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What is up with these spelling and grammer junkies
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i know my post's are legable, and thats why people on other forums dont have a problem with the way i spell or my grammer none has complained yet. yea i know my spelling and grammer is not perfict but people can at least make out what i am saying. im not perfict this is who i am, and i cant blame people for dissing me cause of it.
i also have a problem of putting thought down to paper or typing on a forum.yea i am SLD but i have computer smarts hell i can build a pc and diagnose problems when it has them i learned myself how to do all this stuff besides the mac stuff im still learning. but that still dont give a person any reason to say the same thing if it has already been pointed out to the orignal poster by the first reply post about the mistakes. crap lost myself there even
i dont like to have it shoved in my face. hell does anyone like to have thair error's shoved in thair face over and over and over again by everyone that looks at the post. i dont mind the first reply pointing out my error's but after that it just starts to piss me off. even in some one elses post when i see people posting B.S. other than trying to meat the guy half way and read and helping with the question.
yea i guess every one can call me a dick with a attitude that can't spell. im am just trying to see the reason why people here on this forum would rather point out error's in someones post then try to meat the guy half way and read the post and help with the person's question.
i also have a problem of putting thought down to paper or typing on a forum.yea i am SLD but i have computer smarts hell i can build a pc and diagnose problems when it has them i learned myself how to do all this stuff besides the mac stuff im still learning. but that still dont give a person any reason to say the same thing if it has already been pointed out to the orignal poster by the first reply post about the mistakes. crap lost myself there even
i dont like to have it shoved in my face. hell does anyone like to have thair error's shoved in thair face over and over and over again by everyone that looks at the post. i dont mind the first reply pointing out my error's but after that it just starts to piss me off. even in some one elses post when i see people posting B.S. other than trying to meat the guy half way and read and helping with the question.
yea i guess every one can call me a dick with a attitude that can't spell. im am just trying to see the reason why people here on this forum would rather point out error's in someones post then try to meat the guy half way and read the post and help with the person's question.
I see what you mean. Again, as long as I understand, I don't really mind all that much (I still do care somewhat, if its all wrong it gives me the impression that that person doesn't care all that much about their issue). I do suggest though, as you seem to be annoyed about the repeated complaints, is that after it has been pointed out once (As you claim not to mind the first complaint), it would be a good idea to correct your post after it has been pointed out once? 
EDIT: And I don't think you're a dick.
EDIT: And I don't think you're a dick.
madmax_2069 said:
Why keep raising the point? You've already been told that you're welcome to report anyone after the first post. In the meantime, those who can be bothered deciphering will do so and try to help. Those who can't be bothered won't. Remember that the support given in here is voluntary; the easier it is for people to understand the problem, the more people you will have available to answer the question.
You may think that your post is easy to read but then again you know what you're trying to say. For others, they have to figure out which word you meant to spell and figure out what punctuation you meant to use. That means for those 'skim' readers which is how many regulars read, it takes longer to read your posts so many won't bother or will ask for clarification in the form of asking you to take more time to check your posts.
This thread hasn't run its course yet?
Here's a quick checklist for those who are struggling to play along on MR:
- Check/search to see if there is already a thread about your subject before you start a new one
- Proof read the thread title before you post, 'cause you can't change it
- Don't use all caps, it is almost universally considered annoying
- It's iPod, iMac, iTunes, etc. not Ipod, Imac and so on
- It's Mac, not MAC
- One exclamation point is sufficient to add emphasis!
- If you already know you can't spell, for the love of God, use a spell checker
- Always ask yourself, "do I really want to post this?"
- Use the "Preview Post" button to see if you entered your code for bold, italics and "quote" correctly
- Use the 'Report Post' button if you have a problem
Everybody makes mistakes, but proofing/editing your post(s) shows respect to others, and presents yourself in the most favorable light. Trying to read an incoherent post can be a real credibility crusher, not to mention a pain and drain on the brain.
* BTW, this issue is clearly different than the "English is not my first language" issue, which is separate and understood by most MR members.
Woof, Woof Dawg
Here's a quick checklist for those who are struggling to play along on MR:
- Check/search to see if there is already a thread about your subject before you start a new one
- Proof read the thread title before you post, 'cause you can't change it
- Don't use all caps, it is almost universally considered annoying
- It's iPod, iMac, iTunes, etc. not Ipod, Imac and so on
- It's Mac, not MAC
- One exclamation point is sufficient to add emphasis!
- If you already know you can't spell, for the love of God, use a spell checker
- Always ask yourself, "do I really want to post this?"
- Use the "Preview Post" button to see if you entered your code for bold, italics and "quote" correctly
- Use the 'Report Post' button if you have a problem
Everybody makes mistakes, but proofing/editing your post(s) shows respect to others, and presents yourself in the most favorable light. Trying to read an incoherent post can be a real credibility crusher, not to mention a pain and drain on the brain.
* BTW, this issue is clearly different than the "English is not my first language" issue, which is separate and understood by most MR members.
Woof, Woof Dawg
This is also a little looser than lawyers writing contracts or delivering papers to the courthouse, where even minor spelling mistakes, grammar errors, and missing punctuation can get you clubbed to death quicker than a baby seal by your client.
However ... skipping any and all punctuation, not using the shift key and/or return key here -- does put you into the baby seal category.
However ... skipping any and all punctuation, not using the shift key and/or return key here -- does put you into the baby seal category.
Here's the deal:
If you make a couple of typos, or spell one thing wrong, rarely will anyone get on you about it on this board, unless you are trying to sound like an unsufferable know it all, at which time it will most likely be used as a weapon against you.
This is a place where people communicate. In order to communicate, we need to be able to understand you. LOL speak is not a language, English is.
What the eff is plz? Is that a word? Are you too freaking lazy to just type out please?
Most of the Norwegians, Germand and Spanish speaking folks (as a native language) speak and write better English than some of you teenage and twenty-something brats.
Quit begging for a built in spell checker and learn to use the language. Geebus.
If you make a couple of typos, or spell one thing wrong, rarely will anyone get on you about it on this board, unless you are trying to sound like an unsufferable know it all, at which time it will most likely be used as a weapon against you.
This is a place where people communicate. In order to communicate, we need to be able to understand you. LOL speak is not a language, English is.
What the eff is plz? Is that a word? Are you too freaking lazy to just type out please?
Most of the Norwegians, Germand and Spanish speaking folks (as a native language) speak and write better English than some of you teenage and twenty-something brats.
Quit begging for a built in spell checker and learn to use the language. Geebus.
Perhaps they're not complaining, but rather they're attempting to help you understand how difficult your posts can be. If I can't understand your request, I'm not very likely to be able to help.madmax_2069 said:
Example:
I have no idea what you're saying here. The fact that the way it's written makes it difficult to understand restricts my ability to provide service. Are you looking at a way to spell check in Safari? Do you need a spell check for Windows? A stand-alone tool that will spell check from which you can subsequently copy the text into your browser?
You may not have received any help because people didn't know what you were asking. The sentence could be improved very simply by adding some punctuation and thought, perhaps even something like:
"Since safari is running on my test mac, which isn't connected to the internet, I need a spell checker for windows. A plug-in or something for ie or firefox would be cool, but if its a standalone app I use and then copy from, thats ok too."
Spelling and grammar aren't perfect, but it's readable and gets the point across.
Baa. I fail to see how someone can't learn basic spelling and grammar in 12 years of primary school. What some people type is the equivalent of talking with food in their mouths. If someone refuses to chew and then speak, I am going to call them an idiot. Depending on my mood, I might call them lazy also.
I actually agree with the original poster, internet junkies do get pedantic about spelling, it is quite tiresome sometimes. If we happened to be on 'www.spellingandgrammarsnobs.com/analists' then i would understand the need to make others aware of their mistakes. This is just aimed at making others look small, there is not real difficulty in reading most of the posts here, they are certainly not illegible.
I think most of the remarks are made to belittle people, you see it happening in other ways also. "your post is stupid because" or "your opinion is wrong". I think some find i hard to coexist with others without picking a fight or trying to make others look stupid (taking the limelight away from themselves perhaps).
I think most of the remarks are made to belittle people, you see it happening in other ways also. "your post is stupid because" or "your opinion is wrong". I think some find i hard to coexist with others without picking a fight or trying to make others look stupid (taking the limelight away from themselves perhaps).
BakedBeans said:
I don't think that most get concerned over the simple mistakes and typos that are inherent in all posts, and nobody wants to get "graded" here. However, there are a few posters that are at times unintelligible and defensive about it and that creates an issue.
Their attempts to shine the spotlight on nit picking falls on deaf ears in my opinion, because most here can separate the two quite easily.
Woof, Woof Dawg
MacDawg said:
Can you point me toward a post that is unreadable? seriously, i would like to see one as I've never crosse a post i cannot read without fuss.
One thing that i don't like much is long posts with one sentence, a 24139 word sentence IS a bit difficult to read at times.
blaskillet4 said:
No, possibly not, but at this point I think he's just yanking our, um, chains. By now it should be clear that he can't legitimately claim to be messing up simply because he's "not very good a grammar and spelling." Why? Because even after being busted repeatedly by the grammar cops he persists in using the lower case for the personal pronoun. This is either laziness in the extreme (could a little shift key exercise really hurt so much?), or a deliberate effort to annoy people who are annoyed by such things.
bousozoku said:
"Try not. Do or do not, there is no try." --Yoda
That is the correct quote...
Legible is a variable term. You think your posts are legible based on other people's responses... but that does not mean your posts are 'legible', just 'readable'.madmax_2069 said:
Readability is important and so is having legible writings. But I can have very readable writings, but nobody can understand it. Or, I can have readings that are easy to understand, but are nearly impossible to read.
It takes two, as they say.
madmax_2069 said:
Why did you start the thread if you don't like having it shoved in your face?
Here's a great solution for cutting down the people that get mad at you:
1. Use sentences with commas, periods, and if you really want to, semi-colons.
2. Capitalize the first letter of the sentence and proper nouns. OS X is not os x. Apple uses OS X, OS 10.4, etc. so it is hard to go wrong with the name of something. But os x is incorrect any way you slice it.
3. If you know a word is misspelled, change it and learn the spelling. If you accidently mess up, big deal. But intentionally not looking up words means you aren't trying to help us help you.
I have OCD. Spelling is a big deal for me. Grammar is too, but less so. I don't expect nor care if you write at the same level as I do. I do expect that when I try to help someone, I can easily understand the problem and then ask for clarification if needed or just solve the problem.
Alright?madmax_2069 said:
I probably shouldn't post right now because my sympathy for you is at an all time low. You've become rather whiny about something that isn't really that big of a deal.
Before I get myself in trouble, I'll just say that I like what iGary said... Learn to use the language.
The fact is that you do a somewhat poor job of constructing a legible paragraph. No one is perfect, but it just seems to be that you would rather everyone get off your back (in other words, stop trying to help) when the real solution involves you maybe setting aside some time each week to read an English book. Learn the skills that you need to correct this problem you seem to have and you will be glad you did.
P.S. No one hates you. Although I do hate when people get all huffy-puffy and think that everyone hates them, so your not making things any better, IMO.
IJ Reilly said:
This is the type of thing I was talking about. Why would people worry if people put I or i? It isn't lazy because it isn't important on a forum like this. It's petty and pedantic.
If this is your biggest gripe then I want your life, if things like that really matter to you then you need to get out more (or maybe praise the lord for giving you such a trouble free life perhaps?).
Mechcozmo said:
Then maybe you should look at your own problem before worrying about something as unimportant as a capital letter at the beginning of a sentence.
Get a grip. Some people don't care about small insignificances like that, they simply want to get their message across.
madmax_2069 said:
I used to live in Ohio and knew a bunch of guys who were in LD classes. It's unfortunate, but the school system was wrong--they weren't learning-disabled--the teachers were teaching-disabled. The problem is that the teachers didn't understand them and so, if they didn't understand, the students must be stupid. Give yourself credit. It's unlikely that you're learning-disabled. It's more likely that you've had poor teachers and you've gotten used to doing the least work--we want more from you.
These other forums you mention, do they have adults and if so, do you interact with them in the same way? I've found that teens talk amongst themselves the same, poor way but can't understand correct English.
bousozoku said:
hey whats that supposed to mean i live in ohio and i;m not lurning dilsbeled...
It's funny, when I read I hear the text in my head. A post full of mangled language sounds like somebody babbling in my head and I skip the post to shut up the babbling voice.
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