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What have you done with a PowerPC today?

I got my ADC monitor (acrylic Cinema Display) yesterday for my G5, although it only came after I wasted money and time trying to get the ADC/DVI converter for a different DVI monitor and discovering that it converted an ADC monitor to a DVI cable and not the other way around like I actually needed it for. My GPU is a holy grail that has 1 DVI (for the aluminum Cinema Display) and 1 ADC, so this adapter was useless.

I used it earlier today with my aluminum Cinema Display and despite how they clash visually, it's the G5 setup I wanted for a while. Now I can have iTunes open on the acrylic display while I edit my blog posts or novel on the aluminum display. Although it needs a book to prop up at the angle I want it to display, the acrylic Cinema Display does include a few bonuses like a power button right on the monitor, which sure is convenient at the very least.
 
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mac57mac57 said:
I love those acrylic displays @JackAHyde! I have one for my G4 Cube and it is just fabulous. I can see why you would want one. Enjoy!
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Honestly, I mostly got it more because the GPU I use has one DVI and one ADC instead of two DVI ports. I do like it, sure, but I would have preferred two monitors that match better. Plus, the little rubber feet that it should have are missing, which is why I have a book and some cardboard to prop it up until my rubber feet replacements arrive from Amazon.
 
Understood, @JackAHyde. If it is any consolation, the back support on mine is also propped up with a book! Been like that since I got it. It is still an excellent display. In the vintage Mac business, you have to accept some flaws from time to time, as long as they don't impact performance.
 
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What have I done? Tried, quite hard, to get a working Sorbet Leopard disk built and booted. Absolutely no joy. Machine: 17" G4 SLSD. More study needed.
 
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What have I done? Tried, quite hard, to get a working Sorbet Leopard disk built and booted. Absolutely no joy. Machine: 17" G4 SLSD. More study needed.
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You probably are doing it wrong. ;) Use CCC or SuperDuper and follow the instructions exactly.

If you cannot get it done with the Intel machine, install std Leopard to the G4, when it works partition the drive to 2 partitions and install Sorbet to the second partition with CCC or SD. Maybe that will do the job?
 
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ToniCH said:
You probably are doing it wrong. ;) Use CCC or SuperDuper and follow the instructions exactly.

If you cannot get it done with the Intel machine, install std Leopard to the G4, when it works partition the drive to 2 partitions and install Sorbet to the second partition with CCC or SD. Maybe that will do the job?
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I will try again from the G4 using Tiger. I have not yet found a copy of Leopard that will install.
 
Well, no matter what I do, I cannot get anything beyond Tiger on to any disk and have it work. Same for Sorbet Leopard.
For now, I've installed iWork/iLife so that I have usable machine. Just need to sort a browser and mail solution.
 
@DCBassman, I had similar issues when I first started with Sorbet. The key, for me, was to unplug pretty much everything external that I had plugged into the machine except keyboard, mouse, monitor and network, and try again. Sorbet absolutely refused to boot to a working desktop until I did this.

When I did this however, it came right up. When I had it up and running, I methodically reconnected all the external stuff, one by one, until I found the culprit. In my case it was my Apple iSight camera. No boot with it plugged in, full boot without it.

I don't know if you have lots of external stuff plugged into your machine, but if you do, try unplugging what you can and rerun the install.
 
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@DCBassman, I had similar issues when I first started with Sorbet. The key, for me, was to unplug pretty much everything external that I had plugged into the machine except keyboard, mouse, monitor and network, and try again. Sorbet absolutely refused to boot to a working desktop until I did this.

When I did this however, it came right up. When I had it up and running, I methodically reconnected all the external stuff, one by one, until I found the culprit. In my case it was my Apple iSight camera. No boot with it plugged in, full boot without it.

I don't know if you have lots of external stuff plugged into your machine, but if you do, try unplugging what you can and rerun the install.
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It's a tricky one. This is certainly, to some extent, a power issue, as this A1107 is running purely from the power adapter. The internal ODD is disconnected. Secondary boot is from a FW800 dock with its own power. The Sorbet Leopard drive in that dock, all correctly formatted, is invisible to the boot picker. Unless someone can point out a very obvoius fault - the currently-installed SSD booted fine from FW - then I'm stumped.
 
Finally got around to maxing out the RAM on the Six Dollar eMac. Now she's not the lowest RAM in the fleet (that would be... Littorio (ameowli.dev) I think?)

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It's a tricky one. This is certainly, to some extent, a power issue, as this A1107 is running purely from the power adapter. The internal ODD is disconnected. Secondary boot is from a FW800 dock with its own power. The Sorbet Leopard drive in that dock, all correctly formatted, is invisible to the boot picker. Unless someone can point out a very obvoius fault - the currently-installed SSD booted fine from FW - then I'm stumped.
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Well, we cannot point out any faults as you have not shown or explained how you did the install.

Have you tried CCC for cloning in case you didn't manage to config the SD correctly? I think CCC 3.4.7 is correct for Tiger and Leopard. Where did you download the Sorbet from?

Did you manage to install std Leopard? I would next try to complete this, if not successful then you probably will not get Sorbet working either.

I have installed Sorbet to many G4's and G5's but not to the PB 17" you have so I do not know if there is something model specific. I don't remember having any problems in getting it to boot in the ones I've tried.

I even put it into the PB G4 1GHz Titanium with success.

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ToniCH said:
Well, we cannot point out any faults as you have not shown or explained how you did the install.

Have you tried CCC for cloning in case you didn't manage to config the SD correctly? I think CCC 3.4.7 is correct for Tiger and Leopard. Where did you download the Sorbet from?

Did you manage to install std Leopard? I would next try to complete this, if not successful then you probably will not get Sorbet working either.

I have installed Sorbet to many G4's and G5's but not to the PB 17" you have so I do not know if there is something model specific. I don't remember having any problems in getting it to boot in the ones I've tried.

I even put it into the PB G4 1GHz Titanium with success.

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I think my biggest problem is not having a second PPC machine to use for some of the work. I found early on in this process that there are some basic operations that don't work as expected if you use an Intel Mac to do them.
I'm away house-sitting during September. The upside of that is almost limitless Mac time. The downside is an Internet connection slightly more effective than a piece of wet string...
I'll crack it. I just need more time! It's certainly not an odd model in any way, so far as i can tell, it absolutely should work.
 
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I think my biggest problem is not having a second PPC machine to use for some of the work. I found early on in this process that there are some basic operations that don't work as expected if you use an Intel Mac to do them.
I'm away house-sitting during September. The upside of that is almost limitless Mac time. The downside is an Internet connection slightly more effective than a piece of wet string...
I'll crack it. I just need more time! It's certainly not an odd model in any way, so far as i can tell, it absolutely should work.
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It is probably a good idea to install a normal 10.5.8, at least to begin with, before trying some experimental mods.
 
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I think my biggest problem is not having a second PPC machine to use for some of the work. I found early on in this process that there are some basic operations that don't work as expected if you use an Intel Mac to do them.
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I have noticed that Disk utility in newer systems cannot always do what is required in older systems. I've had difficulties in formatting drives correctly when the utility doesn't always offer correct options for partitioning, file system etc.

But, you should be able to do everything with one machine away, it was not a requirement to have multiple machines back then and it should not be now. It might be simpler but should not prevent you from installing an OS.

If you have difficulty in finding a Leopard that works then you might want to search these Retail Leopards: MB021xx/A (10.5), MB427xx/A (10.5.1) and MC094xx/A (10.5.6), these 3 I have myself. And I think the MB576xx/A is 10.5.4. Any of those should work. Lots of them in ebay but not free.

Note: Ignore the xx after the numbers. I think for US and/or British markets the correct end is Z/A? For example MB021Z/A.
 
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I have noticed that Disk utility in newer systems cannot always do what is required in older systems. I've had difficulties in formatting drives correctly when the utility doesn't always offer correct options for partitioning, file system etc.

But, you should be able to do everything with one machine away, it was not a requirement to have multiple machines back then and it should not be now. It might be simpler but should not prevent you from installing an OS.

If you have difficulty in finding a Leopard that works then you might want to search these Retail Leopards: MB021xx/A (10.5), MB427xx/A (10.5.1) and MC094xx/A (10.5.6), these 3 I have myself. And I think the MB576xx/A is 10.5.4. Any of those should work. Lots of them in ebay but not free.

Note: Ignore the xx after the numbers. I think for US and/or British markets the correct end is Z/A? For example MB021Z/A.
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Thanks for that info, will get downloading shortly, because once I'm away, such downloads would take *days*.
 
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