With 16 gb of RAM and some self modifying code, the rMBP also becomes self aware. This doesn't happen with only 8 gb of RAM.
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With 16 gb of RAM and some self modifying code, the rMBP also becomes self aware. This doesn't happen with only 8 gb of RAM.
This reminds me that someone once said
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640K ought to be enough for anybody."
And, why would anyone need a color monitor?
You could benefit from it in those applications too depending on settings and file sizes. It's not terribly expensive anymore either, especially if you're talking about something other than the rMBP. I think Crucial was selling on Amazon around $125 or so. It's quite different from early 2011 when you'd only buy that much if you absolutely needed it in a laptop.
instability. Especially with memory hungry programs like Photoshop or Flash (the Adobe app not the plugin).
Maybe the newer version have gotten better. However ram is not worth its weight in gold as it was a few years ago. I don't see how it is reasonable to use ram management when for $200 you can max out the ram beyond your current needs.
Back when ram was $500 or $1000 to get the max config I could see the utility.
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what you have more than 5 tabs you must be an obsessive compulsive, lol!!!
Glad a few people with some sense are also posting. Great fender btw!
Well I work in IT full time. Anyone who does can tell you that you must constantly be upgrading your skillset, or pretty soon you are obsolete!
So I do a fair amount of self education online.
Oh yeah also I spend too much time on Craigslist.
and yeah Fender Japan has some sick basses!
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I 've worked in IT too, I am a cs major, no one who's not in our field understands the anxiety of having to catch up with so much all the time to avoid being obsolete as you said.
At the current rate of lighting fast development, future proofing is wishful thinking.
Buy what you need now, then plan on replacing it before too long. Thats what Apple has in mind. Need proof?
Just four letters M B P r.
Sealed, non-user serviceable, when the new models are released, you simply chuck it in the landfill & buy a new one.
Apples just made it very clear the environment is no longer important to them.
16GB = you don't close apps anymore. I have half of the CS6 suite open, Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Outlook, a ton of Chrome tabs, a bunch of Preview files. When I had 4-8, I was conscious of closing apps.
Well once upon a time it was pretty safe to assume that if you were talking to 5 Mac owners 4 of them would be graphic design professionals and the 5th was a musician. So I suppose you can excuse us old fogeys for assuming that all mac users are running CS6 or Logic with Ableton.
I guess the updated version would be 4 out of 5 are web design professionals and the 5th is an independent filmaker.
It seems like only recently that the Mac has become a computer for "regular" people. Folks that just web browse, email and do other light tasks. The industry journals and investment types cal it the "iphone bounce". Folks that normally wouldnt drop $2k on a computer, but they dug their iphone so much (compared to their blackberry) they figure the macbook pro will be the equivalent upgrade over their thinkpad.
A good chunk of my family has been using Macs since the original Macinstosh and I'm the first one to emerge that uses a Mac for stuff other than web browsing. There were plenty of people pre-iPhone using Macs for everyday stuff, I seem to recall iBooks being pretty popular.
Depends on what you are doing. I hit 16GB last night for the first time, I actually had the machine starting to thrash which surprised me lol.
If you are doing casual browsing, sure 4GB will be just fine. If you are doing multiple things at once, Photoshop, browsing, Lightroom, you will want 8 GB. If you are doing professional video editing you will want 16GB. Not talking casual iMovie for family videos.
I am a developer that is working on many different things at once. Its very common to see me running.
- 2 or 3 browsers
- My editor (Coda 2)
- Evernote
- Things
- Photoshop
- Tower git
- Omnigraffle
- iTunes
- MySQL
- Apache
- MongoDB
- Memcache
- Skype
And all of that is on a casual work day.
It depends on what type of user you are. I suspect that people who are using this forum generally use their machine for more then casual browsing. Which is why you will see recommendations that are higher then casual users.
Introducing the new MacBook Pro, MacRumours Edition: 32gb RAM standard.
This opens everything. Again.
Extremely happy with 8 gigs. Saved myself $200 which I could spent to buy 1/3 of an iphone or half an ipad2.
I have been running my rMBP non stop with 8gigs for the last 10 days or so and it still managed to only generate 1.7mb worth of page outs. Most of the time I have anywhere between 3-5 gigs of free RAM left. This is with itunes, mail and chrome with multiple tabs open and once in a while a few other random apps.
Those 1.7mb of page outs, I didn't even noticed them until I checked the activity monitor and saw that number. Guys I got 8 AND 256gb of RAM. Your ssd is your ram. I don't think its worth spending $200 for something that is not perceivable.
I have been running my rMBP non stop with 8gigs for the last 10 days or so and it still managed to only generate 1.7mb worth of page outs. Most of the time I have anywhere between 3-5 gigs of free RAM left. This is with itunes, mail and chrome with multiple tabs open and once in a while a few other random apps.
Those 1.7mb of page outs, I didn't even noticed them until I checked the activity monitor and saw that number. Guys I got 8 AND 256gb of RAM. Your ssd is your ram. I don't think its worth spending $200 for something that is not perceivable.
False. The memory management algorithms are designed to scale with how much RAM you have available. So when you have 16 gb, it will just garbage collect less often, so it will appear like you are using more RAM.
Here's a simple decision tree:
Keeping the laptop for 2 years? Go with the 8 GB. Wanting to future proof the laptop for longer than that? Go with the 16 GB.
Business buying the laptop? Go with the 16 GB.
Trying to save money? Go with the 8 GB.
Money's no object? Go with the 16 GB.
It's that simple...
Keeping the laptop for 2 years? Go with the 8 GB. Wanting to future proof the laptop for longer than that? Go with the 16 GB.
Business buying the laptop? Go with the 16 GB.
Trying to save money? Go with the 8 GB.
Money's no object? Go with the 16 GB.
It's that simple...
Does anyone have benchmarks for 16GB? I've just read through some of the pages and it seems 16gb is recommended as it cannot be upgraded (obvious conclusion)
Is there any way of proving that over 8gb can be used completely? I know this is very vague - we won't know what apps will require in a year or two...
Again a very naive question, but would it be better to upgrade in 2 years and save £130 on that price instead of spending that money on RAM? Will it more likely sell in 2 years with 16GB?
There are hypothetical questions, but I'm fairly confident that I won't be keeping it for more than 30 months, that way I can sell it with 6 months warranty.
Is there any way of proving that over 8gb can be used completely? I know this is very vague - we won't know what apps will require in a year or two...
Again a very naive question, but would it be better to upgrade in 2 years and save £130 on that price instead of spending that money on RAM? Will it more likely sell in 2 years with 16GB?
There are hypothetical questions, but I'm fairly confident that I won't be keeping it for more than 30 months, that way I can sell it with 6 months warranty.