What keeps Leopard from being torrented?

[zioxide]

By the way, that video is FLASH and I think they are very good for flash video. I don't know why Janey has to trash my videography as well. If you took the time to watch it for more than a minute you would see it is quite good.

I don't really want to get off topic or trash your work, but the compression method of the video has nothing to do with the skill of the videographer.

Additionally, I saw the videos and they were a bit overexposed, very shakey, had some pretty amateur zooms and quick pans, and had some shots that suffered from bad composition. If you were to use a tripod, you would most definitely be able to have more stable footage.

/me bed.

 

[md63]

Perhaps your right ... but MS is a POS and is terribly expensive has 0 features except free viruses! As for music, the musicians make what 15 cents a song, MAYBE !!! and sony and the other musician labor companies make the bulk, id be happy to pay the musicians 10 15 hell 50 cents maybe even a buck!!!

If MS is too expense and doesn't work for you then don't buy it. Apple users shouldn't be stealing from some companies and then criticizing others who steal from Apple.

 

[Multimedia]

The Situation Made Smooth Pans Difficult. That Was On A Tripod.

I don't really want to get off topic or trash your work, but the compression method of the video has nothing to do with the skill of the videographer.

Additionally, I saw the videos and they were a bit overexposed, very shakey, had some pretty amateur zooms and quick pans, and had some shots that suffered from bad composition. If you were to use a tripod, you would most definitely be able to have more stable footage.

I used a tripod. But the situation made smooth pans difficult due to chairs all around me. The lighting conditions were horrible. If you don't like it was not like NBC, I wasn't being paid either.

Everyone's a critic. But the information is there and legible.

 

[janey]

What has being able to afford the new 8 core Mac Pro got to do with this subject either? Because of that I am a bad person? I don't get it.

I'm saying you're acting like this really isn't a big deal except it sort of is to the average student who more likely than not can't afford an 8 core Mac Pro, so how would you get the issue to begin with? And to a lot of students who are going to have more trouble than usual buying an upgrade this time around - either that they have to go to another campus that might sell it to them or by coughing up the extra $50 to buy it online...it's a surprising and rather annoying change. But hey, it doesn't apply to you. But you were the one who originally stated this:

Honesty. Most Mac Users are honest and the price is so low why would you want to steal it anyway?

And if you're offended, feel free to report my posts. If a mod doesn't remove them or can't be arsed to, I'd be glad to.

 

[72930]

I don't like your price so I'll just take the product? Its stealing.

I now use a free alternative, but at the time I couldn't afford the software and needed it. If it were shareware, I would have felt that my piracy was harming the developer, but as it was MS, who have screwed me on multiple occasions, I did not feel bad at all...

 

[janey]

I don't like your price so I'll just take the product? Its stealing.

Unlike Apple, Microsoft is rather generous to students and developers.

I get Windows XP and Vista for free, along with Office and Visual Studio through my school. I'm sure it's some secret scheme to get me to use Windows products later on, but I'm grateful that they're taking advantage of students being unable (too poor)/unwilling (but willing to pirate) to buy the regular priced copies of the same software by giving it to them for free/reduced cost through MSDNAA etc. It's fantastic. Only wish Apple would do the same.

 

[Multimedia]

I Hereby Offer To Find Everyone In Education A Place To Buy It For $69

I'm saying you're acting like this really isn't a big deal except it sort of is to the average student who more likely than not can't afford an 8 core Mac Pro, so how would you get the issue to begin with? And to a lot of students who are going to have more trouble than usual buying an upgrade this time around - either that they have to go to another campus that might sell it to them or by coughing up the extra $50 to buy it online...it's a surprising and rather annoying change. But hey, it doesn't apply to you. But you were the one who originally stated this:


And if you're offended, feel free to report my posts. If a mod doesn't remove them or can't be arsed to, I'd be glad to.

I'm not offended as much as I am bewildered by the hostility. It's like you're blaming me for the price.

Tell you what, I'll make an offer to anyone who is anywhere in USA that I can find them a place to buy it for $69. Just post your school and city and I will track down a school nearby or a mail order house that will sell it to you for $69. How's that for customer service?

Obviously everyone here is too busy bitching and moaning about the $116 Apple price to look around and figure out where it's only $69. So I'll do it for you all.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Yes, it is honesty based...better than piss off tons of customers with activation problems...

I think it also has to do with income streams. Apple income mostly comes off its hardware sells so OSX is icing on the cake. M$ income comes off of software sells only so they do need to protect it. Add in the fact that people have very little problems ripping off M$ compared to other companies it adds even move need to protect themselves.

I expect leopard to have a much larger % of pirated copies than any of the ones before hand due in large part to the 50% increase in the Edu price which clearly shows on this forum pissed a lot of people off. While yes some colleges will offer it for $69 relatively few colleges will be able to do that. I know my college does not offer that.

 

[NoOneButMe]

i have noticed in other threads that people keep repeatedly asking multimedia if he is a student. he has said he is a student. do i detect some ageism? because you can all see from his photo that he isn't in his teens or twenties? students can be any age.

No age bias. I respect people who go back to school for whatever reason. It's just that last time i asked Multimedia if he was a student, he ignored my question and insulted me via PM. I don't know if similar things happened, but he never posted a public response to the "Are you a student?" question up until now.

Oh and as for windows not innovating? MS might not but 3rd party developers do. There's some great games out there - You should try Portal, its quite good

 

[72930]

Unlike Apple, Microsoft is rather generous to students and developers.

I get Windows XP and Vista for free, along with Office and Visual Studio through my school. I'm sure it's some secret scheme to get me to use Windows products later on, but I'm grateful that they're taking advantage of students being unable (too poor)/unwilling (but willing to pirate) to buy the regular priced copies of the same software by giving it to them for free/reduced cost through MSDNAA etc. It's fantastic. Only wish Apple would do the same.

The school pays quite a bit for that subsidation...thats why its not the same price in all schools...

 

[janey]

I'm not offended as much as I am bewildered by the hostility. It's like you're blaming me for the price.

I'm not blaming you for the price. I just find it hard to believe that you'd understand why some people think a difference of $50 or trying to find a nearby campus store that will honor their student ID is that much.

The school pays quite a bit for that subsidation...thats why its not the same price in all schools...

I know that, but at least that option is there. It radically depends on the school..some charge fees, others provide everything free at no additional cost (e.g. included with fees in tuition). But at least it's there. And by that I mean the one flat rate Apple deal for $69 sort of sucks when you think about what kind of deals you can get otherwise.

 

[Multimedia]

My Occupation Is None Of Anyone Here's Business And Yours In None Of Mine

No age bias. I respect people who go back to school for whatever reason. It's just that last time i asked Multimedia if he was a student, he ignored my question and insulted me via PM. I don't know if similar things happened, but he never posted a public response to the "Are you a student?" question up until now.

Oh and as for windows not innovating? MS might not but 3rd party developers do. There's some great games out there - You should try Portal, its quite good

Since when do most of the contributers here give up their occupations. It is none of anyone's business if I am a student or anything else. I find the question offensive in the extreme.

 

[hotshotharry]

If MS is too expense and doesn't work for you then don't buy it. Apple users shouldn't be stealing from some companies and then criticizing others who steal from Apple.

HAHA I didnt !!!!

It came with the systems i bought. But thats what lead me to apple, I said self, If you ever have to buy software, please don't by MS windows, and at the time it was vista or switch to mac. Honestly i never realized the value of good software until i switched to apple. I have a problem with being forced to overpay for a product that isn't worth the disk its printed on. And as far as that go i believe MS owes about 45G in network support costs as well as the constant maintenance that was essential. If it were a car there would be a class action lawsuit for building such a monstrosity.

Oh and by the way I am free to criticize whomever i choose! especially when you don't share my views but thanks for your input mom

Now don't take that the wrong way, apple is far from perfect, but its the closest there is right now, and since ever thing is relative, i guess apple is relatively perfect.

 

[MadDoc]

I don't like your price so I'll just take the product? Its stealing.

Exactly my friend. Just because you don't agree with the price does not mean you have the right to steal it.

MadDoc

 

[janey]

Exactly my friend. Just because you don't agree with the price does not mean you have the right to steal it.

Not stopping any of us from bitching about it.

 

[tom5304]

I'd be willing to bet I could buy Leopard from 90% of college bookstores using my single Cal State University student ID. You see, I'd walk in like Multimedia would: polite and upbeat. Retail folks respond to polite and upbeat; I know, I'm one of them. Try it, it works!

 

[NoOneButMe]

Since when do most of the contributers here give up their occupations. It is none of anyone's business if I am a student or anything else. I find the question offensive in the extreme.

I just asked if you were a student or not. If you use edu discount and you're not a student it will change how i think of you compared to if you were a student. A simple, polite "Yes, I am a student" would have been sufficient enough to end most questions - mine at least. I cant control how you react to questions

 

[Multimedia]

I Assume Everyone Here Is Honest And Trustworthy Not Assume They Are Thieves

I just asked if you were a student or not. If you use edu discount and you're not a student it will change how i think of you compared to if you were a student. A simple, polite "Yes, I am a student" would have been sufficient enough to end most questions - mine at least. I cant control how you react to questions

Why should you assume I am NOT a student without me telling everyone? I assume the opposite - everyone here is honest and not a thief. I do not understand why anyone here needs to affirm their honesty. My being a student is none of your damn business. And I resent having to tell anyone I am.

 

[limecat]

Official Mac Rumors "What's Your Job" Thread

Since when do most of the contributers here give up their occupations.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/176054/ ?

 

[NoOneButMe]

Why should you assume I am NOT a student without me telling everyone? I assume the opposite - everyone here is honest and not a thief. I do not understand why anyone here needs to affirm their honesty. My being a student is none of your damn business. And I resent having to tell anyone I am.

Statistically, if you look at the bell curve, I'd be willing to bet that a large majority of the Americans (I dont know enough about foreign schools but i imagine it's the same as well) who are in college are between the age of 18 and 24. Why? Because most people graduate high school around the age of 17-18. And on the undergrad (or foreign equivalent) many College/University degrees are 4-6 year programs (Other then premed and law). So 18-24 is about right for college students.

Are there people that dont fall into this category of recent high school grads? Sure. But an overwhelming majority do.

 

[sananda]

Statistically, if you look at the bell curve, I'd be willing to bet that a large majority of the Americans (I dont know enough about foreign schools but i imagine it's the same as well) who are in college are between the age of 18 and 24. Why? Because most people graduate high school around the age of 17-18. And on the undergrad (or foreign equivalent) many College/University degrees are 4-6 year programs (Other then premed and law). So 18-24 is about right for college students.

Are there people that dont fall into this category of recent high school grads? Sure. But an overwhelming majority do.

and from that you think it's reasonable to assume that multimedia is not a student ? strange attitude.

and earlier you expressly stated "no age bias", which was clearly not true.

 

[dukebound85]

Yes of course. I do not see why I have to defend myself for being able to purchase Apple and Adobe software from other schools besides my own. What is everyone's deal with all the attacking and asking for people's occupations.

What has being able to afford the new 8 core Mac Pro got to do with this subject either? Because of that I am a bad person? I don't get it.

By the way, that video is FLASH and I think they are very good for flash video. I don't know why Janey has to trash my videography as well. If you took the time to watch it for more than a minute you would see it is quite good.

its just that your avatar has always thrown me. glad it works for you and hopefully will work for me too!

edit: relaized you dont have to be 18-23 to be a student lol

i have noticed in other threads that people keep repeatedly asking multimedia if he is a student. he has said he is a student. do i detect some ageism? because you can all see from his photo that he isn't in his teens or twenties? students can be any age.

sadly yes i tend to associate college with students just out of hs. nothing against those who come back as i will probably do so myself at somepoint. didnt mean to offend you at all multimedia if i in fact did so

 

[apfhex]

I support Apple and think they deserve the money, but my question is what keeps people from torrenting this?

I think you answered your own question. Sure, it still gets pirated though.

Activation doesn't stop Vista or any other MS product from being pirated. In fact it probably encourages some people.

 

[Sbrocket]

Students pay software fees which are included in the tuition and fees. That is why you get a discount on software in the school bookstores. Now how would you be able to get a discount at a school that you're not enrolled at? You're not paying them the fees.

Believe it or not, not all colleges and universities follow exactly the same fee schedule for their students. Nor do they all follow the same styles of student software licensing, laptop programs, etc etc. It all depends on what the college's CIO wants to do or the financial structure of the school.

Plus, the $69 price is not because the college is giving you a discount off the more expensive price that they pay Apple -- they get the copies of Leopard from Apple at a reduced price to sell to students. Campus stores always get special deals compared to what the "default" education discount is if you go to the retain Apple Store or look online at store.apple.com, you just have to check.

 

[CalBoy]

Why should you assume I am NOT a student without me telling everyone? I assume the opposite - everyone here is honest and not a thief. I do not understand why anyone here needs to affirm their honesty. My being a student is none of your damn business. And I resent having to tell anyone I am.

Don't worry about it Multimedia. Aside from a few rogues, most of us understand common decency.

Statistically, if you look at the bell curve, I'd be willing to bet that a large majority of the Americans (I dont know enough about foreign schools but i imagine it's the same as well) who are in college are between the age of 18 and 24. Why? Because most people graduate high school around the age of 17-18. And on the undergrad (or foreign equivalent) many College/University degrees are 4-6 year programs (Other then premed and law). So 18-24 is about right for college students.

Are there people that dont fall into this category of recent high school grads? Sure. But an overwhelming majority do.

What you're saying is true, but it doesn't change the fact that Multimedia is a student. It isn't unheard of for people to go back to school (I know several college students above the age of 30, and I'm one of the "majority").
If you heard a random claim like, "I can lift 20,000 lbs with one arm," then you'd have the right to be suspicious. Seeing as how Multimedia has been one of the site's most honored members, and seeing as how he's said in plain English that he uses his student discount, I have to ask you what kept you from believing that he is a student?

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Back to the OP, the primary thing which keeps anything from being stolen via software is the honesty and integrity of everyone. If you stay honest, then that's all you have to worry about.