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What does Windows do right?
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Hey.
I tried using Acronis Disk Director Suite or something on the Windows com, and tried to create my third partition without losing my data. However, it failed. However, now the supposedly 3gb extra partition is not there, and the disk has gone from 11gb to 8gb left!. If i backup everything and reformat my external drive, will be regain the 3gb loss? seems like windows does not do anything right at all..
They make jobs for a lot of people who fix computers for a living.
OMG, I just checked that out, that is SOOOOO STUPID! I thought you meant a restore button after the Recycle Bin is emptied. You actually need a restore button to put the file back?
Oh, I see, I understand now, Windows requires the application to be put back where it was deleted from, say like the Registry. Yes, yes, I forgot the retarded Windows Registry doesn't allow you to just delete a file without jacking up other programs.
That's just ONE of the reasons why I don't use Windows anymore and just ONE of the things Windows does wrong and the Mac does it right.
Macs don't require applications to be placed back in the original position in order to operate. You can take application out of the Trash and place it on the desktop and it will work without a thought.
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Hmm, it's weird that you went out of your way to point out what Windows does right but you openly admitted you switched.
Who said anything about applications
.Say you have 30 documents in your trash all from different folders from around your computer and you want to put them all back in there correct place what do you do if you are on a mac spend ages remembering where they came from and spend ages manually putting them back in the correct place. On Windows select them all and press restore.
Hmm, it's weird that you went out of your way to point out what Windows does right but you openly admitted you switched.
You don't seem to understand that I don't live a binary existence. To me, both XP and Tiger are fine operating systems. I simply switched to Tiger because I wanted to try out a new OS, and I wanted to try a specific program that only ran on Tiger. Does this confuse you somehow? Windows does plenty of things "right", as millions of users who don't attach their personal identities to operating systems would attest. If you find my use of Tiger to be some sort of "concession", I feel sorry for you. People really don't give a damn what OS you use in the real world.
Who said anything about applications
Say you have 30 documents in your trash all from different folders from around your computer and you want to put them all back in there correct place what do you do if you are on a mac spend ages remembering where they came from and spend ages manually putting them back in the correct place. On Windows select them all and press restore.
Dude, come on, get real okay. You're whole statement sounds more retarded than the last one. There should be no reason for anyone to dump more than one or two files into the Trash that they truly needed. If you dump 30 documents you obviously meant to. You mean to tell me after dumping all those files you suddenly realized you needed them put back in their rightful places?
Totally agree with you on this. When I decide I want something from the bin, I don't want to have to put together where it came from; I want it to go *back* to where it was before I deleted it. XP gets that. OS X seems to say "you're on your own" once you put something in the bin.
Dude, come on, get real okay. You're whole statement sounds more retarded than the last one. There should be no reason for anyone to dump more than one or two files into the Trash that they truly needed. If you dump 30 documents you obviously meant to. You mean to tell me after dumping all those files you suddenly realized you needed them put back in their rightful places?
That was an exaggerated example
. Even if you have only one in there when you realise you want to put it back and it came from a deeply nested folder it will be so much easier just to press restore. It is a simple feature that would make like so much easier and if you can't see the benefit of having it you need to stop thinking OS X is the be all and end all.And it has happened especially with Leopard and the default saved searches, I have read thread on here about people who thought the were just alias to the actually files and deleted all of the contents.
Read post number 32 because your post doesn't say a whole lot. Most people dump one or two files and if they need them again, they just drag them out of the trash and back. A restore button is placed in Windows because of the Registry. You have to be a little unstable to dump SO many files that you have to place them all back.
Maybe that's how you use computers, but in my experience, most people delete a lot of stuff, and only occasionally empty out their recycling/trash bins when they happen to notice them. Sometimes you delete stuff accidentally - like entire folders - or sometimes you knock out important system files while deleting stuff. It happens. And it's a lot easier to fix when your bin offers a restore feature. http://www.xvsxp.com/files/deleting_manage.php
That was an exaggerated example
Well, back at cha, you are doing the same thing by pointing out how retarded OS X is because it lacks the restore button. You are trying to evade the issue that Windows NEEDS that button in the Recycle Bin because the Registry manages all the files. Macs don't require the files to be placed back properly to function.
See, unlike many Windows users who don't know the Mac I have owned Windows PC's in the past and built two of them so I know the ups and downs of both the Mac OS and Windows.
There should be no reason for anyone to accidentally delete a very embedded bunch of files unless they meant to, you should know what you are doing with your computer.
It may have been developed originally for the registry who knows not me and probably not you but it is a very useful feature one that has definitely migrated itself into being a normal user tool. Many people come from windows and expect to see this feature in the wonderful all powerful OS X only to find out that once you put something in the trash OS X couldn't give a stuff about you.
It is an example where it really does matter because you don't want to accidentally delete something so the ability to undo this is very important. It would be almost trivial for them to add and would make a big difference.
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Windows doesn't need your report into granulation inside the folder /Users/username/Documents/University/4th Year/Research Project/Experimental Data/Batch 1 to be in the correct place to work properly.
Say you just opened trash and realised that you accidentally put that file in there a couple of days ago and want it back in its original place. What is easier pressing restore on that one file not needing to know where it came from. Or navigating through all those folders again to put it back in its place.Dude, you're the one who's evading. It's been pointed out already that we aren't even talking about applications or registries. We're talking about regular, down-to-earth documents and files and folders. If I delete a folder of pictures in OS X, I've got to go to the trash and drag them back to wherever the hell they were in order to get them back to where I left them. Windows does this with a single click. Why is this so hard for you to accept?
True, but the Restore button doesn't recover deleted files, it only handles what you've put in the trash.
Um, I'll have to disagree with you about coming from Windows and expecting that feature. I mentioned earlier that I have owned and built a few Windows PCs and never paid attention to that feature. That's just you and a few that care about that. But if that feature is too important to miss then don't switch to the Mac.
That is exactly what I have been talking about all along
, perhaps read my posts and if you have been a windows user like I said you would know that is isn't about the registry and what the restore button actually did.Good view point, if you don't like how it is you can **** off, great way to improve the system.
I have been a mac user for 4 years now and would dearly love to see this feature. If you are too narrow minded to see this would be useful and think it is only me who thinks this then I cant convince you anyway. Oh and BTW I have built my own PCs and have been a windows user all my life. I like to take an objective view and I can see when one OS is better than the other.
Lets go onto another point.
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What DOES Windows do right? It only has like 90% of the market. But other than that, it's awful.
I finally found the thread I was looking for see this
granted this person was new to macs when this happened but it is a point where they were absolutely screwed because of what they did. If they did it in windows they could've just pressed the restore button and all would have been well.
Yesterday I ran into a problem I did not know existed. I am quite new to mac..... I went to check "Last Week" in search side bar, in finder. I thought it was just history, so I deleted it all. It went into trash. Then I realized it acctually moved all the apps I used, files, prefs and so on into trash. I thought I could just restore items to its original locations. Peace of cake in windows, just click "restore". I found out I could not do it on my Mac. Yes, I know I could drag them back, but I did not know where most of the files originally came from. I searched the internet - found nothing, only that it is impossible to do. Is it true? I can not restore files I moved to trash? I tried time machine - did not work. The only way I could use - to restore the system using time machine when booted from Leopard disk. Is this the only way to restore something I moved to the trash???? There gotta be something I missing
granted this person was new to macs when this happened but it is a point where they were absolutely screwed because of what they did. If they did it in windows they could've just pressed the restore button and all would have been well.
Okay, I am correct in understanding that you don't use OS X and you are a Windows only user? If I am correct may I ask why are you here? If you are Mac user may I ask why you are putting forth effort to argue about a feature not available on the Mac?
If you use both, my I ask why?
If you are going to partake in a debate pleaase listen (or in this case read) the other side
Because it is a good feature and a useful one. After all if people didn't come up with new features/borrow them we wouldn't have features in Leopard because they weren't available in Tiger.
I have o use windows computer at university because mac software to control the lab equipment isn't available. Also my parents use windows computers and so do most offices around the world. In the office situation you may not be allowed o use your own computer and as such you will have to use windows.
Also I understand that OS X doesn't do anything 100% right and there are better slutions out there. I am doing more for the OS X cause then you are because I am suggesting ways of improving it whereas you are basically saying if you don't like how it is don't use it and your arguments seem more like someone who is pedalling the stereotypical view of windows rather than looking at the situation objectively.
May I ask why you guys are getting so uppity and personal about a function in an operating system? I think the 'restore' function is quite handy - why do I care that it's there to keep the registry happy? - but it's not a reason for me to go back to windows.
The other extremely minor thing that Windows 'does right' is switch the light off my pen drive so I know it is safe to pull out of the computer...
The other extremely minor thing that Windows 'does right' is switch the light off my pen drive so I know it is safe to pull out of the computer...
By arguing about a feature you wish was on OS X in a public forum isn't truly helping the cause, if you want to help the cause report your concerns to Apple. It's quite fun to debate on the forums as long as people refrain from name calling but to say you are helping the cause? No you're not if you are only speaking out here. Apple doesn't read these forums.
This is such B.S. I don't know where to begin, so I'll just leave it at that. Dude, you sound like you're in a freaking cult. There Is No "Cause". Please, get some fresh air. People are simply talking about ways to improve OS X. This is a discussion forum, where such discussions are encouraged. If you want an echo-forum, where people talk of nothing but how great OS X is, there are plenty of rabid Apple fanboiii sites to join. Thank goodness, MR isn't one of them!
Where did I say I was only posting on here?
I have submitted this to apple several times and by debating it on here I am making others aware of a feature that may benefit them and opening their eyes. These people may or may not then submit feedback to apple.
Also are we not allowed to talk about features we want?
How is my promotion of a feature hurting the cause in comparison to what essentially surmounts to blind stereotypical answers. Many people do not register and read the threads some one who are windows users and when they see arguments that are based on incorrect facts about windows they only see the fanboy nature of these forums and it is a turn off.
How do you know apple doesn't read these forums?
Don't worry I won't respond anymore but you need to go out for some fresh air then come back and read the title of this thread, The OP was asking (rhetorically) what Windows does right? It was never about ways to improve OS X but don't worry DUDE, I'm cool, I realize who I am dealing with here.