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Reflecting further on this, instead of a display, I’d also happily take a cheaper, lighter Vision, powered from the iPhone Pro and use that as a giant display instead with apps running in iPad size class windows.

Using the Vision Pro as a giant virtual monitor / cinema seems to be the one solid use case that people gravitate to. The only issue is that the AVP was conceived as a platform in its own right - to ultimately take over from the iPhone, if the displays can be sufficiently miniaturised. I suspect Apple are loathe to just turn it into a high end Eye-Trek.

But that’s far less likely in 2025, so if I can’t have any of the above, Apple, at least give me a teeny tiny MacBook. You remember those crappy netbooks from around 2010? Something that size, but with Apple’s industrial design and an M-series chip.

Isn't that basically an iPad mini? At that size, what would you prefer to use macOS for over iOS?
 
The only issue is that the AVP was conceived as a platform in its own right - to ultimately take over from the iPhone, if the displays can be sufficiently miniaturised.
We are very far from that, even if it ever happens. Many people who use a phone wouldn't want to wear glasses or even contacts all the time to use something like a future version of the Apple Vision Pro.

I get that device consolidation is a thing - the current smart phone is also a camera, video camera, personal digital assistant, gaming system, access point to the Internet (e.g.: vast info. resources, weather forecast), GPS, etc...

But a device that has to be worn on the face to use...I don't foresee the widespread adoption that smart phones have.
 
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But a device that has to be worn on the face to use...I don't foresee the widespread adoption that smart phones have.

I don't really either. But I think that was Apple's ultimate intention with the AVP. I don't think they intended it to just be a niche gadget like an Occulus Quest.

When it came out, they were talking about it starting a new era of 'spatial computing'. It seemed pitched as a high-end technology demonstrator, that would inspire people to start creating unique apps and experiences that we'd all clamour to use. But at this rate it will be lucky to see a v2.
 
Smaller iPhone, Macbook, Watch. Not bigger.

Reasonable upgrade prices for the Macs, or even better the return of user upgradeability.

A focus on software performance and stability rather than just adding new features and neglecting the existing.
 
When it came out, they were talking about it starting a new era of 'spatial computing'.
Perhaps some advances could be on the 2025 wish list (albeit they'll take longer).

I've used the Google Maps street view to take a look around places I plan to go, or just sight see. Imagine if that type of functionality with Apple Maps could be integrated with the AVP, such that you could get the sense of standing on a 'moving sidewalk' and turn your head and look around. It'd probably require reshooting neighborhoods, ect..., in a more extreme way.

Similarly, zoos, public aquaria and other big attractions could offer AVP experiences with some of their exhibits. So could amusement parks - so Disney World in Orlando could give you the experience of a couple of their roller coaster rides, etc...

Some of the better experiences could even have a small fee. There's a thought...imagine expanding the role of the AVP to be a modern on-your-face VCR/t.v. combo. for immersive 3-D video rentals. So if you want a live action walk-through in a Peruvian jungle, or an Indonesian coral reef dive, or an extreme roller coaster ride, pay $50 or what-have-you to rent the experience, or $10 to buy it.

Never mind what the actual movie producers could do. This next one could give some people panic attacks or PTSD, but think of it. Someone puts together a walkable version of Camp Crystal Lake from the Friday the 13th movie series, and the killer is hunting you (you'd have to be a pretty extreme horror fan). Or walking the jungle of Jurassic Park.

Pay-per-view for streaming or downloadable 'you are there' video content could help drive sales. I don't follow the AVP closely; maybe there are already such experiences on offer?

If you want to monetize something to subsidize development, either make it entertaining or useful in industry.

So, virtual tourism and 'first person virtual experiences' for a fee could lead to a cash influx.
 
Fine - put it into their displays.

But that would change a Mac mini from affordable to out of reach for many.

As with anything else in and out of the walled garden, Apple is not forcing Mac mini users to buy Apple displays. People who want to save a buck can use an aftermarket display (and Apple‘s touch ID keyboard if they really need the biometrics). It’s the Apple way, you can use third-party peripherals, but Apple‘s own peripherals give you more.
 
I don't follow the AVP closely; maybe there are already such experiences on offer?

Neither do I, but I think they said on the ATP podcast recently that the total minutes of content available had recently exceeded the length of the keynote that introduced the AVP (about 70 mins, IIRC).

One thing to watch out for with VR in general is the issue of the content moving without you physically moving. Stuff like rollercoaster simulators sound cool, but can make you really nauseous. People with a lot of hours in VR assure me that after a while you get desensitised to it, but it's certainly a hurdle for the casual user.
 
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They could even release a standalone webcam that includes it.

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iSight 2.0 :cool:

 


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tvOS with better search app that searches through the apps you have downloaded / installed on your AppleTV desktop and shows you which of them offers the show you want to watch. Still very hard to reliably find shows when you're not sure which paid provider carries it. Google can figure it out, why can't Apple?
 
Isn't that basically an iPad mini? At that size, what would you prefer to use macOS for over iOS?
I work at a desk 99% of the time with my MBA docked, sometimes in clamshell, primarily working from large monitors, hot-desking from various locations. My work pretty much just requires MS office apps and web apps, which is why I’d happily use my phone if it could provide a desktop UI when docked. Failing that a tiny MacBook would be great, the smaller and lighter the better. (Perhaps I should indeed try an iPad - I’d prefer the mini, but it doesn’t support stage manager).
 
More powerful MacBook Pros:

Cheaper RAM.
Moar RAM.
Faster RAM.
Higher bandwidth memory interfaces.
Enhance thermal architecture and improved chasis for thermal optimization -- ignore the vanity of thinness.
Larger caches.
Power changes to support the above.
 
Stop working on Car products, switch to supporting software and hardware for sustainable transit: trains, buses, bicycles, walking.
 
Siri supporting Polish languange.
If you want to try current try what I’m experiencing switch Siri to non English and let it read your sms/text messages for you in CarPlay mode…. This is no longer funny
 
give the iPad mini smaller bezels to the extent that it adds as much as possible to the display size. No OLED display, but increase storage to one terabyte and ram to 16GB. That’s if a device that small could take that much ram. Of course don’t make its footprint any bigger.. I would buy that in a heartbeat.
 
I wish Apple would produce a low cost MacBook, like the one I had for £399. It was plastic, but it would do a lot of what I wanted and introduced me to the Mac ecosystem. I went from there to a Titanium G4 and haven't look back since! Now I have everything Mac!

If Apple did this, they could introduce younger students and kids to Mac at a young age and keep them for life.
 
I wish Apple would produce a low cost MacBook, like the one I had for £399. It was plastic, but it would do a lot of what I wanted and introduced me to the Mac ecosystem. I went from there to a Titanium G4 and haven't look back since! Now I have everything Mac!

If Apple did this, they could introduce younger students and kids to Mac at a young age and keep them for life.

Ebay's full of £400 M1 Airs in excellent condition. Yeah, no AppleCare, but probably not an issue at this price level (and with no moving parts).
 
I would love it if Apple would release a ultra wide monitor; of course the only problem is it would only have 1 input and thus be completely useless for my setup, which has 3 computers hooked to the same monitor; while also routing a single keyboard and mouse to the appropriate machine in use at the time.
 
I would love it if Apple would release a ultra wide monitor; of course the only problem is it would only have 1 input and thus be completely useless for my setup, which has 3 computers hooked to the same monitor; while also routing a single keyboard and mouse to the appropriate machine in use at the time.

The other problem is that at 220ppi, it would need to be something like 8K wide and therefore cost a fortune. Plus it would probably top out at 60Hz. You may also struggle to find a reasonably priced KVM that can handle the necessary bandwidth.
 
The other problem is that at 220ppi, it would need to be something like 8K wide and therefore cost a fortune. Plus it would probably top out at 60Hz. You may also struggle to find a reasonably priced KVM that can handle the necessary bandwidth.
True.

Samsung makes this thing @240Hz; but the resolution seems odd since the traditional high end ultra wide was 38" 3840 x 1600. One would think it should have been 7680 x 3200; I would love to have the latter and run it HiDPI as a 3840 x 1600. Size could be 38" - 42".

This one from Dell isn't too bad, but the resolution could be better; and it only has 1 USB upstream port. I prefer wired keyboards; maybe bite the bullet and get bluetooth ones that can connect to 3 machines.

Maybe next week CES will offer some surprises.
 
Samsung makes this thing @240Hz; but the resolution seems odd since the traditional high end ultra wide was 38" 3840 x 1600. One would think it should have been 7680 x 3200; I would love to have the latter and run it HiDPI as a 3840 x 1600. Size could be 38" - 42".

At 57", that works out at 139dpi. That's a similar ppi to a 32" 4K screen (137ppi). Nothing to scoff at, but a long way below Retina (pre-Retina was 110dpi). So depending on one's eyesight, it may look disappointing to Mac users used to MBPs, iMacs and Studio Displays. I find 163dpi on my 27" 4K monitor looks great on Windows and macOS, but going too much lower would sacrifice the HiDPI effect.

This one from Dell isn't too bad, but the resolution could be better; and it only has 1 USB upstream port.

That one has the same ppi as the Samsung, only with a smaller screen, so the same caveats apply.

I prefer wired keyboards; maybe bite the bullet and get bluetooth ones that can connect to 3 machines.

I'd highly recommend the Logitech MX Keys. I had a full-size Magic Keyboard when I had the Mac Pro and loved it, but the MX is even better. It's nearly as flat, but has longer key travel, scalloped key caps, and I always notice how great it feels to type on. The backlighting is nice too. It switches instantly between 3 devices, and my version has legends for both PC and Mac. I still mix up " and @ constantly after a year and half, but some habits die hard!

There's a mechanical version if you're into those. It has lower profile key caps than typical; I'd like to try out one at some point. Could get the Mini version to replace the K380 I use with my Intuos M tablet (to reduce the total width on my desk). Though tbh, there's nothing wrong with the K380 - like the MX, it's very solid and well made.
 
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