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Exactly!

You just make a normal phone call and save the video for a computer videoconference.

Seriously.

Honestly, you're on the bus, you're on the subway, you're driving, you're walking, you're at a diner...

Virtually EVERYWHERE, you are NOT in a position to hold your phone straight out, two feet away from your face, to talk to someone. You make yourself a target for thieves and rarely have that amount of room on a commute, nor is it physically possible within standard safety parameters most of the time (e.g., driving!).

You're not going to do it while walking down the street or at a restaurant. You'll do it sitting down at a desk or on a sofa at home, and you can just use your freaking computer in any of the usable situations.

It's a gimmick. Are there even any other phones that have video calls?

No one is saying that you going to use it in the above scenarios. I have used video chat on a cell phone before. yes, it's a novelty, but it has its uses and appropriate times.

Yes, the rest of the industrialized world have video chatting phones.
 
The two main selling points can either be just because the product is new and it's apple, you'll just want to get one OR because V1 iPhone users are at the end of their contract already.
 
The fact that the iPhone can record video and you can edit it on your iPhone.

Which is :rolleyes:, imo. But hey the selling point for the second generation was 3G and GPS, lol.
 
The two main selling points can either be just because the product is new and it's apple, you'll just want to get one OR because V1 iPhone users are at the end of their contract already.

The contract for v1 iPhone owners does not affect their ability to upgrade. The v1 iPhone was not subsidized, and v1 owners could have upgraded to the 3G at any time without a penalty fee (meaning they would only have to pay $199/299, the same as a new customer).
 
The contract for v1 iPhone owners does not affect their ability to upgrade. The v1 iPhone was not subsidized, and v1 owners could have upgraded to the 3G at any time without a penalty fee (meaning they would only have to pay $199/299, the same as a new customer).

Right, but I think the point he was making is that AT$T is going to want and bring us Original iPhone owners back into a 2 year contract instead of letting us walk around with the possibility of jumping ship to say Sprint when ever we feel like it.
 
Right, but I think the point he was making is that AT$T is going to want and bring us Original iPhone owners back into a 2 year contract instead of letting us walk around with the possibility of jumping ship to say Sprint when ever we feel like it.

No, if you read his whole comment, I believe he is saying that the fact that v1 owners will be finished their contract is a selling point that will cause more people to buy the new iPhone because they will be able to. If they were still in contract (in the way he believes, not the way we are), they wouldn't be able to easily upgrade.
 
No, if you read his whole comment, I believe he is saying that the fact that v1 owners will be finished their contract is a selling point that will cause more people to buy the new iPhone because they will be able to. If they were still in contract (in the way he believes, not the way we are), they wouldn't be able to easily upgrade.

Ahh. I see where you are coming from now, and I actually think you are most likely right.
 
considering i just bought my 3g about a month ago, with a new 2 year contract...what is the likelyhood of me being able to upgrade at any sort of discounted price? if i go in there with 700 bucks will i be walking out with a new phone? i imagine that they wont turn anyone down if they have money, right?
 
considering i just bought my 3g about a month ago, with a new 2 year contract...what is the likelyhood of me being able to upgrade at any sort of discounted price? if i go in there with 700 bucks will i be walking out with a new phone? i imagine that they wont turn anyone down if they have money, right?

No one knows yet. If anyone claims they know, they are FOS.

Most likely you would have to pay the full retail price of the iPhone and not the $199/299 pricing (if those are the new price-points).

We'll find out in a week or so most likely.

I would guess that $700 would cover it though.
 
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