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As a retail business owner who runs a company in every spare moment, whilst at university, I usually get a good 15/20 phone calls per day about orders.
If on the tablet I could log into my order panel/google checkout/internet merchant quickly and on a full screen (which is difficult on the iPhone while talking to someone) I'm sold.
I'd also like to be able to process orders on the move and other features like this.

Either way, I'll be an early adopter regardless of the price.
 
A more powerful iPhone or thinner MB/MBP in the future is still preferred. Tablet maybe good for niche, definitely not for mainstream with near $1k price strategy. Things to concern, battery power, matte or glossy screen (e.g. better as reader or as graphics display), scratch and impact resistant, etc. Unless Apple comes out with earth shattering UI model and services combo, it's just another portable device like other vendors' offering.
 
And Windows Mobile devices like the HTC HD2. Don't worry, 480x320 is in the past where it should be. Of course, being a Apple diehard you'll find every excuse why this "Means nothing". :rolleyes:

Yet I bet you'll say Apple innovates again with their "gorgeous" new hi-res display when they introduce their new 854x480 iPhone for the 4th generation and tout iPhone OS 4.0's new resolution independance as something "the industry needs to follow!" when it already has been for the last year and a half.

I actually thought 320x480 was in the past back when it was the default resolution for the Newton MessagePad 2000. But ten years later it re-appears on the iPhone and iPod touch. So it just shows that what we might "think" is history, has legs yet.

No, the reason it (Android phones on a certain resolution) means nothing is that iPhone OS is built on 320x480 and won't fit on an 854x480 ratio. Why does everything have to be abut fanboi behaviour? There's simpler reasons involving actual documentation.

The reason why 854x480 is chosen by mobly companies? NTSC 16:9. That's the only reason. If Apple card about the TV resolutions then they'd have made sure that MacBook resolutions stretched out to 1080. Just because HTC and everyone else is doing it, you're expecting Apple to?

Images and apps built on a 0.66 ratio are not going to look good on a 0.56 ratio. It's that simple. Apps will break.

There's 100 000 apps in the app store - only a fraction of which are resolution independent. It's not a magic wand.
 
Yeah, I know. That was my point - all the rumors say this runs iPhone OS+, not Mac OS.

My reckoning is that it will run Tablet OS X which will be familiar to Cocoa developers and feel like a second home for Cocoa Touch developers.

This Tablet will have a multi-core ARM processor in there. It will be able to multi-task. We're talking about iPhone OS ++

(In truth, I think we're seeing the start of the end of the Mac as we know it)
 
My reckoning is that it will run Tablet OS X which will be familiar to Cocoa developers and feel like a second home for Cocoa Touch developers.

This Tablet will have a multi-core ARM processor in there. It will be able to multi-task. We're talking about iPhone OS ++

Recent episodes of TWiT Networks This WEEK in Tech and MacBreak Weekly specifically mentioned the possibility of an "intermediate" version of OS X based on the iPhone OS that supports things like multitasking, more touchscreen functionality and the ability to handle larger display sizes. You have to wonder will Apple use the Cortex-A9 multicore CPU; if the device uses the quad-core version, the "iSlate" could likely do smooth playback of 1080p video if it uses an improved version of the PowerVR GPU.
 
I hope the tablet is waterproof... I also hope the next iPhone is waterproof.

My guess is the ultimate purpose for the tablet is for the apple store crew to have larger portable transaction processors.
 
My reckoning is that it will run Tablet OS X which will be familiar to Cocoa developers and feel like a second home for Cocoa Touch developers.

This Tablet will have a multi-core ARM processor in there. It will be able to multi-task. We're talking about iPhone OS ++

(In truth, I think we're seeing the start of the end of the Mac as we know it)

I highly doubt it will run anything but the iPhone OS if it truly does come out. The app store will be used heavily as it's a huge cash cow for Apple.

I think the tablet will hit some of that ebook market that the kindle made popular as well as the portable gaming market that the iPhone tapped into. I don't know how well it will cater to a business user as I think it's just going to be a large iPhone with a few extras.
 
No, the reason it (Android phones on a certain resolution) means nothing is that iPhone OS is built on 320x480 and won't fit on an 854x480 ratio. Why does everything have to be abut fanboi behaviour? There's simpler reasons involving actual documentation.

The reason why 854x480 is chosen by mobly companies? NTSC 16:9. That's the only reason. If Apple card about the TV resolutions then they'd have made sure that MacBook resolutions stretched out to 1080. Just because HTC and everyone else is doing it, you're expecting Apple to?

The iPhone SDK's views all have the same adjustment mecanisms that Cocoa provides for resolution independance. A lot of it is already there.

And Apple does "card" about 16:9 resolutions. All the new iMac line-up uses that aspect ratio. And since the iPhone and iPod Touch are often touted as video devices and Apple does sell TV series... You get the picture.

If you want to stick to a squarer 16:10 though, that's fine, then it's going to be 800x480. A lot of screens available for the iPhone in that resolution too.

But 480x320 is done with the 3GS. I'm pretty sure about that.
 
The consensus as of today is 10.1" diagonally. In other words, I would get a nice leather sleeve and keep it in my Timbuk2 bag.

OK, so if only a 10.1" version is available, and how we carry it about is in a Timbuk2 bag, then we go right back to why this vs. a (seemingly more powerful) laptop that we can carry around with just about the same full mobility, in that same bag, and through which we should be able to consume that same (new iTunes) content, and so on.

I'm getting jumped here (my favorite was "haterade") because I'm actually genuinely interested in the thing (I haven't yet purchased an iPhone or Touch because I find them too small for my size). I am a huge Apple fan, and I own a lot of Apple hardware. My iPod is nearing retirement as is my Powerbook G4. So here's a device that could probably fully replace that iPod... and maybe (but I imagine less likely) replace that notebook in my equivalent of a Timbuk2 bag, as a smaller, thinner, lighter package. I think that makes me a bona-fide, great prospect for this Tablet.

So I'm asking questions trying to get at an answer for the thread's original question. From one group, I'm getting answers (mostly) to other questions such as all the benefits of print media going digital, and how much easier/better it is (somehow) going to be to consume this content on a (smaller) screen instead of a screen with a hinge and a keyboard attached. While several of those kinds of points make great sense, very few of them depend on the availability of a Tablet product to be realized. The best of that bunch gets down to modest benefits such as maximum portability, always-on convenience, cool, thinner & lighter, etc. (great stuff no doubt, but is it great enough to move the mass market to spend (my guess) $799 or maybe the $1000 rumored from a more connected source.

On the flipside, there is this other group who sees no purpose for this thing at all... often because whatever they have for their own needs should be perfect for everyone else too. For example, this thing shouldn't have 3G functionality as an alternative to the iPhone because the iPhone should be the only phone... or they have an iPhone and don't want to pay for iPhone hardware in another device (so no one else should be interested in that functionality either). But I don't have an iPhone and if this thing could cover that base for my needs then it would be much more appealing to me ( a very tangible benefit to help support whatever the price might be). And interestingly enough, some of these same people think a price for this Tablet just a bit above an unsubsidized iPhone is nuts, so they want the rich wonders of this device at a significant discount vs. the smaller-screened iPhone, such that they are dismissing the most obvious way to get the low pricing (and still pay Apple what they really want in TOTAL for this device)... the option for someone else (AT&T, Verizon, Tmobile, etc) to chip in a good chunk of Apple's total price.

If 10.1" is it, it collides with the choice of "take the laptop or take the tablet?". It seems much less likely that someone will throw BOTH into the bag, if they don't want to carry 2 bigger screens when either one can do most of the jobs. In my imagination- even if it is really a "wow"ing device- unless I can do the work I do on it just about as efficiently as what I do on the laptop, I take the laptop and leave the Tablet at home (or don't buy the Tablet at all). If I have to also pack a- say- bluetooth keyboard with the Tablet to approximate that popular mode of getting work done (producing content), then it's not as "thin and light, etc" when all the pieces have to be included in the bag (why not take the probably more compact laptop?).

Do I think 10.1" would be great for content consumers? Absolutely. Bigger is definitely better for consuming a movie, TV show, reading print media gone digital, etc. I just find it harder to imagine the broad market appeal of buying a Tablet if the vast majority of benefits can be realized on other iTunes-connected equipment we might already have... certainly not like the obvious market demand ahead of an iPod and iPhone. Maybe all this wonderful new content will be exclusively available to the Tablet owners, which then would be another tangible reason to need/want a Tablet and potentially justify why you might want to throw both it and a Laptop in the bag. But that would then come with its own headaches for Apple, and all these new content producers would seem to want to be able to sell all this new content to the millions of iTunes users already in place, not just the Tablet buyers to come.

To each his own- as it should be. I'm still hunting for a great answer to the thread's original question, qualified by a best guess at price for whatever the Tablet imagined will cost. The best I've seen that does both in more than a 1000 posts is Rocketman's post several pages back. It basically makes the Tablet very appealing by using the razor blade model: give the shaver (Tablet) away and make all the money on the blades (content/connection). I do believe THAT would "sell" a LOT of Tablets even with the issues I've pointed out above.
 
The 1000 USD price does look more and more unrealistic:

Freescale has now announced its tablet reference design for 199USD. So basically we can expect a lot of OEM stuff in the price range of around 200-500USD depending on what these OEMs will actually add to the design.

At 1000USD the iSlate would be between 2-5 times more expensive. So I expect the iSlate to be much cheaper.
 
The 1000 USD price does look more and more unrealistic:

Freescale has now announced its tablet reference design for 199USD. So basically we can expect a lot of OEM stuff in the price range of around 200-500USD depending on what these OEMs will actually add to the design.

At 1000USD the iSlate would be between 2-5 times more expensive. So I expect the iSlate to be much cheaper.

I want to agree with you except...
What can you buy a laptop for? What can you buy an Apple laptop for? Compare the prices in terms of that range.

What can you buy a desktop computer for? What can you buy an Apple desktop computer for? Compare the prices in terms of that range.

What can you buy a portable music player for? What can you buy a comparable iPod player for? Compare the prices in terms of that range.

See the pattern here?

On the flip side though, of course a "tablet" product can be made and sold for a few hundred dollars. One tablet like one laptop or desktop does not necessarily deliver the same benefits and usefulness as another. My guess sticks at about $799. but I can also imagine $999 easier then I can imagine $599 for this product (unsubsidized) from Apple.

And this is CES week... you're going to see a lot of seemingly "wow" products (including a lot of new Tablets) trying to out-Apple Apple for prices way below what we think Apple will charge. That's how it is every year.
 
The 1000 USD price does look more and more unrealistic:

Freescale has now announced its tablet reference design for 199USD. So basically we can expect a lot of OEM stuff in the price range of around 200-500USD depending on what these OEMs will actually add to the design.

At 1000USD the iSlate would be between 2-5 times more expensive. So I expect the iSlate to be much cheaper.
I think we need to make a distinction here...

Developing an inexpensive tablet around Linux (as in the device you referenced) or Windows can be done without breaking a sweat. That said, it is important to remember that these OS's are not touch-based. They were made for mouse and keyboard input therefor they are self-limiting in terms of a tablet application. Furthermore, devices like the Kindle are made for a single specific purpose and have limited functionality beyond said purpose.

This is where the Apple <insert whatever you want to call it> will be light-years ahead of the competition. Capesh?
 
I would love a 9" or 10" tablet running the iPhone OS or Android, that is capable of doing what I do now on those two platforms. That includes watching movies, looking at documents, e-mail, internet, SSH/RDP/VNC (actually very handy when the app is done well), and book reading.

For $500 (maybe even $600) this is worth it to me. For $1000, that's just too much money.

I think we need to make a distinction here...

Developing an inexpensive tablet around Linux (as in the device you referenced) or Windows can be done without breaking a sweat. That said, it is important to remember that these OS's are not touch-based. They were made for mouse and keyboard input therefor they are self-limiting in terms of a tablet application. Furthermore, devices like the Kindle are made for a single specific purpose and have limited functionality beyond said purpose.

This is where the Apple <insert whatever you want to call it> will be light-years ahead of the competition. Capesh?

Having just played with a Motion Computing tablet running Windows 7, I agree with you. While they've made improvements as far as how a tablet interface works with the OS, I still don't like using an OS designed for keyboard and mouse with a finger and/or stylus. It's cumbersome.
 
THe same question seems to keep coming up despite the reasonable answers that have been posted. I can think of TONS of uses for the tablet. Video (cable tv and movies), audio, video conferencing, note taking, reading, textbooks, kitchen type device (menus), scheduling, web surfing, dictation, modest typing, spreadsheet use (not creation), DJ'ing and many others that will be created through the App store.

Just because it cant do every little thing perfectly does not make it worthless. I dont like laptops for creating excel models, but I own two of them. I dont think most laptop owners do much content creating on the go. I mostly use my laptop for web surfing and email. I type the occaisional document and rarely create spreadsheets on it. I use a desktop for that. Most on this site may be professionals who use their laptops for all kinds of content creation, I think websurfing, email, audio and video are about it for the average Jane/Joe.

I prefer surfing the web on my iphone by far because the touch UI is just flat out superior. I often go back to my laptop however when the screen size is just to small to deal with. Now there is a need in there somewhere. I think its an apple tablet.
 
I think we need to make a distinction here...

Developing an inexpensive tablet around Linux (as in the device you referenced) or Windows can be done without breaking a sweat. That said, it is important to remember that these OS's are not touch-based. They were made for mouse and keyboard input therefor they are self-limiting in terms of a tablet application. .

I think we need to make a distinction with what is reality and the above.
Android is Linux based and has a touch based graphical user interface GUI layered on top (multitouch even). Android is, in part, a new name for Linux distribution. OS are not touch, mouse, or key based. The GUI libraries layered on top are. Windows and Linux are widely deployed with touch based GUIs out in the field. ( Windows a bit more tightly bundled so get large amount of desktop oriented widgets and control mechanisms that come along for the ride. )

The software isn't the huge (2x , 3x ) cost differentiator. A better LCD panel, more accurate touch mechanism , CPU/GPU/Memory choices , amount of flash memory installed, number and quality of radios inserted , etc. (i.e., the kinds and quantity of hardware incorporated ) will has as much an impact on price as the software will.

The mechanisms are present on all of these systems. The fit/finish/polish is different but that is more and more a question of style over substance.
 
i don't really think it'll be a portable computer, because laptops fill that role fine. i think it'll be something along the lines of a workspace enhancement. it pairs up with any apple computer via some type of connection, and you can slide documents, images, and whatever else onto the table. everything can be manipulated on the tablet, then sent back seamlessly to the actual computer. i really don't expect people to walk around with it, because its probably more convenient with a netbook or laptop.
 
If 10.1" is it, it collides with the choice of "take the laptop or take the tablet?". It seems much less likely that someone will throw BOTH into the bag, if they don't want to carry 2 bigger screens when either one can do most of the jobs.
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To each his own- as it should be. I'm still hunting for a great answer to the thread's original question, qualified by a best guess at price for whatever the Tablet imagined will cost.

What is the real difference between the "laptop or the tablet" question and the question between buying a MacBook , MacBookAir, MacBookPro 13 , MacbookPro 15 , MacbookPro 17 ? Or even just the MacBook vs. MacBookAir ?

It is relatively easy once you incorporate individual budget constraints and match each tools ability to do the bulk of the work intended for the computer.

The major difference would be buying or not (depending upon what your mobile compute platform currently is) a new set of software you need to get what you need done.

For example for someone with a fixed budget of $1499 for hardware and content. That will buy (excluding taxes) :

1 MacBook Air.
1 MacBookPro 13 with $300 left over for content subscriptions.
1 MacBook with $500 left over for content

Lets say the Slate costs $799 or $899 (with no subsidized payment plan)
That would leave you a $700-$600 content budget. Or a $500 content budget and $100-200 of extra money in your pocket.

If getting the content ( rather than just propping the hardware on the table and oggling it as a museum piece ) is the value primary proposition what device allows you to buy the most for that budget ?

For those with a $2000 budget they may make different choices. There is no "conflict" there. Others may have needs for multiple sockets on their device for extensive connectivity while mobile. Others may need more complicated content creation software while out and mobile. In contrast, there are others who primarily consume with pretty lightweight creation needs ( type short email reply , take notes , ...... something that isn't writing 'War and Peace' length stuff , studio editing , etc. )

The reoccurring flaw here is the whole ( I have this problem so there it has to maximally fit my needs. ) Wrong perspective. The question what problems do some large group of people have with a certain set of constraints (costs, etc.) that can be solved by some system.

The closer the Slate/tablet is priced to the MacBook the less there is a market segmentation effect. If there is a $200 gap that is likely significant enough. Likely with some misdirection on costs, they can make that bigger by selling them with Wireless data subsidized pricing. Total system cost higher but the initial barrier is lower. So a $400-500 Slate.


No need to exlusive tie content to Tablet. Either by size of screen ( vs. iPhone/Touch) or by price ( vs. laptops) you can get significant market segmentation. Only the gadget junkies who "have to" buy one of each single Apple product are going to be conflicted.




P.S. the razor / razor blade thing is seriously flawed. iTunes sold more music than the alternative distribution because it was cheaper than buying CDs. If content providers are looking to keep the prices for subscribing high while radically reducing the cost of distribution and just pocketing all of that profitability for themselves.... that's doomed.
If people in general have stopped buying your stuff, generally you need to lower your costs ( unless just want to just cater to folks who have more money to blow. )

Apple made lots of money by selling razors for a profit and keeping the costs of razor blade more cost competitive than other alternatives. No reason why that won't work here to. The wireless subscription is a why to present the illusion of "lower cost" while not selling the razors below costs.
There are numerous alternatives to get content from ( paper books, cable TV, etc. ) Can't patent protect the razor blades so that Apple is only the single source.
 
Not trying to offend here, but the same answers keep coming up too, ignoring the existing iTunes connected device issue. For example, I have an Apple laptop. It can do video, audio, video conferencing, note taking, reading, textbooks, scheduling, web surfing, dictation, DJ'ing.

And it could do spreadsheet use AND creation, with full-on typing not modest. It seems reasonable to assume it has more horsepower, so a number of these things (DJ'ing, movies) should work better on the laptop, not to mention getting to enjoy them on an even BIGGER screen.

I can picture a kitchen menu being more "normal" on a Tablet than on a laptop (though it would work there), but I can't picture any but the most elite restaurants passing around expensive Tablets that might walk out the door.

I too can imagine THOUSANDS of other things a Tablet can do. But if the iPhone, Touch and/or a laptop can also do them, am I wanting to spend (my guess) $799 to be able to do them ALSO on this other device?

THe same question seems to keep coming up despite the reasonable answers that have been posted. I can think of TONS of uses for the tablet. Video (cable tv and movies), audio, video conferencing, note taking, reading, textbooks, kitchen type device (menus), scheduling, web surfing, dictation, modest typing, spreadsheet use (not creation), DJ'ing and many others that will be created through the App store.

Just because it cant do every little thing perfectly does not make it worthless.

And it's not perceived to be worthless at all- just harder to perceive the value toward the prices that have been rumored... EXCEPT for the people that don't have iPhones/Touch and/or laptops and thus would NOT have an existing way to eat that same content.

I'm very interested in it, but I'm looking for the reason(s) why many will want to actually BUY it... especially if they already have a way to enjoy this wonderous new iTunes content to come. And while it's easy to make up a lot of nichey reasons (sometimes via required add-ons), that's not really aiming it at the mass market (where we seem to generally expect Apple to sell tons of units). Isn't the working projection 10M Tablets in the first year?
 
I'm very interested in it, but I'm looking for the reason(s) why many will want to actually BUY it... especially if they already have a way to enjoy this wonderous new iTunes content to come. And while it's easy to make up a lot of nichey reasons (sometimes via required add-ons), that's not really aiming it at the mass market (where we seem to generally expect Apple to sell tons of units). Isn't the working projection 10M Tablets in the first year?

Did you ever consider that if you have to search so long and hard for the reasons to buy the Tablet.. perhaps you simply don't need it and shouldn't buy it?

As you can see from my sig - I own many different Apple products.. But never once I had to soul search and dig for reasons and justification of owning a particular piece of technology. When iPhone came out - it was a no brainer.. I always craved for an elegant smartphone that can get me onto Internet and integrate with my iTunes content. When Air came out - I always wanted a full powerful ultralight laptop, that wasn't a crappy Windows netbook. Etc etc.

With this Tablet.. people keep digging and searching for some magic use case.. as if Apple is going to pull some miracle out of their bag on Jan 27, which will open all of our eyes to some need we previously weren't aware of, and were unable to satisfy with out existing tools.

But the answer is much less mysterious I am afraid.. If you already have a Smartphone and a light notebook - the Tablet (while it may be coolest piece of gadgetry on earth) is really not necessary.. and it won't solve any particular problem in your life.
 
It is relatively easy once you incorporate individual budget constraints and match each tools ability to do the bulk of the work intended for the computer. The major difference would be buying or not (depending upon what your mobile compute platform currently is) a new set of software you need to get what you need done.

OK, so there's a very tangible, logical view of why the Tablet: the market that doesn't already have iTunes-connected devices who via budget constraints want a lot of that kind of capability. That’s a good one.

Of course, then one might point that group to the market against which this Tablet is intended to answer: the netbook market, which is also readily connected to iTunes, and should be able to eat this new content quite well, while preserving some of the laptop argument benefits too. And, if cost is a big driver, the netbooks will cost a lot less, freeing up even more money for that needed software budget.

P.S. the razor / razor blade thing is seriously flawed. iTunes sold more music than the alternative distribution because it was cheaper than buying CDs.

That may seem true, but it's generally not true. Shop around the internet and you can often legitimately find the CD for less than the album on iTunes. And you can often legitimately find the single for less than the single on iTunes too.

What about movies vs. DVD versions? What about TV shows vs. DVD versions? That a more often than not (favoring the physical media).

I don't see this print media going digital and being heavily discounted unless the producers of that media believes they can be more profitable on higher volume than they can on quality of each sale. Things as they are, they've already played the volume game by cutting their prices to the bone. They don't need lower revenues... they need more revenues. It's possible to get that with higher volume, but it seems unlikely they'll want to gamble on that given the constraints as they are. More simply, I expect pricing more like DVD and TV shows to DVD media rather than the perception that iTunes is cheaper than CD media.

If content providers are looking to keep the prices for subscribing high while radically reducing the cost of distribution and just pocketing all of that profitability for themselves.... that's doomed

But that is exactly what existing media for sale in iTunes is disproving... that they can make more money by selling it at about the same- or even higher- prices in iTunes, than the physical media version. It's the convenience that makes the "ripoff" (vs. the physical media option) yield the higher profitability.

Apple made lots of money by selling razors for a profit and keeping the costs of razor blade more cost competitive than other alternatives.

I partially agree. Apple does like to sell- not give away- their razors, and I expect them to do the same here. In order to "sell" a lot of Tablets, I appreciate the razor blade model as a way to do that. Price this razor at $799 or $1000 and I have a much harder time seeing it sell well.

As to Apple keeping the costs of the razor blades more cost competitive, that's definitely not the case. Sure you can find select examples where something in the iTunes store is cheaper than other legitimate options. But for every one of those, I bet there are 5 where you get a more competitive buy elsewhere.

Besides, it's not Apple's content to price, even though they succeeded with music in dictating that all songs- regardless of quality, popularity, etc- should be 99 cents. While that made a for a simple, even appealing model for the end user, I can easily argue that the owners of the content should have dominant say in the pricing of their content. When a #1 song is priced the same as the worst song ever recorded, there is something definitely wrong with that system... even if we consumers like our singles at 99 cents (or 88 cents)

Can't patent protect the razor blades so that Apple is only the single source.

I fully agree. So as you point out, if the new content is NOT exclusive to the Tablet, and the market that already has other iTunes-connected devices is probably not the market for this Tablet, you wipe out 2 very tangible reasons for potentially buying one (from my point of view). The market you identify as real- the people with limited funds who do not yet have an iTunes connected device like a laptop makes perfect sense... but I fear that scenario will be looking at a nice netbook instead of the Tablet, and the bigger software budget that would come from the savings.

That sends us back to much more ambiguous reasons involving phrases like new paradigms, completely new ways of using computing devices, or Star Trek 23rd century technologies delivered in 2010. Great if that's what arrives. I look forward to it.
 
Not trying to offend here, but the same answers keep coming up too, ignoring the existing iTunes connected device issue. For example, I have an Apple laptop. It can do video, audio, video conferencing, note taking, reading, textbooks, scheduling, web surfing, dictation, DJ'ing.

And it could do spreadsheet use AND creation, with full-on typing not modest. It seems reasonable to assume it has more horsepower, so a number of these things (DJ'ing, movies) should work better on the laptop, not to mention getting to enjoy them on an even BIGGER screen.

I can picture a kitchen menu being more "normal" on a Tablet than on a laptop (though it would work there), but I can't picture any but the most elite restaurants passing around expensive Tablets that might walk out the door.

I too can imagine THOUSANDS of other things a Tablet can do. But if the iPhone, Touch and/or a laptop can also do them, am I wanting to spend (my guess) $799 to be able to do them ALSO on this other device?



And it's not perceived to be worthless at all- just harder to perceive the value toward the prices that have been rumored... EXCEPT for the people that don't have iPhones/Touch and/or laptops and thus would NOT have an existing way to eat that same content.

I'm very interested in it, but I'm looking for the reason(s) why many will want to actually BUY it... especially if they already have a way to enjoy this wonderous new iTunes content to come. And while it's easy to make up a lot of nichey reasons (sometimes via required add-ons), that's not really aiming it at the mass market (where we seem to generally expect Apple to sell tons of units). Isn't the working projection 10M Tablets in the first year?

I agree that all of this boils down to price. If the price is right these fly off the shelves. If the price is too high, the demand may still be there, but some just wont be able to afford which is where your "nichey" comment comes in. I think, however, that a tablet is the perfect computer for those who really only use their computers for media consumption, email and web surfing. If Apple finds a way to get advertisers, magazine companies, television companies and/or mobile telephone providers to subsidize the cost of this thing (I think Rocketman said this too as well as others) then maybe the price can come way down in return for a long term subscription. I would give apple $100 a month to replace my cable, provide unlimited magazine subscriptions, cover my wireless access, etc. With a loarge enough installed base I think that model could work. TV, magazines and wireless acess all rolled into one bill.

Add in different plans for different users like a cable/web/text book/iwork package for students or a cable/web/iwork/magazine for professionals.

Ultimately, I think apple needs to find a way to purchase a wireless company. If they controlled both distribution and access to content they would really be in a strong position. I mean right now they control the delivery trucks with itunes, but not the gasoline that allows them to move. The latter is where the real power is (pardon the pun).
 
Did you ever consider that if you have to search so long and hard for the reasons to buy the Tablet.. perhaps you simply don't need it and shouldn't buy it?

As you can see from my sig - I own many different Apple products.. But never once I had to soul search and dig for reasons and justification of owning a particular piece of technology. When iPhone came out - it was a no brainer.. I always craved for an elegant smartphone that can get me onto Internet and integrate with my iTunes content. When Air came out - I always wanted a full powerful ultralight laptop, that wasn't a crappy Windows netbook. Etc etc.

With this Tablet.. people keep digging and searching for some magic use case.. as if Apple is going to pull some miracle out of their bag on Jan 27, which will open all of our eyes to some need we previously weren't aware of, and were unable to satisfy with out existing tools.

But the answer is much less mysterious I am afraid.. If you already have a Smartphone and a light notebook - the Tablet (while it may be coolest piece of gadgetry on earth) is really not necessary.. and it won't solve any particular problem in your life.

hitekalex, you've said in 4 little paragraphs what I've wasted dozens of paragraphs trying to say. That is unfortunately where I find myself, and I too am a big Apple fan with a lot of Apple products. This one does seem different than iPod & iPhone launches, in that it appears Apple has to both deliver a device and fully create the market for it at the same time. Delivering the device will be no problem. Creating a big market is always fraught with tremendous challenges.
 
I'm not searching long and hard for reasons to buy a tablet. I'm just afraid that Apple isn't going to deliver the tablet I'm interested in.
 
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