leehericks
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I have series 0. I’m holding out for a thinner Apple Watch. Series 3 is ungodly fat compared to the original.
What a New Design Could Mean for Apple Watch Series 4
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bunnicula
macrumors 68040
Same appreciable appearance of thickness. I know because I have 3 of the S0 in my house and none of them look any thinner at all than my S3.
falcn
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3rd party apps like Cardiogram can monitor HR non-stop. They fake workout mode.
Mac 128
macrumors 603
This is where a round watch would excel... I had a timex sport watch in which the dial was rotated 90 degrees on center. I loved it. A round Apple Watch could automatically rotate the dial display based on the most appropriate position relative to the angle of the arm. Square can too, but not as efficiently.
Heart rate measurements via wearables are never really that accurate. I've gotten an scosche forearm wearable for when doing exercise, and my HR would sometimes show going down to the 50's, when I just finished a rep and my heart is going at least 150. All because the forearm band moved by a half an inch from where it was.
Add heart rate variability, which is more important view of overall health than HR, and EKG to this watch, and I'll be getting a pair for my elderly parents. I *might* get one for myself when exercising--I still like to wear a real watch.
Add heart rate variability, which is more important view of overall health than HR, and EKG to this watch, and I'll be getting a pair for my elderly parents. I *might* get one for myself when exercising--I still like to wear a real watch.
IJ Reilly
macrumors P6
That is surprising. Is yours the steel or aluminum watch? I've been wearing a Series 0 steel with sapphire glass every day for over three years. Not a mark on the screen, and I am not at all careful with it.
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What's an "actual" watch face?
imola.zhp
macrumors 65816
Two people in our household went from 0's to 3's this year. Only one of us (not me) mentioned the slight bump in thickness, I didn't really notice it, and the other person in our household got use to it so quick its not an issue anymore.
Our 0's were CRAZY slow, almost useless other than keeping time.
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We'll hang back with our fairly new to us 3's, though I wish I had gotten LTE for myself, my better half of course got LTE; and my sister, I see the benefit of LTE now.
AirPower is coming.
I know AW will be compatible with AirPower but I don't feel like spending a lot of money on a charging pad.
I’ve got a Space Black Stainless Steel with Cellular.
And as far as an “actual” face. I mean I would like having watch faces that look like watch faces. The two it comes with are very very simple and don’t offer much of a watch feel.
JRobinsonJr
macrumors 6502a
I certainly use the watch for esoteric things like airline tickets, but my primary use is for health tracking, so my asks are almost all focused on that. Also, to the best of my knowledge these would all require hardware changes. I have a long list of asks for WatchOS... but will save that for a different discussion.
1. Improved accuracy of movement/exercise through better detection (arm swing, gait, etc.)
2. Blood Pressure - even as a reasonable approximation - would be amazing!
3. Blood Glucose levels - even as a reasonable approximation - would be amazing!
4. EKG - particularly during workouts - could be another game-changer.
Of course, I suspect that several of these would require extending the sensors to the wrist-band, probably for blood pressure and EKG... but I'm OK with that.
Isn't it less than 1 mm increased thickness? Like a sheet of paper?
Col4bin
macrumors 68000
Just received my Apple Watch 3 as a Father's Day gift last month and have already cracked the screen around the bezel through casual daily wear. Is this a normal "occurrence" for anyone else? The so-called "strong" sapphire glass display seems exceptionally cheap. Very disappointed.
IJ Reilly
macrumors P6
If circular (analog?) is your criterion for "actual" watch faces, then you now have five options, and all of them are customizable. Some of them don't seem simple at all, especially the chronograph face. Add some complications to that one and you've got a decidedly not-simple watch face. I can't comment on watch "feels" because I don't know what that means.
technole
macrumors 6502a
Only the Stainless Steel/Hermes/Edition have the Sappire. The base models have Ion-X Glass.
CarlJ
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One, it's not square, it's rectangular. Two, the current watch is 42mm. The increase to 45mm is just 3mm, or about 1/8th of an inch (for us old-fashioned folk). You're telling us the current watch is fine but you can't survive a 1/8" increase?
The accompanying diagrams suggest that the screen on the hypothetical new small model watch is larger than the screen on the current large model watch. So, if you don't like the new large size, there's an easy solution - go with the small size.
FWIW, my previous watches were all smaller (closer to 38mm diameter) - I've never been a fan of dinner-plate-on-the-wrist watches. I wasn't at all sure I could deal with the 42mm Apple Watch, so I went in that first day they were available and tried both - 42mm, corner-to-corner on rectangular Apple Watch doesn't feel as huge as a 42mm diameter divers watch. I'd need to see it in person, once again, but I suspect a 45mm Apple Watch would be quite reasonable.
I'm not sure how your forearm bends or if you have some new fancy mutation with an extra wrist joint, tendon, and bone structure. But for most humans, the forearm a watch rests on doesn't bend like the elbow or hand.
Col4bin
macrumors 68000
Darn, I have the Series 3 Nike+ edition. Received it as a gift. Bummer.
dampfnudel
macrumors 603
Yeah, that’s definitely a negative with the current Apple Watch. It should be more scratch resistant than it is.
That's a good point, it seems to be more of a limitation of the square design than anything else. I don't like the complications they seem to interfere with the flow of the watch feature. As far as feels I mean that this doesn't feel like a watch. It's a colorful media presenter with the ability to show a representation of a clock.
artfossil
macrumors 68000
"Ungodly fat"? Series 0: 10.5 mm. Series 3: 11.4 mm. Difference: .09 mm.
If that .9 mm is keeping you tethered to Series 0, you're missing out on a lot of functionality.
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"Ungodly fat"? Series 0: 10.5 mm. Series 3: 11.4 mm. Difference: .09 mm.
If that .09 mm is keeping you tethered to Series 0, you're missing out on a lot of functionality.
Wouldn't it be 0.9 mm?
CarlJ
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Since it is a watch, and has a face, by definition the watch faces on the Apple Watch don't just "look like" watch faces, they are watch faces.
If what you mean is, "I want a watch face that looks like a traditional analog mechanical watch", then why not say that?
Personally, I'm a fan of analog watches and have a few nice ones (sadly my Apple Watch gets all the attention now, because of notifications and such). But rather than simply trying to closely mimic traditional watches (which had to go with hands spinning around a single central point due to their design), what I'd really like to see Apple do is explore new ways of showing the time:
- I've seen interesting clock designs that show, for instance, a (still round with pointers) 24 hour clock, where midnight is at the bottom and noon is at the top, with accurate/updating indications of the "light half" and "dark half" of the day.
- I'd like to see seconds displayed as a thin row of 60 dots around the perimeter of the screen, that slowly fill from 1 to 60 (or 0 to 59) and then reset.
- The current analog faces have date displays that are covered up by the hands as they go by, which means you can only see the date sometimes. This is a limitation from analog watches that they are purposely mimicking, to make the watch seem more familiar. I'd rather be released from the trappings of no-longer-applicable mechanical limitations, and show the time in new and interesting ways.
- Frequently, I want both a digital time, for precision, and an analog display, to give a quick sense of the approximate time. Why not have a simplified hour/minute hand face (markers but no numbers), with a ring of dots for the seconds, and the time in digits, HH:MM overlaid on the middle? You don't need to see the very center of the analog display to easily read it - the center pivot is meaningless when it's all just pixels. Maybe make a faintly tinted arc of color that follows the hour hand around from the the 12 o'clock position, so the hours display looks a bit like a pie graph?
- I'd like an Apple Watch face that has an analog display that doesn't take the entire face (maybe more like a third of it), along with a digital HH:MM display (possibly set in the middle of the analog display), and with an activity rings display that is larger than the pencil eraser-sized complication, but doesn't dominate the watch face, and with these two large displays leaving room for a couple of full-width complications at the bottom (or top and bottom?) of the screen. Maybe fit in one or two of the little round complications too. And make it so that tapping on the analog time display cycles between a 12 hour clock face and the 24 hour "day clock" mentioned above.
That's what I was referring to, I didn't really pinpoint that exact statement but yes traditional watch styling. All your points are why I still daily my Gear S3. I've made several faces for it to suit my different tastes as well as used plenty of the available ones you can download to best cater my needs at the time.