What if apple never abandoned power pc...

[NewbieCanada]

Apple would be selling iPods, iPhones and iPads.

You would create software for them on Windows, since Apple would be out of the computer business.

You also wouldn't be reading this post.

 

[wobegong]

Don't keep looking at modern Power CPU's and extrapolate the Gflops against a consumer Intel, the PPC in an Apple was a cut down and handicapped version so that the machines were affordable - as such it is safe to assume that if Apple continued with PPC architecture the new modern Apple PowerPC would not be anywhere near the performance of a modern 'true' Power CPU as sold in IBM's top line Servers (and it would certainly not be even anything like a PS3 Cell processor, Sony made a loss on each unit even with their millions of units shifted - they sold one hell of a lot more PS3's than Apple sold Macs.

 

[MichaelLAX]

Are you seriously suggesting that an emulator be developed to run Intel apps on the PPC Macs?

yes i am i cant run Trillian dammit

Go buy an Intel Mac Mini!

 

[LeoTheLion89]

Go buy an Intel Mac Mini!

if i wanted a intel mac i would make a hackintosh infact i have hackintoshed my laptop however the wifi quirt workin and im not sure what to do to fix it i really dont even need a laptop anymore i only hackintoshed it to have a intel mac however its impossible to get anything above Leopard on it Snow Leo would KP at boot and i have never been able to fine a Lion OSx86

 

[TacticalDesire]

like i said flops are in terms of super computers ppl go by GHz MB GB not Flops

Are you 10? Fixing grandpas computer and knowing a bit about linux doesn't make you a computer tech. Sorry if I offend, but you honestly need to cool it with the posts. Most of them contribute little to nothing to the topic at hand and make you look like an idiot. Which I am sure you're not. You seem like a nice person. I read in another thread that you like helping people. So do I. Please take my advice. 5 quality posts will be much more helpful to the people here than 15 crappy ones. Find your niche (topics you can be most helpful with) and stick with it.

 

[theSeb]

Thats 65c and it's a different chip. Most of those processors from that era ran hot. Even the Athlon XP's.




Hmm, there was an Asus motherboard for Sandybridge back in January last year that had USB3.

There are many motherboards with USB 3 for a number of years now. They do this via a separate USB 3 controller card, since Intel did not include USB 3 support in the chipset until ivy bridge.

 

[GermanyChris]

like i said flops are in terms of super computers ppl go by GHz MB GB not Flops

FLOPS (Floating Point Operations Per Second)

Ghz=/=FLOPS

 

[Mengele]

Apple would be dead if they stayed with PPC. Their Mac hardware sales doubled overnight when they switched to Intel in 2006.

 

[Liquinn]

I agree too.. Macs with PowerPC chips truly did have souls and they "thought different".

I will never buy a Windows machine again, my next purchase will be a PPC Mac or an Intel Mac

 

[ihuman:D]

Macs were always behind the times they didnt get USB 2.0 for YEARS after PCs got USB 2.0 Windows has had USB 2.0 Support since Windows 98SE! Mac did not exceed the 1GHz threshold until well after Windows PCs had over 1GHz Macs did no exceed 2GHz until the G5 PCs at the time of the last G5 windows had alreaday passed the 3GHz mark not to mention that Apple didnt have 64bit til what Lion? while PCs had 64bit support since late 2005

The G5's were 64bit.

 

[ihuman:D]

There was never a PowerMac G5 released during the whole G5 Macintosh era: PowerBooks were G4 during the whole G5 era. This was because of its tendency to run hot and hence eat batteries.

Apple foresaw the whole movement to portability and PPC chips were not an option.

Their license of the technology underlying Rosetta allowed them to accomplish this move with transparency and ease of use. It was a minor miracle...

I was an owner and user of VirtualPC, the Windows emulation software for the Mac, it was slow and cumbersome. I only used it when I had a "must use" Windows application.

As a matter of fact the licensed copy of Microsoft Windows XP contained in my last version of VirtualPC from Connectix is still the licensed version I use for Windows XP in Bootcamp/Parallels -- and I am so glad to run it on an Intel instead of emulation!

I don't understand that sentence.There were Powermac G5's.

I know VirtualPC is an emulator and is slow.

 

[theSeb]

Intel processors may be cheaper than PPC but it didnt make the mac cheaper and AMD is even cheaper and runs cooler than Intel

This sentence is so incorrect and full of wrong information that I don't even know where to start. Why do people post things like this? The worst thing is that some one else will read it and believe it.

 

[GermanyChris]

He missed things like the $1800 cube.

 

[gotanimac]

No bootcamp, they would run hotter and slower along with less software.

I never really understood the point of bootcamp. Apple uses standard PC hardware, restricts the BIOS so it's OS won't run on other standard PCs and then brags about how their computers can run both Windows and OS X, due to their own self-imposed restrictions.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

The G5's were 64bit.

not all of them were were they? they should of kept G5 support up to Lion since G5s are 64bit they could of made G4s usable up to SL

 

[theSeb]

not all of them were were they? they should of kept G5 support up to Lion since G5s are 64bit they could of made G4s usable up to SL

have <> of

 

[Liquinn]

I never really understood the point of bootcamp. Apple uses standard PC hardware, restricts the BIOS so it's OS won't run on other standard PCs and then brags about how their computers can run both Windows and OS X, due to their own self-imposed restrictions.

So that's how OSX knows whether it's installed on Apple hardware? I see.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

This sentence is so incorrect and full of wrong information that I don't even know where to start. Why do people post things like this? The worst thing is that some one else will read it and believe it.

its not incorrect Intel processors have not made mac cheaper they STILL cost more then they need or and are worth. i have used Intel since 2000 and AMD since 2005 my first AMD main unit was a Athlon XP socket A it always ran cool vs my P4 that runs at 150F pretty much all the time. my AMD Athlon system runs at 104F at all times. my AMD Phenum Quad Core laptop runs cooler than my Intel Celeron Windows XP laptop infact my Celeron laptop has overheated (even with proper ventilation) atleast 2 dozen times.

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He missed things like the $1800 cube.

as i said All macs cost more then they are worth.

 

[ihuman:D]

have <> of

What?

 

[Goftrey]

Yet another PowerPC thread that has gone wildly off topic.

 

[Starfighter]

What?

All the "of" should be replaced with "have".


Goftrey: Yeah... It's no surprise. Maybe they get derailed because... I don't even know anymore. I don't know why obvious guesses needs to be posted - is it to raise the post count? And what's up with the spelling? I honestly have to focus really hard to understand some posts.

 

[Nameci]

All the "of" should be replaced with "have".


Goftrey: Yeah... It's no surprise. Maybe they get derailed because... I don't even know anymore. I don't know why obvious guesses needs to be posted - is it to raise the post count? And what's up with the spelling? I honestly have to focus really hard to understand some posts.

I'd rather read an arrogant but most of the time factual and correct information posted than wild guesses. I have not learned so much on all these posts. Just exchange of information from bloated egos.

 

[Goftrey]

Yeah... It's no surprise. Maybe they get derailed because... I don't even know anymore. I don't know why obvious guesses needs to be posted - is it to raise the post count? And what's up with the spelling? I honestly have to focus really hard to understand some posts.

It's becoming less of a forum and more of a loosely PowerPC orientated instant messaging service.

I think it's only a matter of time before the mods call it a day here unless threads begin to take shape again pretty soon.

 

[ihuman:D]

All the "of" should be replaced with "have".


Goftrey: Yeah... It's no surprise. Maybe they get derailed because... I don't even know anymore. I don't know why obvious guesses needs to be posted - is it to raise the post count? And what's up with the spelling? I honestly have to focus really hard to understand some posts.

I know some peoples spellings are ridiculous.

 

[Starfighter]

I'd rather read an arrogant but most of the time factual and correct information posted than wild guesses. I have not learned so much on all these posts. Just exchange of information from bloated egos.

Absolutely. I'm with you all the way on that. As I said when I first got here, I don't mind the attitude or lack of manners as long as I learn what I want to learn.

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It's becoming less of a forum and more of a loosely PowerPC orientated instant messaging service.

I think it's only a matter of time before the mods call it a day here unless threads begin to take shape again pretty soon.

I think we should make use of the sticky and link to it when it can be used as an answer. Of course we can't just have the whole PPC section become one sticky and no talk at all - but it would be fun if there were more interesting conversations than "what apps can I run" (no offence to the OP's in those threads).