Cars are getting less and less repairable every day. More things are electronic and repair is pull a module and replace it for $100-400 instead of the $0.30 resistor that died or cable that shorted. As they get more an computerized they are going the same way as computers in terms of decreased repairability and being sealed. Tesla, BMW and GM says they are even going to drop fuses in the near future and use power control modules. And you know replacing one of those is going to cost more than a $1 box of fuses. Even to troubleshoot many problems in cars these days you need the vendor proprietary bus harness and licensed diagnostic software.
I think this lack of repair-ability is something we are paying for thinner, lighter, and more powerful computer devices.
Anyone I talk to want the ability to swap ram modules and have longer battery life, not thinned laptops.
Cars are not getting less repairable every day, the insurance costs keeps that in check. If a car gets too expensive to repair, then its insurance goes up and less people buy that car and the cycle goes on.
In a car, even if it has a control module, that can still be swapped out without having to buy a new engine like you do with Apple.
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Combustable engine vehicles and computers are entirely different things, you really can't compare them. An engine is a mechanical device, anything with a moving part will fail and so needs to be replaced/repaired at a certain frequency. A modern laptop, often has only the fans as moving parts, so far less prone to failure.
And now it's $1000 for a keyboard replacement? I hear all sorts of figures, ranging from $400-1500 for a keyboard. Have you had yours repaired and it cost you that much? Or are you just guessing based on similar minded disgruntled people? I only ask because I had mine replaced a few months back, and it was ~$350 on the invoice (USB ports were replaced too at a whole $15...). No that's not cheap I get it, but nowhere near the random sky high figures people spout. And considering that is for the entire top case, really not a bad deal.
If Dell works for you then great, they have a different business model and cater to a far wider audience than Apple. Apple are kind of very niche and are great for some people, pita for others. Same as Dell are great for some people, others would have less positive words for them. Something for everyone.
People did used to hold onto computers for a lot longer in the 80s, this reduced in the 90s and 00s, and is getting less and less really. Nothing wrong with it, if you want the latest and best then you need something new.
Anyway doesn't matter. All opinion and subjective, important to be objective otherwise you end up with circular discussions like this, see Rossman?
Of course you can compare them.
A modern laptop has parts that fail, a car has parts that fail.
Both have parts that users would like to be easy to replace.
Just because Apple decides to glue in the battery, solder in the ram and ssd doesn't mean that we all have to like it.
You might be fine sucking it up, just don't expect the rest of us to like it.
Apple has a big army of fans who like to stick up for them come rain wind or shine and I am no longer one of them,
If Apple made cars, the engine would be welded in for structural integrity and you would happily defend apple for it.
And no people did not hang on to computers more in years gone by, the advancement of the OS put paid to that. Why do I know this, just looking at the frequency I/friends/business replace computers over the years.
