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What iOS 7 need to change?

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digitalove

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Jun 12, 2012
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I really appreciate the new features and the total refresh we got in iOS 7.

I think iOS is still weak in some way, let me explain this:

- Why when I choose a wallpaper I'm able only to select it only from my Photo roll/Streaming photo? What if my pics are stored in Dropbox on another app?
You should be able to select a wallpaper not only from their app.

- Why when you wanna attach a photo or a file to iMessage you can only browse trough native Apple's app? Same as before, maybe I need to send a photo saved in a NON-Apple app...

And it goes that way for many other app..


Apple is usually very smart with strategies, they have brilliant ideas and the software they make is very intuitive, but Apple really should consider that we aren't supposed to use always their default app.

I really expected iOS 7 to make this change, but still nothing. A bit disappointing.

What do you think about this "forcing to use default apps"?
Can we expect a change on that before the final release of iOS 7 or no way?
 
digitalove said:
I really appreciate the new features and the total refresh we got in iOS 7.

I think iOS is still weak in some way, let me explain this:

- Why when I choose a wallpaper I'm able only to select it only from my Photo roll/Streaming photo? What if my pics are stored in Dropbox on another app?
You should be able to select a wallpaper not only from their app.

- Why when you wanna attach a photo or a file to iMessage you can only browse trough native Apple's app? Same as before, maybe I need to send a photo saved in a NON-Apple app...

And it goes that way for many other app..


Apple is usually very smart with strategies, they have brilliant ideas and the software they make is very intuitive, but Apple really should consider that we aren't supposed to use always their default app.

I really expected iOS 7 to make this change, but still nothing. A bit disappointing.

What do you think about this "forcing to use default apps"?
Can we expect a change on that before the final release of iOS 7 or no way?
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Nothing and No.
 
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I don't think OP's suggestion is stupid. Having to save from Dropbox to camera roll before being able to use a picture as a wallpaper is an extra step, and there is nothing stupid about wanting to eliminate an extra step.

That said, if you want to send a file in a third-party app through iMessage, you.can usually copy and paste it.
 
w0lf said:
Can't most/all apps add images to the camera roll?
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Ye, you can. But can Apple delete an extra step?
So I can maybe avoid to save 1000+ pics to the camera roll and can keep more space (GB) on my device. I have Dropbox just for my pics and they are there to stay there, don't wanna transfer stuff in different places and don't wanna lose GB.

I'm forced to use an app I don't want to.
 
I think that in general there should be a better way for app interaction. For example, currently it's possible to open document in another app, but it should be also possible to open document from another app. For example, sometimes I want to read a PDF book in iBooks because iBooks renders complex PDFs much faster than Adobe's native app, but other times I like to read them in Adobe Reader because it has scrolling and landscape mode. Currently it's possible only by copying same PDF both to iBooks and Adobe Reader which wastes storage and requires extra few steps to load the file into iPad.

Also, it would be nice if Apple offered different dictionaries for iBooks. It would make much more sense for me to get word translation into my native language instead of getting its definition in english.
 
digitalove said:
Ye, you can. But can Apple delete an extra step?
So I can maybe avoid to save 1000+ pics to the camera roll and can keep more space (GB) on my device. I have Dropbox just for my pics and they are there to stay there, don't wanna transfer stuff in different places and don't wanna lose GB.

I'm forced to use an app I don't want to.
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While maybe not the perfect solution one can open Dropbox copy the image and paste it into an email. Toggling between apps isn't too inconvenient.
 
digitalove said:
I really appreciate the new features and the total refresh we got in iOS 7.

I think iOS is still weak in some way, let me explain this:

- Why when I choose a wallpaper I'm able only to select it only from my Photo roll/Streaming photo? What if my pics are stored in Dropbox on another app?
You should be able to select a wallpaper not only from their app.

- Why when you wanna attach a photo or a file to iMessage you can only browse trough native Apple's app? Same as before, maybe I need to send a photo saved in a NON-Apple app...

And it goes that way for many other app..


Apple is usually very smart with strategies, they have brilliant ideas and the software they make is very intuitive, but Apple really should consider that we aren't supposed to use always their default app.

I really expected iOS 7 to make this change, but still nothing. A bit disappointing.

What do you think about this "forcing to use default apps"?
Can we expect a change on that before the final release of iOS 7 or no way?
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Im fine with being forced to use default apps. The iOS shouldn't need to know dropbox exists. That extra step to add a photo from dropbox to camera roll is fine by me and keeps things consistent.

Not sure why you would expect iOS7 to make this change. Apple's always been pretty strict on their openness to 3rd parties. Took them seemingly forever to finally do the app store and even still they have locked it down pretty good.
 
In the case of pictures, no. The thread-starter is wrong. The idea is to finally get rid of any file system and Apple does good to follow this route.

More app interaction as long as it is controlled would be welcomed. What you do not want to end up with is that you see 30 options for transferring a picture among 30 apps that can handle jpegs.

The goal is not to have a fully customisable phone. This is just wrong. You want to avoid having to spend time customising your phone in the way you want it to be. Only because it is a computer, people believe it needs to be all complicated and customisable.

When I buy a toaster or a washing machine, I just want these things to work. I will not waste time tweaking them. And that is how more complex technology should work as well. It is a long process until we get there, but you kind of have to lay the foundation today. Only reason why people want their "computer" to be customisable, is because they never learnt to see it as a non-customisable item. The way I see it is, that Apple has been educating their customer's since forever until the day comes and we can all agree.
 
Some sort of quick reply

Multiconmover a jailbreak tweak which allows you to moves multiple apps at once to another page.

And a native safari downloaded straight in the stock safari app!

Appcent a jailbreak tweak that allows you to see what percent has been downloaded of a app instead of it saying loading.
 
I agree that having a 'user document folder' would be nice. This is my only real complaint about iOS.

However, I understand the need for a wallpaper to be stored somewhere locally on the device so even if your pic is in Dropbox you would have to download it somewhere and the photo app is the logical place.
 
digitalove said:
I really appreciate the new features and the total refresh we got in iOS 7.

I think iOS is still weak in some way, let me explain this:

- Why when I choose a wallpaper I'm able only to select it only from my Photo roll/Streaming photo? What if my pics are stored in Dropbox on another app?
You should be able to select a wallpaper not only from their app.

- Why when you wanna attach a photo or a file to iMessage you can only browse trough native Apple's app? Same as before, maybe I need to send a photo saved in a NON-Apple app...

And it goes that way for many other app..


Apple is usually very smart with strategies, they have brilliant ideas and the software they make is very intuitive, but Apple really should consider that we aren't supposed to use always their default app.

I really expected iOS 7 to make this change, but still nothing. A bit disappointing.

What do you think about this "forcing to use default apps"?
Can we expect a change on that before the final release of iOS 7 or no way?
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Apple believes in the user experience. The more control they have over it the better the experience.

The average user of Apple products is not very tech savvy. If something goes wrong with dropbox (as per your example) the first thing the user would say is "stupid iPhone why won't you work!" even if dropbox is to blame.

Rather than try to to explain to a user how Apple isn't to blame they'd rather just not allow that integration. Personally, I don't blame them.
 
The ability to dismiss notifications on the lockscreen without having to swipe->unlock the phone everytime a notification comes in.

The ability to quickly reply to text messages without having to unlock the phone.

The ability to view full calendar/appts a few days out, instead of only the next 6 hours as iOS7 now does.

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I think these are things iOS7 needs to change first. Considering I change my wallpaper once every few months, I don't see Apple spending time to enhance the Wallpaper setting feature. This is compared to dismissing notifications about 40-50 times a day, and answering 30-40 text messages a day, but having to unlock the darn phone everytime.

Seriously don't see how Apple cannot understand this. Maybe the quickreply I can see thier security hangup, but no little X to dismiss notifications on the lockscreen? That's basic UI design 101.
 
For the love of God.... put back the Post to Facebook and Post to Twitter buttons in the Notification Center.

Also, I think a night mode (change the white to black) option would be sick. Look at the contacts in Facetime to see what I mean.
 
Parise said:
For the love of God.... put back the Post to Facebook and Post to Twitter buttons in the Notification Center.

Also, I think a night mode (change the white to black) option would be sick. Look at the contacts in Facetime to see what I mean.
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Parise,

You can sort of achieve something similar if you turn on the Invert Colors under Accessibility section of settings, but it inverts all colors all over the UI. Even inverts colors of pictures, which is weird.
 
kmichalec said:
Parise,

You can sort of achieve something similar if you turn on the Invert Colors under Accessibility section of settings, but it inverts all colors all over the UI. Even inverts colors of pictures, which is weird.
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Yeah I did that... was excited for a few until I went to the springboard and saw everything a weird shade of neon orange and yellow lol

Three seconds of looking at that gave me a headache...
 
iDominic said:
There is a million things they could change. Starting with the icons and the amount of white there is.
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The excessive whiteness is a bit of a bummer using a black iPhone. It just doesn't sit right with me at all.

Who is going to buy a black iphone again? Not many im guessing, unless that is the long term aim. To phase out the black handset.
 
Damolee said:
The excessive whiteness is a bit of a bummer using a black iPhone. It just doesn't sit right with me at all.

Who is going to buy a black iphone again? Not many im guessing, unless that is the long term aim. To phase out the black handset.
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I would imagine. I could never see them trying to phase out black though. The. again...
 
That "excessive white" you are referring to is the direction modern graphic elements are leaning towards. Go check out the sites below and you will see the similiarity.

Outlook.com
Yahoo.com
cracked.com

More and more websites are going with Flat look, lots of whites, no borders.
 
rikscha said:
In the case of pictures, no. The thread-starter is wrong. The idea is to finally get rid of any file system and Apple does good to follow this route.
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No, the thread starter is correct, and you are an idiot. Apple did not get rid of a file system. It just made each app only be able to have read/write permissions over the files that are inside it. However the OP is correct that it's very frustrating and annoying to many users that an image from one app can't be accessed by another app for simple purposes like setting a wallpaper or emailing a sound file, etc. Apple has a lot of room for improvement in this area.

Moreover people like you make me sick. You ignore any valid critiques of any Apple products and doggedly defend Apple's products' worst drawbacks. You think that because Apple does it a certain way, therefore it's the right way. You're closed minded.

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Armen said:
That "excessive white" you are referring to is the direction modern graphic elements are leaning towards. Go check out the sites below and you will see the similiarity.

Outlook.com
Yahoo.com
cracked.com

More and more websites are going with Flat look, lots of whites, no borders.
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It's ugly, oppressive on the eyes, and just bad design. I don't care if it's a popular theme these days; so were bell-bottoms in the 1970s. It's horrifically ugly. Not only that but medically, all that white is bad for you: it inhibits melatonin release in the brain, causing stress and sleep deprivation.

I can't believe all of you idiots defending iOS 7's design flaws. It's really pathetic.
 
darkgoob said:
medically, all that white is bad for you: it inhibits melatonin release in the brain, causing stress and sleep deprivation.
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It slows down production of Melatonin at night. Use a yellow, orange or red background on your computer screen to compensate for it. Go for a warm coloured lamp globe, not a cool or white one. Simple.

I think the design shift to the white has more to do with the ability of the human eye to read fonts easily and quickly on a white background. My wife has less headaches reading black text on a white background than white text on black backgrounds. Her headaches are related to her glasses and straining her eyes reading on dark coloured backgrounds.
 
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