Yup. Me. 100% gaming. I do everything else on Apple products, except I have a raspberry pi as a streamer on my TV.
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Flight Simulator is a known violator and is one of the few games (not really a game; it’s in the name) that is more CPU dependant than GPU. I was not aware that Fortnite was a RAM hog but that entire genre is one I know little of. Can you give me further examples of games that push system RAM past 32GB?
I get that! But I did specify 100% gaming PC. Which I’ve seen people state here (and which isn’t weird to me, as that’s what I have)
there are games that are starting to have 32GB as recommended. But Stalker 2 is probably more of an exception due to how heavy and ambitious the game is.
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another one. Indiana Jones, again, an exceptional game, akin to crysis back in late 00s. Recommended is 32G. We are probably not getting many more games like this since if your game is hard to run on commodity hardware (16GB RAM 6 core cpu with a RTX 4060, according to steam survey) then you are limiting out a big chunk of your potential customer base
Fair enough - I'm largely of the opinion that most people who build/buy gaming PCs use them for other things, whether its surfing, facebook or various other tasks.
I look at it not so much that I 'refuse to game with Apple products' but rather than 'Apple refuses to make it viable for gaming on their products'.
I'm saddened as someone who had an Apple ][+ when Apple was a target for the best games of the late 80s (sadly too busy in grad school to enjoy them!) and even the late 90s / early 2000s when it felt like more than half of the top games came to Mac and within 6 months of Windows and sometimes played better than on comparable PC laptops (thinking Jedi Knight II). But that 'golden age' was 20 years ago.
Only got back into PC gaming this year. I haven't had a PC for more than 20 years, so i went to a local company to build be me the following rig:
AMD Ryzen 7 9800XD
Gigabyte X870 Eagle
Gigabyte Eagle 5070 Ti
G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 2x16gb
I'm pretty happy with the rig!
AMD Ryzen 7 9800XD
Gigabyte X870 Eagle
Gigabyte Eagle 5070 Ti
G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 2x16gb
I'm pretty happy with the rig!
There's one or two of you guys, you may break into the top ten steam survey this month
Paid CAD$105 for my 32GB of RAM. Today's price for the same RAM modules, CAD$251. Ouch.
Not a 100% gaming rig in my case, but if it were I would still have gone with 64GB. To answer your question - mostly yes to future-proofing, but also simply because the difference in price between 32GB (the minimum I would consider) and 64GB was relatively small (less than $90 on a machine I was already expecting to pay just over $2k for). For that slight increase in price, I have a machine that currently never runs into RAM bottlenecks and if/when it ever does, I still have two unpopulated RAM slots.
The machine that this one replaced was originally built with 16GB in it and at that time that amount seemed overkill (can't remember the year, but for context, the CPU on that machine is a 2nd Gen Core i7). That system is still in use as a dedicated Minecraft server.
I tend to run machines for a very long time, and my current rig is likely not going to be replaced for at least another five years. I may upgrade the RAM to 128GB if it seems like DDR4 RAM is about to go by the wayside, but otherwise the only other thing that will likely "age" this machine faster than that is the GPU.
But it's just that keeping the web browser and having some VOIP software on is pretty par for the course and expected for a gaming PC. A pure "launch Assasins Creed and make sure to kill all background processes"-machine is not something I could say build or advice someone to build as most people will not like a literal interpretation of "100% gaming only" and subsequently be disappointed when they have to quit Discord.
Anything over 32GB seems overkill for this kind of purpose, agreed. But RAM used to be cheap.
Discord for streaming or/and voice chat still counts as gaming‼️
At least while a game is running.
Built this in March 2023:
Right now I am anticipating my new ceramic keyboard from Keychron to add to my setup.
- AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5GHz 16C/32T 170W 64MB Cache AM5 CPU
- ASUS GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Noctua OC
- Corsair Vengeance DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 5200MHz Memory
- Noctua NH-U12A Premium 120mm CPU Cooler
- 3x Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM 120mm fans
- FSP Hydro PTM Pro 1000W Semi-Fanless Modular PSU, 80+ Platinum
- 2x Samsung 990 PRO 2TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD
Right now I am anticipating my new ceramic keyboard from Keychron to add to my setup.
For gaming I'm about 50/50 on a SteamDeck & PC running Bazzite Linux (7800x3d, rtx 4090). The PC is 100% for gaming. I use a Macbook Pro and Mac Studio for everything else.
In order of least played to most
PS4 (almost never now, upgraded the HDD to 1TB)
"Gaming" PC (upgraded this summer to AM5/DDR5 before the price hikes, Ryzen 7600x, Radeon 7800XT, 32GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, 1TB SSD, 3TB HDD)
Steam Deck (base model upgraded with a 2TB NVMe and 1TB mSD card)
Mac Strudio (M1 Max, base model, several Thnderbolt drives for storage)
14 inch Macbook Pro (Recently aquired to replace my older model, M2 Max with 32GB RAM, 2TB internal and a 2TB extral magsafe drive)
PS4 (almost never now, upgraded the HDD to 1TB)
"Gaming" PC (upgraded this summer to AM5/DDR5 before the price hikes, Ryzen 7600x, Radeon 7800XT, 32GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, 1TB SSD, 3TB HDD)
Steam Deck (base model upgraded with a 2TB NVMe and 1TB mSD card)
Mac Strudio (M1 Max, base model, several Thnderbolt drives for storage)
14 inch Macbook Pro (Recently aquired to replace my older model, M2 Max with 32GB RAM, 2TB internal and a 2TB extral magsafe drive)
there are games that are starting to have 32GB as recommended. But Stalker 2 is probably more of an exception due to how heavy and ambitious the game is.
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another one. Indiana Jones, again, an exceptional game, akin to crysis back in late 00s. Recommended is 32G. We are probably not getting many more games like this since if your game is hard to run on commodity hardware (16GB RAM 6 core cpu with a RTX 4060, according to steam survey) then you are limiting out a big chunk of your potential customer base
In the case of the Indiana Jones game it not only wants more then 16GB RAM, but it won't run at all on videocards with 8GB of VRAM (which is still a sizeable percentage of the user base). Like Stalker, it is an outlier in terms of system requirements/recommended specs, and I think both games have suffered to some extent because of how many users they have excluded from the start.
Most people do use a gaming PC for other purposes, myself included. After all, most people do not have multiple computers unless they have a home system and one issued by their employer.
RAM prices are definitely inflated well above actual cost right now. When I upgraded, I was able to sell my old platform (Ryzen 9 5900x, MSI Tomahawk Max WiFi, 32GB DDR4) to recoup the cost of DDR5, so I wound up paying around $700 all-in for the 9800X3D, MSI X870e Tomahawk WiFi and 32GB DDR5 RAM.
Ah, somewhat disappointing. I was hoping for a more typical Linux distro, usually I run into issues trying to do work stuff on Android tabs. WSL is slightly less troublesome.
That's not true, the minimum specs are 8GB cards. It needs hardware RT, but it's even possible to run it on a pretty meagre 6GB Intel Arc A380.
Is that actually true? I would think that it would be fairly common for normal people to have both a desktop and a laptop, at least. Or maybe my friends are just too nerdy.
Various: Dell Linux(Debian,Arch) desktops, ThinkPads with Linux(Debian,Arch), 2015 Macbook pro 15 inch.
My m4 mac mini has been the first mac desktop I've used in 20 years (imac G5 was the last).
Over the summer, I used my Mac 99% of the time because my PC puts out a lot of heat. The only game I own that plays on Mac is the Sims 4. On PC, I mostly play Fortnite and just got Dying Light-The Beast to play on PC.
Now that fall and winter is here, I find myself spending more time on the PC than the Mac. It's nice to have a furnace going when it's cold.
I just built a new gaming PC after Newegg ran a crazy sale on an intel bundle with "free ram" about a month ago. I got a 265KF, a z890 MSI Edge motherboard and 32GB DDR5 RAM for $450 total after tax.
I upgraded my 3080 to a 5070Ti. There was a crazy 20% off Paypal deal when using pay in 4, so the GPU was like $580 after taxes.
The final piece of hardware I needed was a 4K monitor and I got one with a KVM switch so switching between Mac and PC is a breeze. The Mac UI looks a lot better on 4K than Windows does.
Over the summer, I used my Mac 99% of the time because my PC puts out a lot of heat. The only game I own that plays on Mac is the Sims 4. On PC, I mostly play Fortnite and just got Dying Light-The Beast to play on PC.
Now that fall and winter is here, I find myself spending more time on the PC than the Mac. It's nice to have a furnace going when it's cold.
I just built a new gaming PC after Newegg ran a crazy sale on an intel bundle with "free ram" about a month ago. I got a 265KF, a z890 MSI Edge motherboard and 32GB DDR5 RAM for $450 total after tax.
I upgraded my 3080 to a 5070Ti. There was a crazy 20% off Paypal deal when using pay in 4, so the GPU was like $580 after taxes.
The final piece of hardware I needed was a 4K monitor and I got one with a KVM switch so switching between Mac and PC is a breeze. The Mac UI looks a lot better on 4K than Windows does.