point. An eGPU (box/power & cooling) w/PCIe or m.2 slot for an SSD inside the box! Seems like a doable task and for a grand, you have the ability to add high speed storage and high performance GPU to your MacBook Pro .....we'll see;)
 

Ihatefall

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Jun 30, 2010
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Congrats, this time don't 'just pick up your Mac and let "it" dangle' ... and your 'connector won't fail'

Reading the front half was cringe worthy! The second ½ put the worthiness in the cringe!



Congrats, this time don't 'just pick up your Mac and let "it" dangle' ... and your 'connector won't fail'

Reading the front half was cringe worthy! The second ½ put the worthiness in the cringe!

It's fine and I still do it with my new one. It happened when it wasn't even connected to the computer when it happened. It's apparently a known issue that they fixed. Seriously the drive weights less than a 3ft cord. It's a tool, not a work of art. I use this to edit video, important stuff is storage elsewhere.
 

mpainesyd

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Nov 29, 2008
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The Apple HDMI adapter for the Macbook has a USB-C port for the power cable as well as a USB-3 port so I can connect a USB-3 portable drive while the Macbook is charging.
Since there is only one USB Type-C port on the WD drive this means the Macbook cannot be powered while using this drive, unless I have a USB-C hub or similar (looking for one now...).

Belkin have a hub with 2 USB-C ports & 2 USB-A ports:
http://www.belkin.com/au/F4U090/p/P-F4U090/
But that only gives me one extra USB-C after plugging in the power cable...
 
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havenyoung

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This drive is currently Best Buy exclusive and I just picked up a 512GB one yesterday. It is very light and small, half metal (silver part) half plastic (black part). Comes with a USB Type-C cable with 3.1 gen 2 support and a USB Type-C to Type-A adaptor.
I don't have a Samsung T3 to compare, but the speed is decent. Blackmagic results show around 400MB/s write and 425MB/s read with either the provided cable or my own Belkin TB3 cable connected to a 13" MacBook Pro with no touch bar. Wondering if and how to get the claimed 515MB/s speed result.
 

Mac 128

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This drive is currently Best Buy exclusive and I just picked up a 512GB one yesterday. It is very light and small, half metal (silver part) half plastic (black part). Comes with a USB Type-C cable with 3.1 gen 2 support and a USB Type-C to Type-A adaptor.
I don't have a Samsung T3 to compare, but the speed is decent. Blackmagic results show around 400MB/s write and 425MB/s read with either the provided cable or my own Belkin TB3 cable connected to a 13" MacBook Pro with no touch bar. Wondering if and how to get the claimed 515MB/s speed result.

Ultimately the speed of the external device is limits by the internal bus, and USB overhead.
 
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