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What is Apple waiting for?

Blogger said:
Oh come on, it's not that bad. Nobody's really being malicious here, just disagreeing. It's not a flame-fest by any degree, I don't see a lot of bad feeling, just expression of opinions. Some people may have soft skins, but nobody's is being really offensive here.
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Exactly.
 
Maybe why on Apple is waiting foe MWSF '08 is: To announce the MP shipping on 1/15/08.. Gotta have enough inventory to achieve that .. :rolleyes:


Or to piss-off the 'tru' fanbois even more of not coming out of a MP mini :p :rolleyes:



maybe 5% of this site is looking @ a MP..


Gotta love the threads after Product announcements 'cause you'll see thousands +1 on the same item and regarding on how apple should've done a product..


I think Apple designers have it under control .. :rolleyes: :p Yes some of my comments are sarcasm but others are true
 
flyinmac said:
That's the wonderful thing about free speech and the freedom of expression. It goes both ways.

It is pointless to open a discussion moaning about what isn't available. Especially if you only want to hear one side of the story.

If all you want expressed is one side, then why bother. A whole bunch of people with the same opinion moaning and groaning and whining among themselves really doesn't serve any purpose.

If you don't want a discussion that can go both directions, then don't post in an open forum.

Go to onlyoneopinionmatters.com instead.

or

onepersontalking.com

Then, you can talk with a whole bunch of people who sound just like you, and lose track of whether you are talking to yourself or someone else.

Sorry, this is an open forum. Accept that not everyone will agree with you.
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flyinmac your post is a red herring the issue is obviously not about hearing one side of a given issue, rather my concern was how you treat the person you object with. In this case using ad hominems ie. @$$holes (_o_) prevents real dialogue from taking place. Further you are equivocating my idea of the forum with the original speakers (digital skunk). Meaning, you are replacing what I suggested for the forum - a place without condensation and berating of others - with his - a place dissolved of undesirables (whining). His being the problem you and I are referring to in dictating what can't be discussed. I should point out here that describing others grievances as whining, moaning, etc is a straw man itself and contradicts your value of an open forum. Finally the phony website sarcasm is the kind of condescending tone I mentioned the forum would do better without - it's irrelevant to the discourse. Personality shouldn't float as a cover for being rude to others.
 
One of the biggest problems with internet forums is that we all bring our own psychological baggage with us. It's very easy, just reading text, to read emotions into posts that do not exist in the poster's mind. It's important to recognise this and not take immediate offence at something someone says, primarily because it reminds us of something in our own past experience.

I'm really not trying to be critical here, just pointing out that it's very easy to jump to conclusions that the other poster did not intend you to have. they may just have a more abrupt posting style.

It's always best, especially on this forum, which I have to say is one of the most supportive that I have encountered, to give people the benefit of the doubt, and keep a positive attitude. It's OK to disagree with other people, and everyone has a different way of expressing it. If you take offence, pause and consider the possibility that the poster did not intend to hurt your feelings. Laugh it off and carry on in kind.

Having said that, some people can post things that can be inconsiderate and hurtful to others, it does pay to re-read anything before you post and consider how it might be received. If someone is genuinely and unmistakably offensive or hurtful, let the powers that be know about it, and they will deal with it.
 
I will never understand why threads like this irritate people.
Look at the title..."What is Apple waiting for?"
It is so obvious what this thread is going to be about.
If you have a problem with it, why even look at it?
If you have a problem with it, why respond to it?
 
Topper said:
I will never understand why threads like this irritate people.
Look at the title..."What is Apple waiting for?"
It is so obvious what this thread is going to be about.
If you have a problem with it, why even look at it?
If you have a problem with it, why respond to it?
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+1
 
heatmiser said:
To be honest, I've never come across a larger concentration of condescending users on a single site before. There are plenty of good people here, but the atmosphere seems so much more...hostile than any I've ever been to. People start support threads and are blamed for their misfortune; people report defective machines, and are accused of having sabotaged them with incompetence; people express frustration at software or hardware quality control issues, and are derided and told to 'go back to windoze!1!!!!1!'. It's rather appalling. I like my Macbook, but I can't say the same for the vibes on this site. It's almost as if people feel obligated to shamelessly defend Apple/attack "non-believers" after having spent so much on their computers.
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Actually, I rather like it here. Sure there's some kids with short fuses who clearly don't have any real work to do, but generally speaking I found it to be pretty good. Now, on the other hand, when I registered as a newbie on macnn.com... boy, did I get some real hostility there! THAT'S the worst forum I'VE ever been to!
 
New Mac Pros and Cinema Displays in the store! No, probably not, but it is down. Sorry, everyone!

Oh, and you can't be mad at me. My 11 year long wait is about to be over, so I'm more dedicated than ALL of you. :rolleyes:
 
It's so sad how excited I get over things like the store going down just now, even when I know it won't be a Mac Pro update. Oh well, it makes the day go by faster - and that much loser to Jan 15.
 
Topper said:
I will never understand why threads like this irritate people.
Look at the title..."What is Apple waiting for?"
It is so obvious what this thread is going to be about.
If you have a problem with it, why even look at it?
If you have a problem with it, why respond to it?
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Threads like these sometimes work as therapy for people who may be feeling similar anxiety over one issue or another. It never ceases to amaze me why people who bash threads even bother reading them. For them to spend any time in them, let alone posting in them, goes against their argument to begin with. Also, we should keep in mind that in almost every forum about every subject matter on the web, there are an overwhelming percentage of negative or trouble posts, whereas the great majority of happy campers never posts at all. I theorize that the same people that come in and bash in these sort of threads are the same people responsible for all the rubbernecking delays in traffic jams. :rolleyes:
 
I can wait for the new MP... i just don't want them to give a similar announcement like the new iPhone and say that the release date wont be until June.... the audience will moan (like they did with the iPhone) and Steve will recover with some sort of good news.

That, or they ship on 1/15... lets hope so on that one.
 
I think following a 12 step program would help me, and other Mac Pro Update-aholics, get through our addiction.

Step 1. We admitted we were powerless over the Mac Pro —that our lives had become unmanageable.

Step 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves (Steve Jobs) could restore us to sanity

...and so forth.
 
-Noodles said:
Reading some of these posts is really quite depressing.

It's unfortunate that a thread on the timeliness of apple gets met with immediate hostility and distain for even attempting to vocalize any grievances. Given the author's newbie status perhaps it's more than unreasonable to expect he'd know what is being said over and over again. It's encouraging to see that some overlooked this and contributed to the discussion instead of detracting from it, but more than not treat both the thread and the speaker with a certain loathing. It's particularly distressing to witness the crassness of people dictating what they feel shouldn't be discussed. It begs the question why are they on an open forum to begin with or why would they willingly subject themselves to reading these types of threads they hate and then waste the energy deriding them. Perhaps a certain sadomasochism is responsible. Whatever the case, its a real downer coming across these types of responders that wish to be taken as having reasonable views despite their unreasonable aggression towards others. Maybe these individuals really should split the forum and be kind enough to stay with their holy grail of tech-talk; then a real discussion could go on about apple without the condescension or berating of others.
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You missed the point entirely. I don't mean to be negative, but did you read the other posts or think about what my post said? I don't think you did, hence the reason for your post that doesn't even touch what I was talking about.

My comment was about users searching the threads, and finding discussions that have already talked about their topics. Obviously you are the type of person that wants everyone to just whine about thing and hear other people whine about the same things and get no where fast, like this thread, hence the second reason to keep them bunched together, or for the OP to search the forums.

Think about it.

heatmiser said:
To be honest, I've never come across a larger concentration of condescending users on a single site before. There are plenty of good people here, but the atmosphere seems so much more...hostile than any I've ever been to. People start support threads and are blamed for their misfortune; people report defective machines, and are accused of having sabotaged them with incompetence; people express frustration at software or hardware quality control issues, and are derided and told to 'go back to windoze!1!!!!1!'. It's rather appalling. I like my Macbook, but I can't say the same for the vibes on this site. It's almost as if people feel obligated to shamelessly defend Apple/attack "non-believers" after having spent so much on their computers.
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You forgot about how people that love their Apple machines and want to talk about them get branded "Fanboys/girls" by other users. The condescendence goes both ways. And to tell you the truth, you have more people that hate Apple that talk down to users that appreciate the company.

It seems that users come here to bash Apple supporters instead of adding anything useful to the forums. If the OP wanted to talk about the lateness of the Mac Pro, he could have SEARCHED THE FORUMS for the plethora of other threads about the same topic, and could have seen how they wound down into useless ***** fights like this one.
 
This place is turning into such a bitchfest. I thought this was meant to be a community, where's the love?
 
Digital Skunk said:
"When people say 'white guy' why isn't that racism?"
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I didn't bother to quote the whole thing, but Good post ;-)

I like your signature :D

And, you are correct. Every time I say something nice about Apple, I get blasted for being a fanboy. Every time I say something about where they messed-up, I get blasted for being negative.

I just call it like I see it. And, I do the same thing with regards to the posts here. If people can't handle someone disagreeing with then, then don't post in a public forum.
 
flyinmac said:
They probably find it limiting that the current Mac Pro can only flash a billion porn images at one time. They need a 16-core machine to drive 10 displays with 10 trillion porn images flashing past their eyes every half-second.
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Finally someone who understands the true purpose of it all... :D
 
flyinmac said:
I didn't bother to quote the whole thing, but Good post ;-)

I like your signature :D

And, you are correct. Every time I say something nice about Apple, I get blasted for being a fanboy. Every time I say something about where they messed-up, I get blasted for being negative.

I just call it like I see it. And, I do the same thing with regards to the posts here. If people can't handle someone disagreeing with then, then don't post in a public forum.
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Thanks for the compliment.

The problem is that there is no middle ground with some people. You have to either be for Apple or against Apple.

Personally, like many other users, the sane ones that is, Apple is just as bad as every other company. Technology these days is pick your poison.
 
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