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Guys, you're all missing the point.

Of course they'll make it 2GB

Then they'll bloat iOS 9 so bad that it just barely works with 2GB and anything with 1GB will slow to a prehistoric crawl forcing us all to upgrade again.

I have a 6 Plus and love it. But it's comical how slow my old 4S is on iOS 8. The 4S was blazing fast on iOS 6.

There is absolutely zero chance Apple doesn't force upgrades by making the previous generation stupidly slow on the current OS.

What advancement in two years could possibly make typing on a keyboard go from instant (iOS 6) to a half second delay for each key? (IOS 8)

Typing on a keyboard and making a letter appear was blazing fast on my VIC 20 in 1982. You can't tell me my iPhone 4S isn't up to the job.

They slow it down on purpose. And it will happen again with the 6 when 6S and iOS 9 comes out. Doubling the ram will be the excuse.
 
If you're dissatisfied with it, then why do you still have it? I don't get it.

...because it cost me £700.
...because I'm tied into the ecosystem.
...because I have £200's worth of paid-for apps.
...because the Note 4 I tried had a loose volume rocker, as did the second one I tried.
...because the Nexus 6 is too big.
...because I was hoping that Apple would 'fix' things with an update.
 
I won't be buying it. I'm selling my 6 Plus, and have picked up a new 128gb iPad Air 2 along with a new LG G2. Installed CM 11 on the G2 and couldn't be happier. Both together were cheaper than the 6 Plus. I sold my Air last year because of the constant reloads. With the added ram in the Air 2, it's wonderful to use.
 
If the 6s only has 1GB of RAM, thousands of people will complain, tens of millions of people will buy it anyway, and most of them won't know or care how much RAM is in it.

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...because I'm tied into the ecosystem.

This is why I believe in buying products, not ecosystems. I have a Windows PC, an iPhone, and an Android tablet. Why? Because they were each the best device in their category to meet my personal needs and preferences. My Google apps like Google Drive and Google Maps run fine on my iPhone. iTunes runs fine on my PC. Most other apps that I use regularly are available on all platforms.
 
What if they only increase the ram to 2GB?

I will still get up in the morning, eat my breakfast, and go go work.

How about you?
 
i wouldn't say it would definitely keep me from upgrading. I learned my lesson with the 6 plus though. I'll test it for two weeks (or less) BEFORE a getting rid of my previous phone. If my experience isn't flawless I am not putting up with it again; no reason to.

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If you're dissatisfied with it, then why do you still have it? I don't get it.

I don't know about him, but I'm only with Apple because I'm locked into the ecosystem. But if the quality keeps declining, I'm going to something else next round

Speaking for myself here:
1. I was dumb and got rid of my precious phone weeks before he 6 plus launched in order to get the most vslue back. Had been doing this a while. First time I even regretted it for a second.

2. My entire family is using Apple product, so it doesn't make sense for me to be the odd man out for my personal device. Sure I could sell my plus and lose money.

At the end of the day, being dissatisfied with something, for me, doesn't mean I don't like other aspects of it. Overall it's a decent phone. It just also had the most problems of any launch device I have ever owned (from Apple).

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...because it cost me £700.
...because I'm tied into the ecosystem.
...because I have £200's worth of paid-for apps.
...because the Note 4 I tried had a loose volume rocker, as did the second one I tried.
...because the Nexus 6 is too big.
...because I was hoping that Apple would 'fix' things with an update.

It's inportant to also note that being dissatisfied with something doesn't mean you would be more satisfied with something else. I think most people miss this. For my personal device, the 6 plus, despite its well documented (by me) issues, is still the best device for me. Doesn't mean I am completely satisfied with it.
 
Man I don't know what to believe. I'm still on my 4s as I generally keep devices for as long as possible and had kept ios6 on it because of the speed difference from ios8. I'm waiting for my 6 plus 128gb to ship in (originally was waiting for 6s as I heard about all the ram issues with the 6, but 4s is having trouble keeping up with me) and now am having second thoughts.

Are all these ram issues really blown out of proportion and more exclusive to forums? I know I get a ton of refreshing on my 4s with safari/apps but it is a 3-4 year old device on an old iOS so that's expected when it's pushed hard. But I can't imagine a brand new ~$900 iPhone behaving similarly, especially when I'm planning on keeping it for at least 2 years.
 
Man I don't know what to believe. I'm still on my 4s as I generally keep devices for as long as possible and had kept ios6 on it because of the speed difference from ios8. I'm waiting for my 6 plus 128gb to ship in (originally was waiting for 6s as I heard about all the ram issues with the 6, but 4s is having trouble keeping up with me) and now am having second thoughts.

Are all these ram issues really blown out of proportion and more exclusive to forums? I know I get a ton of refreshing on my 4s with safari/apps but it is a 3-4 year old device on an old iOS so that's expected when it's pushed hard. But I can't imagine a brand new ~$900 iPhone behaving similarly, especially when I'm planning on keeping it for at least 2 years.

In the first one to admit my demands are extremely high. I was expecting perfection, and I didn't get it. Am I inteasonable? I don't know. I'm not leaving bags of burning dog poop on Apple's doorstep. But I am pretty vocal about it. I did confirm on two occasions that my phone is acting normally (with s genius).

Truth be told, if you're happy with a 4s you would probably be happy with the 6 plus in terms of performance. It's not terrible, by any means. I'm just pretty sensitive to frame rate drops and it happens at key times, that I can easily duplicate, in the UI.

Safari just needs an overhaul though. I've come to the conclusion my gripes with tabs are not an issue with the hardware; it's all software.
 
Safari just needs an overhaul though. I've come to the conclusion my gripes with tabs are not an issue with the hardware; it's all software.

That's the thing that I've been trying to research on forums and what not about the 6 plus-if it's mainly badly optimized os or the hardware itself. I'm curious if you have used google chrome on your plus and if it behaves differently?
 
That's the thing that I've been trying to research on forums and what not about the 6 plus-if it's mainly badly optimized os or the hardware itself. I'm curious if you have used google chrome on your plus and if it behaves differently?

I never liked Chrome, so no. I do use Dolphin, and it's night and day better.

One issue I have still (and I think this is an iOS thing) is that if I ever load Safari (and sometimes I do, not thinking, when another app asks to load a web page) it will wipe all of my tabs in Dolphin. By wipe, I mean they are no longer there at all; not only do they not reload, they simply disappear.

That said, there are framerate drops all over the OS, some worse than others. Right now, in terms of performance, the 5S does the best on 8.1.3 in my experience.
 
As long as it runs fine (which my 6 does) I couldn't care less how much RAM it has.

People get caught up and obsessed with specs.
 
That said, there are framerate drops all over the OS, some worse than others. Right now, in terms of performance, the 5S does the best on 8.1.3 in my experience.

Thanks for the info, ill definitely check out dolphin when my phone gets in. Are those Framerate drops mainly tied to having all the animations in ios8 on (I know you can turn/reduce some of them in settings).
 
Thanks for the info, ill definitely check out dolphin when my phone gets in. Are those Framerate drops mainly tied to having all the animations in ios8 on (I know you can turn/reduce some of them in settings).

I have turned mine off and I still see framerate dips. Happens often when app stwitching, app loading, popping into landscape, etc.

I have indeed turned animations off, though I refused to for a good bit. It definitely makes things less jarring for me.
 
Man I don't know what to believe. I'm still on my 4s as I generally keep devices for as long as possible and had kept ios6 on it because of the speed difference from ios8. I'm waiting for my 6 plus 128gb to ship in (originally was waiting for 6s as I heard about all the ram issues with the 6, but 4s is having trouble keeping up with me) and now am having second thoughts.



Are all these ram issues really blown out of proportion and more exclusive to forums? I know I get a ton of refreshing on my 4s with safari/apps but it is a 3-4 year old device on an old iOS so that's expected when it's pushed hard. But I can't imagine a brand new ~$900 iPhone behaving similarly, especially when I'm planning on keeping it for at least 2 years.


Yes totally blown out of proportion but the same people over and over and over and over again.

However there is something else you have to understand. Apps and web pages will refresh, even if you have a 4GB phone that could happen just as frequently. RAM can help, however if the apps or websites that you use are written in such a way that they refresh upon loosing focus or have some kind of session management built in or whatever they've done. There can be many reasons for it to happen.

I would really not worry about it.
 
Then I'll just hold onto my 6+ but it is all confirmed that the phone will have 2GB so I'm not worried about it.

I can say this though, my iPad 4 has been working quite well with "just" 1GB and from what I've seen from my Plus it too is doing well enough as is. I do, however, plan to upgrade to the Air 2 but it is more out of want than need.
 
I most likely will not upgrade to the 6s either way. Sure any upgrade in specs will be nice as the iPhone should only get better with upgraded engineering. I certainly would not call myself a power user. Just an average user.

If the 6s does have 2GB of ram, so will the 7. My 6/6 Plus currently performs at a level that I find acceptable so it should last another 1.5 years. I love tech and gadgets as much as next guy but there comes a point where I don't want to just hand Apple my money for every spec bump. It's never ending. I've already owned every generation of iPhone and I feel most improvements will be modest to me at this point. The phones are already peaking as far as tech goes IMO. What I would like most would be the 6 Plus screen in a smaller footprint.
 
I will most likely upgrade only because I will be due for a new phone (currently having iPhone 5S) and since the work reimburses me for my phone bill (up to certain amount) it would make no sense for me to not get a new phone when I am ready for it.
This will also mean that my wife would get my 5S and my daughter would get my wife's 5. - one upgrade will make 3 people happy so it will definitely happen regardless of what the memory size is in the next iPhone.
 
It won't, but if it did I'm sure the device would still run superbly just like my current 6 and 6+ do.

I am 100% certain we will see 2 GB of RAM in the iPhone 6S and 6S+.
 
I think we're going to see a slowdown of hardware innovations with the iPhone. The 6/6+ is big enough, thin enough, and fast enough for most users. It has all the current connectivity (albeit a locked NFC), so there's not much Apple can improve in terms of hardware, with the exception of the camera. (This is going to be a big one, because everyone takes pictures with their iPhone. People will be able to notice innovation here.)

Apple will need to use software to differentiate models and sell phones. For example, I can definitely see Apple adding a multitasking feature only for 2GB tablets/phones. They could also market new Siri features that only work on 2GB phones.

Basically, the added RAM will just be an out to explain why the 6S gets new software features that the 6 (and below) can't have. The upgrade cycle starts all over...
 
Um, I bought one. I'm still dissatisfied with it.
You seem to think it's the case that you either love your iPhone 100% and cannot fault it, or you loathe everything about it and return it for a refund.

Everyone with half a brain wouldn't keep a device that doesn't satisfy his needs. Especially one very easy to sell like an iPhone.
So yes, definitely the vast majority of iPhone's owners are satisfied.
 
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