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It was never about ways to improve OS X

Surprise, surprise, the thread changed. If you can't handle that, perhaps you're a little too invested in OS X to look at it evenly. A flaw in your Mac shouldn't get you this upset. Just take deep breaths. Even something as wonderful as OS X can be improved. Just look at all the people with frozen Leopard keyboards...
 
Don't worry I won't respond anymore but you need to go out for some fresh air then come back and read the title of this thread, The OP was asking (rhetorically) what Windows does right? It was never about ways to improve OS X but don't worry DUDE, I'm cool, I realize who I am dealing with here.

Well if you just read the thread title then all answers given are correct.
 
Windows supports the new 8800GT 512's. Can't say the same about OS X... (Someone should really change the thread title)
 
Uh, Windows does crashes right? Or it gives tech support guys job security?

On the serious side, Microsoft did a lot right with Visual Basic, VBA and .Net. They provided quick development tools that allowed a great deal of corporate software to be written for Windows very fast.

We still have a few VB4/5 apps running here. I'm sure we are not allow in the corporate world.

Windows also does a decent job at backward compatibility. The fact that you can still run old apps under XP is pretty good. Apple faked backward compatibility with OS X and Classic.
 
Windows does games right.

Games and - although it isn't Windows vs. OSX - hardware compatibility/upgrade ability. One year while working for Apple I spent my bonus on an Alienware, which basically did nothing but act as a torrent station and gaming system.

... also my colleagues 'loved it' when I wore my the free Alienware t-shirt I got to work. :rolleyes:
 
This has certainly turned into a Mac vs PC thread.

I don't feel like joining it, but i'll a couple of cents.

I use a Mac cuz I just want to use a Mac, it works. I'm on this website to spread helpful information, not fanboyism ****. While I probably could be doing something better with my time, I end up on these kind of websites helping out people with new Macs.

If Mac's were the gods of all computers, maybe they would have 90% of the computer market share, but they DON'T.

People don't want to pay 1200 dollars for a laptop. They want a $500 laptop. While I never expect apple to do that, I think they should price their laptops a bit more competitively.

I have trouble switching some people to Macs because they find such great deals on PC's, I'm backed in the corner looking like a jackass.
 
People don't want to pay 1200 dollars for a laptop. They want a $500 laptop. While I never expect apple to do that, I think they should price their laptops a bit more competitively.
People will pay $1200 for a laptop, and not just for Macs. If that wasn't the case, no hardware company would be offering such "expensive" laptops. But clearly they are.
I have trouble switching some people to Macs because they find such great deals on PC's, I'm backed in the corner looking like a jackass.
These people are seemingly just concerned with the final cost and are not even considering what they are getting for their money. I have an axiom that states "The average consumer is an idiot." I think this demonstrates that.
 
If you are going to partake in a debate pleaase listen (or in this case read) the other side




<I have o use windows computer at university because mac software to control the lab equipment isn't available.>

Huh? bet the control software is available for Linux, and if it is it's available for Mac OSX which is just a fancied up BSD Unix operating system.!

<and so do most offices around the world.>

This is because the office managers have been sold a bill of goods on office software.
They are stuck because they spent bukuu bucks on the MicroSnot Office bundles and have to justify the expense.
I use NeoOffice, OpenOffice (both are freeware, OpenOffice is multiplatform) and AppleWorks to do the same stuff. And all the Documents are readable by the WinDoze MicrSnott programs!

<In the office situation you may not be allowed o use your own computer and as such you will have to use windows.>

You may want to rethink that one. My wife works in a Major Insurance company, where they use both Macs and Windoze machines.

As for putting stuff back, unless they killed the key combination, which I haven't tried in Leopard yet, try pressing the 'Command' key and 'Y' key at the same time when in the "Trash" window with the stuff you want back hi-lighted. For all OS's from 8.1 up this will put stuff back in the original position.

<Also I understand that OS X doesn't do anything 100% right and there are better slutions out there. I am doing more for the OS X cause then you are because I am suggesting ways of improving it whereas you are basically saying if you don't like how it is don't use it and your arguments seem more like someone who is pedalling the stereotypical view of windows rather than looking at the situation objectively.
>

If you want the Replace Button stuff, Write to Apple and suggest it. They do listen, even if they can't always implement stuff. Or open up Applescript and write yourself a little doo-hickie to do what you want.

Bunch of .jpg, or .gif, or .tif , or any other type of pic? In trash?

Drop 'em on the desktop and open the program you want. It'll open them.
Right-click one of them (or 'Control'-click if you have a one button mouse) and choose your program from the drop-down menu! No Big Deal!:apple:
 
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If you want the Replace Button stuff, Write to Apple and suggest it. They do listen, even if they can't always implement stuff. Or open up Applescript and write yourself a little doo-hickie to do what you want.

Bunch of .jpg, or .gif, or .tif , or any other type of pic? In trash?

Drop 'em on the desktop and open the program you want. It'll open them.
Right-click one of them (or 'Control'-click if you have a one button mouse) and choose your program from the drop-down menu! No Big Deal!:apple:

If you have actually read the thread you will have realised that I have written to apple on multiple occasions.

Regarding applescript do you know how difficult it would be to write this and it would have to run all the time to keep track of where all your files are and where they all came from. This would be a resource hog and would be duplicating so much work that has already been done by apple.
 
Lepoard for PC

Hello.

I want some help, 'cos I want to install OS X 10.5.1 on my PC.
I'va got the right DVD, but other problems appeared after the first installation:
- the max. resolution was 1024x768 in my Lepoard - but my display can show 1280x1024 too. Why?
- after the second boot, my keyboard and mouse were frozen: they doesn't move, they were useless. So I had to reinstall XP, which I use right now too :( (keyboard+Mouse: Logitech S510)
- I can't use my sound card with the Leo (integreted on my Intel Grand County D101GGC)

Please help me! The most important is to use my mouse to us te OS X

Thank you, imarci
 
^ Leopard's buggy enough on the hardware it was designed to run. I wouldn't want to try it on a PC. In the end, you'll never get things to work as smoothly as when you run OS X on approved hardware.
 
Re ^

Yes, I know, and thanks for your answer.

But I haven't got enough cash to buy a Mac, but I'm a Mac an OS X fan.

So please help my if you can, to get my problems reolved.
 
If you have actually read the thread you will have realised that I have written to apple on multiple occasions.

Regarding applescript do you know how difficult it would be to write this and it would have to run all the time to keep track of where all your files are and where they all came from. This would be a resource hog and would be duplicating so much work that has already been done by apple.

Want to see a resource hog? Take a real close look at Time Machine.
The way it comes it will fill up a 500gig drive in a day because it does a backup every half hour. A full one if you don't exclude something. And each one is exactly like the other. Say you just back up the System Drive of say 27gigs.
in 10 hours you have 20 27gig recovery files. Not good. And that is the only way you can have Time Machine work right, otherwise you won't be able to do what is being advertised for it.:apple:

Plus it is extremely hard to reset the defaults for Time Machine.
 
Want to see a resource hog? Take a real close look at Time Machine.
The way it comes it will fill up a 500gig drive in a day because it does a backup every half hour. A full one if you don't exclude something. And each one is exactly like the other. Say you just back up the System Drive of say 27gigs.
in 10 hours you have 20 27gig recovery files. Not good. And that is the only way you can have Time Machine work right, otherwise you won't be able to do what is being advertised for it.:apple:

Plus it is extremely hard to reset the defaults for Time Machine.

lol 10 hours, 20 backups? it backs up once an hour your math is bonkers.

To top it off, time machine only backs up what's changed. Sometimes my backups are next to nothing in size. Mere kilobytes.
 
lol 10 hours, 20 backups? it backs up once an hour your math is bonkers.

you are right, I just looked back at the splash page, not sure where the 1/2 hour came from - my feverish brain posibly.

To top it off, time machine only backs up what's changed. Sometimes my backups are next to nothing in size. Mere kilobytes.

In order for it to be able to allow you to go back in time - lets say 5 hours your way - and be able to pick the file that you lost some where (deletion, whatever) it doesn't overwrite that file, it writes a second copy, one copy for each hour. Any changes made, new copy. Consider that, and then figure how long your TM drive has before it is filled up.

Plus any of the backup software available now will do the same thing if you set it up right.
And It is still a hog. You have to dedicate a drive to TM. It doesn't like having outside interference on the drive it writes to.:apple:
 
I'm not gonna reread the whole thread, so I'm sure I'll repeat some of what others said:

What does Windows do right?

folder sharing
I'm told alot of my problems would be solved if i installed OSX server, but that isnt' going to happen. I want to be able to select ANY folder and be able to share it to whoever I want.

Refreshing network shares
I'm told there is a script to solve this problem. I shouldn't have to scrip to refresh. Called me spoiled by early windows tech. :rolleyes:

The Start Menu
Oh snap, I went there! It's a nice OPTION that does allow for one more configurable way to your important programs.
the dock is the equivalent of the quickstart bar. If i don't want icons there I'm forced to go into finder.
 
I'm not gonna reread the whole thread, so I'm sure I'll repeat some of what others said:

What does Windows do right?

folder sharing
I'm told alot of my problems would be solved if i installed OSX server, but that isnt' going to happen. I want to be able to select ANY folder and be able to share it to whoever I want.

Refreshing network shares
I'm told there is a script to solve this problem. I shouldn't have to scrip to refresh. Called me spoiled by early windows tech. :rolleyes:

The Start Menu
Oh snap, I went there! It's a nice OPTION that does allow for one more configurable way to your important programs.
the dock is the equivalent of the quickstart bar. If i don't want icons there I'm forced to go into finder.
I'm going to disagree all around.

1) I thought you could put symbolic links in the public folder to share them (could be wrong).
2) Works for me in Leopard better than Windows, Linux, BeOS ever did.
3) While an interesting idea, the start menu became useless once quick searching (ie. Spotlight, Quicksilver, etc) became the norm.
 
The Start Menu
Oh snap, I went there! It's a nice OPTION that does allow for one more configurable way to your important programs.
the dock is the equivalent of the quickstart bar. If i don't want icons there I'm forced to go into finder.

Speaking of the Start Menu, I love that there's a way to call it up from the keyboard - imagine that! A dedicated key to the most important menu in the computer! I guess this is one of those areas where Apple decided to "think different" and spare us the convenience of a simple key to access the Finder.
 
I'm going to disagree all around.

1) I thought you could put symbolic links in the public folder to share them (could be wrong).
2) Works for me in Leopard better than Windows, Linux, BeOS ever did.
3) While an interesting idea, the start menu is useless once quick searching (ie. Spotlight, Quicksilver, etc) became the norm.



1. Assuming that is true (I really don't know, but if it's true I'd like to try it so I can share with windows), there is still a bit more unnecessary complication than in windows.
right click.
share. apply. (by default its to everyone, but i change it to my username.)

2. It does appear to work better in leopard than in tiger. My MP is still on tiger while MBP is on leopard. So I'll concede that one. I won't say it works better than windows but I'll def say its stepped up .

3. This i'll have to disagree. its only useless if you prefer typing and if you love typing the run menu can be made to emulate what your achieving with spotlight.
 
1. Assuming that is true (I really don't know, but if it's true I'd like to try it so I can share with windows), there is still a bit more unnecessary complication than in windows.
right click.
share. apply. (by default its to everyone, but i change it to my username.)

2. It does appear to work better in leopard than in tiger. My MP is still on tiger while MBP is on leopard. So I'll concede that one. I won't say it works better than windows but I'll def say its stepped up .

3. This i'll have to disagree. its only useless if you prefer typing and if you love typing the run menu can be made to emulate what your achieving with spotlight.
1. I know folder aliases don't work (unfortunately) but I haven't tried sym links yet.

2. Your Windows system must work better than anyone else's I know. Ex. Whenever a computer is disconnected and you try to reconnect to it Windows sits there and freezes for a few minutes. Tiger does the same thing but Leopard is smart enough to know the system is gone. Also, getting it to work is the hardest part. (Microsoft needs to consolidate it's sharing preferences instead of throwing them across the system).

3. Cmd+Space "Saf" Enter and Safari is launched. A lot easier and quicker than Windows key, arrow key, arrow key, arrow key, arrow key, arrow key to what you want. (my guess on this one is that we agree to disagree).
 
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