What are the chances that there will be no MBP 2019?

Apathy Overdose

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Reading this forum, it seems that the general consensus is that the MBP lineup isn't very important to Apple these days. With that in mind, also Apple just having introduced the new Vega GPUs, and a MBP re-design probably being due in 2020 and most likely already being underway, what are the chances that Apple just takes a year off and there is no new MBP model for the year 2019?

I'm partly asking because I've been in the market for a new laptop and obviously have been eyeing the 15' MBP 2018, but it's not an immediate need and I could wait until summer, but if there's not going to be a new MBP 2019, I would be waiting for nothing.
 

Ploki

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macbook has usually been at least refreshed yearly, so it's probably going to happen.

just buy when you need it.
 
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They refresh them every year, sadly I don't make enough to get the newest. Ukrainians don't make much.. my job pays me like 35000 Hryven' and thats like 300-400 a month in USA Money.
 
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macbook has usually been at least refreshed yearly, so it's probably going to happen.

just buy when you need it.

The thing is, this doesn't apply to Apple's laptops anymore.

"If you need it" - Buying now is problematic because of the keyboards. If you really need a laptop and keyboard starts failing all of the sudden plus it takes weeks to get a replacement... could be an issue.

Everybody is waiting for Apple to show at least some progress when it comes to portable computers. Since 2012 it's been stale, boring, without innovation and riddled with bizzare and unnecessary problems like faulty keyboards.
 

Ploki

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The thing is, this doesn't apply to Apple's laptops anymore.

"If you need it" - Buying now is problematic because of the keyboards. If you really need a laptop and keyboard starts failing all of the sudden plus it takes weeks to get a replacement... could be an issue.

Everybody is waiting for Apple to show at least some progress when it comes to portable computers. Since 2012 it's been stale, boring, without innovation and riddled with bizzare and unnecessary problems like faulty keyboards.
a little grim dont you think?
 

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a little grim dont you think?

Well imagine the keyboard failing during a big work presentation, skipping two slides instead of just one. Randomly.

"Grim" doesn't even begin to describe it.

Simply put - I stopped looking at Apple's laptops as "pro" devices. If I cannot trust a computer to switch slides when I want it to, I cannot trust it to be a "pro" device. Sadly an iPhone is more a reliable computer than a Macbook these days.

I love the ecosystem, I find macOS and its software (Keynote, FCPX, the basic OS) a joy to use and something that doesn't hinder any kind of creativity.

But the hardware... at this point I would get any other computer if it could run macOS.
 

AppleHaterLover

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They refresh them every year, sadly I don't make enough to get the newest. Ukrainians don't make much.. my job pays me like 35000 Hryven' and thats like 300-400 a month in USA Money.

Can you get any sort of MBP on that salary??
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Why would they come out with a new one next year. They’ll do a spec bump but i highly doubt there will be a new design.
Apple will stick with this design for years now.

We're entering the fourth year of this design. Maybe in 2020.
 
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Why would they come out with a new one next year. They’ll do a spec bump but i highly doubt there will be a new design.
Apple will stick with this design for years now.

Yeah that's what I mean...a 2019 model...which is what OP is asking about....

where in my post did I say a new design???
 
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I would not count on it. How long did it take for the 2018's to be refreshed.
 

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Yeah that's what I mean...a 2019 model...which is what OP is asking about....

where in my post did I say a new design???

If they are heading towards using an ARM processor, I doubt that we will see a new design next year. It will probably be just a minor bump in the specs.

I predict that it will have the same keyboard but maybe Apple can come out with a new batch of T2's without issues.
 

tjedora

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If they are heading towards using an ARM processor, I doubt that we will see a new design next year. It will probably be just a minor bump in the specs.

I predict that it will have the same keyboard but maybe Apple can come out with a new batch of T2's without issues.

Switching to ARM would render all available applications useless. Every Pro user would be without any software in the beginning. I doubt the MBP will go the ARM route.
 

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Switching to ARM would render all available applications useless. Every Pro user would be without any software in the beginning. I doubt the MBP will go the ARM route.

Any switch would initially have to be accompanied by an emulator. It's not the best but it has been done before (think Power PC).

Note: The software companies would rush to get out ARM versions depending on how difficult it is to recompile (i.e. lots of sales).
 
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Any switch would initially have to be accompanied by an emulator. It's not the best but it has been done before (think Power PC).

Note: The software companies would rush to get out ARM versions depending on how difficult it is to recompile (i.e. lots of sales).

Yeah I know but I doubt emulating x86 on ARM is going to be as "good" as PPC to x86. Just thinking about all the Music production stuff I have... nope nope nope. Please don't go ARM Apple. Thank you.
 

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Yeah I know but I doubt emulating x86 on ARM is going to be as "good" as PPC to x86. Just thinking about all the Music production stuff I have... nope nope nope. Please don't go ARM Apple. Thank you.
I would bet Apple would create a new laptop line to user ARM. Probably something with a touchscreen. I can't see them shoehorning a new processor into the current design.

If anything the ARM series of computers will be iPad hybrids.

I envision something like the Touchbook Pro.
 

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Yeah I know but I doubt emulating x86 on ARM is going to be as "good" as PPC to x86. Just thinking about all the Music production stuff I have... nope nope nope. Please don't go ARM Apple. Thank you.

Most customers would probably not like it but Apple has always done things its own way.
 
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tjedora

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I would bet Apple would create a new laptop line to user ARM. Probably something with a touchscreen. I can't see them shoehorning a new processor into the current design.

If anything the ARM series of computers will be iPad hybrids.

I envision something like the Touchbook Pro.

I would be fine with this. Leave the MBP x86, make the Air and MacBook Amateur ARM or just keep the iPads getting better. I mean I would understand the need to get independent from Intel and Apple's Chipdesign is really impressive. So who knows what happens.
 

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I would be fine with this. Leave the MBP x86, make the Air and MacBook Amateur ARM or just keep the iPads getting better. I mean I would understand the need to get independent from Intel and Apple's Chipdesign is really impressive. So who knows what happens.
Within 10 years I don't think we will have Apple computers the way we have them now. They will slowly phase out the current line with iPad hybrid machines that will run ARM. I can't see Apple doing the PPC x86 conversion again. It will be a new line and a slow shutdown of the "legacy hardware".
 
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