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So if you don't want wifi transfer, cloud storage, direct download from a website and insist on a USB cable - connect it to a computer and transfer that way.

You totally can use a USB cable and transfer the files that way. I don't even think iTunes is needed for photos (what you're talking about). Anytime I connect my iPad or iPhone a folder pops up with photos...

Android had "Android transfer" I had to use, and Samsung had "Keyes" or whatever it was. iTunes is much more fluid than any of those were and used less resources.


There is no way to put photos onto an iPad with a computer without iTunes. I don't know why I'd want to use the cloud to give people photos.. too much of a hassle. They've got to sign into apps and it goes on and on. Plus NONE allow for you to import to the Photos App on the iPad (Except Photoostream) And Its not overly secure to keep photos in the cloud. I don't trust it.

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If all apps can see and use the same file from within their own app, as with iCloud Drive, why would you need a separate file manager app?

All Apple need to do is allow safari and mail to access iCloud Drive, then it's sorted.

And a way to add large documents by USB + support for saving from the web to iCloud drive for videos, sound, photos and documents and support for uploading documents :)
 
There is no way to put photos onto an iPad with a computer without iTunes. I don't know why I'd want to use the cloud to give people photos.. too much of a hassle. They've got to sign into apps and it goes on and on. Plus NONE allow for you to import to the Photos App on the iPad (Except Photoostream) And Its not overly secure to keep photos in the cloud. I don't trust it.



Email them.

Problem solved.
 
Email them.

Problem solved.

Yep 2 GB of photos. Great idea!

Followed by tedious downloading photo's from the server then saving them to camera roll... NO THANKS!

What is the opposition people have to plugging things in these days. I appreciate there are many ways that the iCloud/Wireless ways of doing things are great, such as iCloud documents, Mail, Notes, Contacts, Calendars, sharing large numbers of photos is certainly not a good way.
 
won't iCloud Drive basically become the new file manager?

At the moment on iOS mail you can click attach and select a photo from the photos app, I suspect in addition to this there will now be an iCloud Drive option as well. In addition to iCloud Drive, native support for OneDrive and DropBox is going to be supported on iOS8 as well.
 
What is benefit of a file manager? Please Explain

There is no way to put photos onto an iPad with a computer without iTunes. I don't know why I'd want to use the cloud to give people photos.. too much of a hassle. They've got to sign into apps and it goes on and on. Plus NONE allow for you to import to the Photos App on the iPad (Except Photoostream) And Its not overly secure to keep photos in the cloud. I don't trust it.

iCloud Photo Library will cover this easily, have it on all your devices and your computer, your computer set to download the full resolution versions, then you can email them to anyone else or airdrop them, message them, create a private photostream (great for large images, as you will already have them in cloud photo library, so no waiting for them to send, the person you want to receive the images can download at their leisure, also these can be web based, so no additional apps needed by the recipient).





support for saving from the web to iCloud drive for videos, sound, photos and documents and support for uploading documents :)


Already covered that by saying expand safari's ability to download and upload images to other documents (ie iCloud Drive).
 
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So each app would have universal access to the document?

That's not a file manager...

A file manager would simply allow you to access the individual apps directory.

What good would it do to only allow each app to browse its own files?

Each app already displays its own files.. don't need a file manager for that.

Clearly any file manager should be able to see files on a global scale.
 
iCloud Photo Library will cover this easily, have it on all your devices and your computer, your computer set to download the full resolution versions, then you can email them to anyone else or airdrop them, message them, create a private photostream (great for large images, as you will already have them in cloud photo library, so no waiting for them to send, the person you want to receive the images can download at their leisure, also these can be web based, so no additional apps needed by the recipient).








Already covered that by saying expand safari's ability to download and upload images to other documents (ie iCloud Drive).


Or I could just Plug it in!! A lot of people don't want their photos in the cloud and its slow as all get out. There is a very very very easy solution here. I scan photos for people to have on their iPads and its so annoying not just being able to copy them directly onto their iPads. They don't want their memories in the cloud where they can potentially be accessed by whoever/get deleted, and I can't sign into their Apple IDs. Its usually a large number of images so anything wireless is pointless and slow. I don't know how many times I can say it, that the easiest way could be mounting the client's iPad and dragging the photos in.
 
Or I could just Plug it in!! A lot of people don't want their photos in the cloud and its slow as all get out. There is a very very very easy solution here. I scan photos for people to have on their iPads and its so annoying not just being able to copy them directly onto their iPads. They don't want their memories in the cloud where they can potentially be accessed by whoever/get deleted, and I can't sign into their Apple IDs. Its usually a large number of images so anything wireless is pointless and slow. I don't know how many times I can say it, that the easiest way could be mounting the client's iPad and dragging the photos in.


The cloud isn't that slow for photos, plus this way means you don't have to waste time plugging in, as it'll be done before you even got to your computer. Also, you clearly didn't read what I said, if you set it so the computer downloads the full resolution versions, you'll have it there in case something should go wrong with iCloud. Additionally, if you create a private photostream, they can see it straight away, you don't need to waste time getting their iPad to your computer and plugging it in. Wireless transfer is not that slow these days. I transfer photos to people this way from events, consisting of hundreds of photos and it's always quicker and easier than getting them to come to me and faff around plugging in and transferring that way. It seems like you've got a stubborn archaic viewpoint.
 
The cloud isn't that slow for photos, plus this way means you don't have to waste time plugging in, as it'll be done before you even got to your computer. Also, you clearly didn't read what I said, if you set it so the computer downloads the full resolution versions, you'll have it there in case something should go wrong with iCloud. Additionally, if you create a private photostream, they can see it straight away, you don't need to waste time getting their iPad to your computer and plugging it in. Wireless transfer is not that slow these days. I transfer photos to people this way from events, consisting of hundreds of photos and it's always quicker and easier than getting them to come to me and faff around plugging in and transferring that way. It seems like you've got a stubborn archaic viewpoint.

I don't have a stubborn acrachiac viewpoint... lol. I've tried the methods you've suggest and they're crap. Seeing as if you're scanning someone's photos or been given someone's photos to put on their iPad they're already with you, plus when I'm putting photos onto their iPads I'm usually teaching them to use their iPads so I have them physically with me. The cloud is freaking slow for transfers. 2000 photos in photo stream is hopelessly slow. I tried to share 14 panoramas from my iPhone onto my iPad over Photostream the other day and it took bloody 3 hours.

Direct transfer wirelessly, I don't mind such as airdrop, so hopefully that works well.

You ignore also that a lot of people don't like the thought of their photos being transferred over the internet to begin with... storing photos on someone else's servers isn't the smartest idea ever if you're at all concerned for privacy etc. I'm not talking about worries of iCloud going wrong and loosing photos.

The other thing is that I don't get why you're opposed to my way of wanting to do things. It would be the easiest way possible for MY needs. Just because you find your ways the best for YOUR purposes does not mean that everyone should do things that way because for example in my situation its a terrible way of doing things.
 
What is benefit of a file manager? Please Explain

I don't have a stubborn acrachiac viewpoint... lol. I've tried the methods you've suggest and they're crap. Seeing as if you're scanning someone's photos or been given someone's photos to put on their iPad they're already with you, plus when I'm putting photos onto their iPads I'm usually teaching them to use their iPads so I have them physically with me. The cloud is freaking slow for transfers. 2000 photos in photo stream is hopelessly slow. I tried to share 14 panoramas from my iPhone onto my iPad over Photostream the other day and it took bloody 3 hours.



Direct transfer wirelessly, I don't mind such as airdrop, so hopefully that works well.



You ignore also that a lot of people don't like the thought of their photos being transferred over the internet to begin with... storing photos on someone else's servers isn't the smartest idea ever if you're at all concerned for privacy etc. I'm not talking about worries of iCloud going wrong and loosing photos.



The other thing is that I don't get why you're opposed to my way of wanting to do things. It would be the easiest way possible for MY needs. Just because you find your ways the best for YOUR purposes does not mean that everyone should do things that way because for example in my situation its a terrible way of doing things.


3 hours to transfer 14 panoramas? I call bullcrap. If that is true, then there's something wrong on your end.
 
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It should not take that long. It doesn't for me or my colleagues. If it's taking that long, should investigate, as something is not right.

Maybe its just slow Australian Internet?

Regardless the point is that if I have the iPad with me, the easiest solution would be plugging in. End of story.
 
Maybe its just slow Australian Internet?

Regardless the point is that if I have the iPad with me, the easiest solution would be plugging in. End of story.

And if you plug it in, Windows or Mac OS handles your ipad like a camera, so you can import the photos on your iPad onto your computer or what am I missing?
 
And if you plug it in, Windows or Mac OS handles your ipad like a camera, so you can import the photos on your iPad onto your computer or what am I missing?

You can't do it the other way around though. My idea is being able to drag photos from my Mac onto the iPad - i.e not using iTunes. Other's are suggesting that I should use photo stream, and I'm just saying that my experiences with photo stream recently have been VERY slow :p
 
You can't do it the other way around though. My idea is being able to drag photos from my Mac onto the iPad - i.e not using iTunes. Other's are suggesting that I should use photo stream, and I'm just saying that my experiences with photo stream recently have been VERY slow :p


I've heard it's possible to do it the other way round with the camera connection kit. Should check that out.
 
You can't do it the other way around though. My idea is being able to drag photos from my Mac onto the iPad - i.e not using iTunes. Other's are suggesting that I should use photo stream, and I'm just saying that my experiences with photo stream recently have been VERY slow :p

Ah well, I see.. Yes this is a problem. I'm sure there are some third party software which are much more lightweight than iTunes and can do the other way around. (I used SharePod some time ago for my iPod)

I know this is not very convenient, but it's how it is..
 
I've heard it's possible to do it the other way round with the camera connection kit. Should check that out.

Its very variable, some USB drives work, some don't. Much easier if I could do it on the computer. Don't really understand the opposition to this.

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Ah well, I see.. Yes this is a problem. I'm sure there are some third party software which are much more lightweight than iTunes and can do the other way around. (I used SharePod some time ago for my iPod)

I know this is not very convenient, but it's how it is..

Apple could make it convenient. It wouldn't kill anybody.
 
One thing I like about having a file manager on Android is that I can download movies, music, etc. and then move it to a flash drive directly from my device using a USB OTG cable.
 
Someone clear something up for me, won't this icloud drive stuff require a internet connection? As in if I'm offline I can't get any of my files? Or will it be local and sync online kind of like My photo stream?
 
Hey guys I don't mean to sound like a newb, but what is benefit of a file manager? Why do people say iPhones need one? What are circumstances where I would need one?

Lets say you want to organize your pictures into folders for organizational purposes. Or keep all your downloaded PDFs in folders like "eBooks" and "Whitepapers" and "Academic Articles" etc. That way they are organized the same way no matter what app you use to browse them. This is much better than how, say, Photos app works... in Photos app you have one long list with all your photos sorted by date and you can't change how they're sorted nor move them anywhere else, except delete them. You can add them to albums but you can never see a list of whatever photos have not been added to albums yet.

Also you can't rename your photos without a file manager, or even SEE their names for that matter. It's a joke!

Have you seriously never used a computer or its file manager?

What do you do if you want to free up space on your device, without a file manager? What do you do if you want to back up your saved games from Infinity Blade 3 to a different folder so you can delete the app temporarily? You can't, not without a file manager.

What if you want to download an MP3 of your band's latest practice to a folder on your device so you can listen to it without redownloading and without polluting your iTunes library with crappy practice tracks? Once again, without a file manager you, sir, are screwed.

Yes, there are annoying, kludgy apps that semi-accomplish these tasks in various non-standard and lame ways. But it's no replacement for an iOS Finder.

I'll admit, not everyone is smart enough or uses their device enough to benefit from a file manager. But it would not harm those people if it was there.

Personally though I think even stupid people would benefit, because files and folders makes a lot more sense than "my naked photos that I deleted last month went where?!"

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I don't have a stubborn acrachiac viewpoint... lol. I've tried the methods you've suggest and they're crap. Seeing as if you're scanning someone's photos or been given someone's photos to put on their iPad they're already with you, plus when I'm putting photos onto their iPads I'm usually teaching them to use their iPads so I have them physically with me. The cloud is freaking slow for transfers. 2000 photos in photo stream is hopelessly slow. I tried to share 14 panoramas from my iPhone onto my iPad over Photostream the other day and it took bloody 3 hours.

Direct transfer wirelessly, I don't mind such as airdrop, so hopefully that works well.

You ignore also that a lot of people don't like the thought of their photos being transferred over the internet to begin with... storing photos on someone else's servers isn't the smartest idea ever if you're at all concerned for privacy etc. I'm not talking about worries of iCloud going wrong and loosing photos.

The other thing is that I don't get why you're opposed to my way of wanting to do things. It would be the easiest way possible for MY needs. Just because you find your ways the best for YOUR purposes does not mean that everyone should do things that way because for example in my situation its a terrible way of doing things.

AMEN. oldmacs you are my new best friend.

Let me add to what the above genius has eloquently pointed out: iCloud PhotoStream *compresses* and *alters the resolution* of your photos. It does not transmit RAW images.

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3 hours to transfer 14 panoramas? I call bullcrap. If that is true, then there's something wrong on your end.

Dude, real panoramas stitched from high resolution DSLR images can be 2GB in size, each. I have panoramas on my Mac that are 40GB in size.
 
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